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Weekly Poll: Wallpaper Moderation

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Weekly Poll: Wallpaper Moderation

Stirring the pot

https://www.wincustomize.com/webpoll.aspx
from WinCustomize Forums

One of the most controversial galleries on WinCustomize is, without a doubt, our wallpaper section.  In the past 90% of all work submitted was rejected out-right.  Now, more is let through, but still the vast majority is placed on a user's personal page instead of the main gallery.  This has met with mixed reactions from wallpaper artists and users alike.  Some do not like the relaxed requirements, claiming that it has ruined the quality of the gallery.  Others contend that we're being too restrictive and driving away wallpaper artists to other sites such as DeviantArt, Interfacelift etc.

So I thought this week we'd put it to an actual vote.  Let everyone voice their opinion on how they would like wallpaper moderation to be handled. 

At the moment, moderators look at a wallpaper submission, and decide whether it's personal-page-only, or main gallery material.  The general metric we use is if something would be rated a 5/10 or higher (or 2.5 stars), it's good enough for the main gallery, 4/10 and lower goes to the personal page.  We only reject broken submissions, submissions with bad preview images, or rips.

So, is our new policy to send some items to the personal page, and others to the main gallery a good one?  Is the 5/10 threshold an acceptable limit, or should it be raised or lowered?  Vote on the poll, and share your opinion in the comments below.

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Reply #76 from WinCustomize Forums Top

That doesn't fix the problem.  What if no one rates a skin, or not enough people?  What if someone has a bee up their bonnet and decides to rate everything a 1 and that is the tipping point?  What if you have a pack of friends running around rating all of your stuff a 10 when it's really a 2? (this happens)  It's too easy to game.

You still have the 100s of crap walls to sift through on the newest page before you get to a skin, cursor or icon.  Someone spams 40 terrible walls (it has happened many times in the past), the Newest Skins page has just been rendered useless for the majority of users for the next X number of minutes/hours/days until the timer runs out.

This is the balance that must be struck.  Wallpapers versus the rest of the content on the site.  The only way we can just let the wallpaper section go wild is to remove them from all mixed-library list pages (top, new, updated etc.) but that kills visibility of a wallpaper.

Reply #77 from WinCustomize Forums Top
It's not like the Mods are some faceless, soulless monsters that are just waiting to stamp out all creativity in would-be skinners. As long as the Mods are prepared to give a good reason for their rejections if asked, I stand by my vote to keep it best-of-the-best.
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #78 from WinCustomize Forums Top
It's not like the Mods are some faceless, soulless monsters that are just waiting to stamp out all creativity in would-be skinners
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What we all really look like:
                                      
Reply #79 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Three 'tiers'...or places accepted walls end up...

1.  PP...anything an uploader wants to upload...must be set by him to 'pp' is not search-linked publicly...only accessible via the pp.

2. General Public gallery... anything submitted that mods deem acceptable as a wall.  Must be submitted as 'non-pp'.  If deemed not quite good enough it goes to pp.  This section does not show up in 'New Uploads' but is accessible to all as being in Public Gallery [as they are now].

and

3. Moderator's pics....the select group, similar to how the 'heavy' moderation worked in the past....[best of the best -as deemed by the mods].  This bunch would show up in the Newest Uploads, along with the general skins, etc.

'3' would be critical opinion that some claim may be biased, but remember biased critical opinion is what made Picasso famous...I for one think most of his work is junk...;)

'2' means that perhaps more submissions would be easily/publicly accessible....

and

'1' means just about everything can be approved...provided it is wall-sized, non-porn, non-rip, etc....;)

Reply #80 from WinCustomize Forums Top
What we all really look like:
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Oh you do not.. :LOL: 





Your hair is much lighter ;) 
Reply #81 from WinCustomize Forums Top
What if no one rates a skin, or not enough people? What if someone has a bee up their bonnet and decides to rate everything a 1 and that is the tipping point? What if you have a pack of friends running around rating all of your stuff a 10 when it's really a 2? (this happens) It's too easy to game.
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ok, well now that you put it that way... i see your point.
It's not like the Mods are some faceless, soulless monsters that are just waiting to stamp out all creativity in would-be skinners
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true enough... i guess what i was aiming for is more community interaction. we had the vote of the top of the top for each catagory a few weeks back. I thought it was fun... it would be nice to see that being regular and really letting it show on the galleries. Amazingly enough, close to 40 and I still tend to be ignorant of the fact that morons do exist and hope to think people don't vote for the reason mentioned. so i change my vote to best of the best, but how about making the rejected easily accessible. (i.e. a seperate gallery per say). I myself might see something I like.
Reply #82 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think unmoderated would be a bad idea. But I do think I saw where someone mentioned earlier a second wallpaper gallery. Why not combine the two ideas and make a second wallpaper gallery for those wallpapers that in the current system would only go to the personal pages and then make it so that gallery is not included in the "Newest" and "Recently Updated" pages.

This way the people who dont want to wade through pages of "junk" wont be affected by it at all and those who are interested in checking out everything that is out there and want to form an opinion about it on their own are more easily able to do so without having to go through millions of personal pages.

And this will still let people know that their work, although good enough for themselves and maybe some others, is not quite what Wincustomize is looking for. And also, by watching the number of downloads and ratings these wallpapers in the new gallery get, it would give the moderators a chance to compare their opinions and choices with those of the community.
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sounds good
Reply #83 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Hum, nice plan Jafo.  I could live with that. :LOL: 

Reply #84 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Jafo, as usual, took my idea, tweaked it a bit, and rephrased it.

Tha guy can't help wanting to be like me.  But really, who can blame him?   ;) 
Reply #85 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Jafo, as usual, took my idea, tweaked it a bit, and rephrased it.Tha guy can't help wanting to be like me. But really, who can blame him?
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/me plots to hide Zubaz under a rock...permanently....;)

All good ideas are mine, I tell you!!!...;)

Reply #86 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Jafo, as usual, took my idea, tweaked it a bit, and rephrased it.Tha guy can't help wanting to be like me. But really, who can blame him?
Jafo plots to hide Zubaz under a rock...permanently....
All good ideas are mine, I tell you!!!...
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I do believe Zubaz under a rock was mine.... ;)
Reply #87 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Seems like a fine solution Jafo!
Reply #88 from WinCustomize Forums Top
It don't bother me if my wall is rejected. What bothers me is i am not given a reason why it was rejected. If it is a miner thing that needed to be fixed, i would be happy to change it. How can i improve it? What is it that you can see that i don't? My latest wall (Iron Horse) was rejected and i am confused as to why. I read some time ago that given reasons for rejected material was stoped due to unhappy responses from the author, even threats. How about making a rejected reason list for those who would like to know why there work was rejected. ;)
Reply #89 from WinCustomize Forums Top

You might want to check your e-mail:-

Dear HeirOfSlytherin,

Thank you for your recent upload of your Iron Horse Old 97 for WallPapers
Unfortunately your upload has not met our guidelines and has been rejected.

The preview image and file upload were corrupted. Please resubmit.

Sincerely,
The WinCustomize Staff

 

Reply #90 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thankyou Fuzzy. Thats all i needed to know. ;) If thats the reason for the rejection, you need to include that in the upload notification e-mail. I did have problems uploading it a few times. Third time was the charm. I was assuming it went through ok. :D
Reply #91 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Jafo plots to hide Zubaz under a rock...permanently....
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Seems like a fine solution Jafo!
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:SURPRISED: :LOL: :LOL:
Reply #92 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Reply #93 from WinCustomize Forums Top

What....putting exclaimation marks inside triangles?

 

...;)

Reply #94 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If thats the reason for the rejection, you need to include that in the upload notification e-mail.
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That was the e-mail sent to you... I just copied it from the cc I received  ;) 

Reply #95 from WinCustomize Forums Top
There was a comment here about wallpapers being uploaded, but set to show in the submitters personal site only. I think there may be a glitch in the upload process for wallpapers, as I had one approved today that I did not check that box on, yet after it was approved I checked and the Personal Site only box was checked. I wondered why I did not get any downloads on it at all, and after checking I found the problem.
Reply #96 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Here's what just got sent to my personal gallery. I don't know weather to laugh or not. *snicker WWW Link
Is it irony or did I ask for it?


*or conspiracy! hmmmm...
Reply #97 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Is it irony or did I ask for it?
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I think a little bit of both :NOTSURE:
Reply #98 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Here's what just got sent to my personal gallery. I don't know weather to laugh or not. *snicker WWW Link
Is it irony or did I ask for it?
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 :LOL:  nice
Reply #99 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I suppose I shouldn't comment on the fate of that wall, but...