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Weekly Poll: Wallpaper Moderation

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Weekly Poll: Wallpaper Moderation

Stirring the pot

https://www.wincustomize.com/webpoll.aspx
from WinCustomize Forums

One of the most controversial galleries on WinCustomize is, without a doubt, our wallpaper section.  In the past 90% of all work submitted was rejected out-right.  Now, more is let through, but still the vast majority is placed on a user's personal page instead of the main gallery.  This has met with mixed reactions from wallpaper artists and users alike.  Some do not like the relaxed requirements, claiming that it has ruined the quality of the gallery.  Others contend that we're being too restrictive and driving away wallpaper artists to other sites such as DeviantArt, Interfacelift etc.

So I thought this week we'd put it to an actual vote.  Let everyone voice their opinion on how they would like wallpaper moderation to be handled. 

At the moment, moderators look at a wallpaper submission, and decide whether it's personal-page-only, or main gallery material.  The general metric we use is if something would be rated a 5/10 or higher (or 2.5 stars), it's good enough for the main gallery, 4/10 and lower goes to the personal page.  We only reject broken submissions, submissions with bad preview images, or rips.

So, is our new policy to send some items to the personal page, and others to the main gallery a good one?  Is the 5/10 threshold an acceptable limit, or should it be raised or lowered?  Vote on the poll, and share your opinion in the comments below.

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Reply #101 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I suppose I shouldn't comment on the fate of that wall, but...
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You're right. You shouldn't.
Reply #102 from WinCustomize Forums Top
CursorFX - Customize your Windows cursor
Reply #104 from WinCustomize Forums Top



your turn PO'
Reply #107 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Topic . . there was a topic?   ;) 
Reply #109 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Well, I actually like Fuzzy's original idea about having a gallery where the walls are kept on a temporary basis and only remain longer than a set period of time (week, two weeks) if they achieve a certain number of downloads. After that time, they are moved to the submitter's personal page. I don't think this is the same as the problem that Zoomba suggested would occur in regards to having a ratings-based system, because if you look at the skins that receive large number of downloads, they usually tend to be ones on which there is a broad-based consensus of high quality--at least, I believe this to be the case; it certainly seems to be with galleries like OD and WB.

I don't know how comfortable I am with the idea of the kind of heavy moderation that Zoomba describes as the original wallpaper moderation scheme. My primary reason for this is that wallpapers, almost more than many other skins, seem to be really subjective.

(Yes, I've submitted a total of two walls to the site and both were rated poorly; I respect that and concede they may not be the best or even particularly technically sophisticated, but they were images that I enjoyed creating and having on my system. So this is not about me and my work; I'm not a wallpaper guy because I'm not really much of an artist. However, I've seen walls, even some that come with premium suites that, to me, look terrible and I don't really want on my desktop.)

Am I alone in feeling like wallpaper-judging is much more subjective than many of the other galleries? Based on the poll results, I'm definitely in the minority about disliking intense moderation.
Reply #110 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Hm..
Wonder why this was PP-only? A glitch?
http://spyderbytegraphx.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=35418&libid=8
Reply #111 from WinCustomize Forums Top
rejections should be taken as constructive criticism... thus pushing designers to submit better material ... which will in term, help enhance their design skills (sorry for the run on sentence) ;p as it stands now, people dont even try their best because they know that ANY design they come up with will get posted ...
Reply #112 from WinCustomize Forums Top
rejections should be taken as constructive criticism... thus pushing designers to submit better material .
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If walls are classified as art then there may be no good definition of "better"
If they are classifies as good design for having icons on top of with little destraction . . it's a different thing altogether.
Reply #113 from WinCustomize Forums Top
The general metric we use is if something would be rated a 5/10 or higher (or 2.5 stars), it's good enough for the main gallery, 4/10 and lower goes to the personal page.
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I find this statement to be untrue. A recent submission by myself was rated at 2.5 stars and was still put in my personal page only :( I find the whole wallpaper moderation process mystifying. I'll give an example. Good enough for main gallery: WWW Link Not good enough: WWW Link I'm not in anyway bashing Sk, he's a truly gifted artist :CONGRAT:, this is just an example. 2of3 runs and hides because he knows he's gonna get some flack for this post
Reply #114 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Skins submitted by those of Journeyman level and above do not pass through moderation  ;) 

Such individuals have earned that right through their overall contribution to the site and skinning in general.

Reply #115 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Personally, I like your wallpaper. However, a moderator's personal taste is not counted when moderating wallpapers, like/dislike - the door swings both ways  ;) 
Reply #116 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Skins submitted by those of Journeyman level and above do not pass through moderation
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2of3 slaps forehead

I actually knew that.....


note to self:

THINK before posting :p

Thanks for not blasting me!
Reply #117 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thanks for not blasting me!
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 . . for next time.  ;)
Reply #118 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Definitely NO to a DA type site! ;)
Reply #119 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I find the poll fascinating™. History suggests moderators have always received flak for taking a hard line towards wallpaper moderation, which isn't true btw, but here we have the majority saying they want stronger moderation...

WinCustomize once proudly boasted it had the finest collection of wallpapers on the internet. Sadly that hasn't been true for some time. Lets hope a rejuvenation of the wallpaper gallery puts it back where it belongs and gives the wallpaper artist a real chance to showcase their work.