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Pope Meets Priest Accused of Anti-Jewish Remark

From the Associated press, Another "CHRISTIAN'' SHOWING some true colors.

This is why I have little or almost no respect for Christians in general.

ROME — Pope Benedict XVI met this week with a Polish priest who has been accused of making anti-Jewish comments. Photos showing the pope at his summer residence with, Father Tadeusz Rydzyk along with two other Polish priests, were published in Polish newspapers yesterday.

The Vatican has not commented on the meeting. But a Vatican official confirmed yesterday that the three were brought to the pope, along with other pilgrims, after the pontiff's weekly public blessing Sunday in Castel Gandolfo, his summer home. Father Rydzyk was allegedly caught on tape saying Jews are greedy and that President Kaczynski of Poland is subservient to Jewish lobbyists.


Nothing like a Catholic priest perpetuating the fallacy that all JEWS are Greedy. Yay Christians! Once again caught with their pants down, oops no that is another story. Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?

 

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Reply #126 Top
well some if not most of the christians are the chosen people.

why because some if not most of them are from the lost ten tribes of isreal.


i don't know what goes on in europe. but here in the usa most american males are circumsized at birth. what is the sign of the chosen people.


Reply #127 Top
Danielost posts:
but here in the usa most american males are circumsized at birth. what is the sign of the chosen people.


Of St.John the Baptist, St.Luke 1:59, "And on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they would have named him Zacharias after his father, but his mother said, 'Not so; he shall be named John.'"

Of Christ, St.Luke 2:21, "And at the end of the eight days, when He was circumcised, He was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb."

"Jesus" means "Yahhweh saves" or "Yahweh is salvation", that is Savour. This name was given the child not as the result of any human decision, but in keeping with the commandment of Almighty God which the angel communicated to the Blessed Virgin and St.Joseph. St.Luke 1:31; St.Mark 1:21.

Our Lord Jesus Christ was without sin, so He stood in no need for circumcision. But He submitted to the rite becasue, according to the prophecies, the Redeemer was to be a true Israelite and son of Abraham. To be such and to be recognized as such, circumcision was necessary. By His Incarnation, our Lord took upon Himself the sins of mankind, so as to make satisfaction for them. FOr this purpose, He shed His precious Blood for the first time in circumcision, and showed us that He had come to redeem us by His BLood. Therefore, the name of Jesus was given to Him at His circumcision. Also, by voluntarily obeying the Law and submitting Himself to the rite of circumcision, He wished to give an example of obedience to the Divine Law.


Circumcision was the rite established by Almighty GOd under the Old Covenant to mark out those who belonged to His chosen people. He commanded Abraham to institute circumcision as a sign of the COvenant He had made with him and all his descendants. Genesis 17:10-14 prescribing that it should be done on the 8th day after birth. The rite was performed either at home or in the Synagogue and in addition to the actual circumcision, the ceremony included prayers and the naming of the child.

At the Council of Jerusalem Acts 15:1, the Apostles definitively declared that those entering the Church had no need to be circumcised as a religious ceremonial requirement. St.Paul's explicit teaching on the irrelevance of circumcision in the context of the New COvenant established by Christ is to be found in Galatians 5:2, 6:12, and Colossians 2:1. St. Paul told the Galatians, "In Jesus CHrist neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity."

The Church calls for "circumcision of the foreskin" of your heart, (Deut.10:16) which is equivalent to the command to make you a new heart, a new spirit, a new creature. Circumcision of the flesh is not forbidden by the Church.

Circumcision among Jews was basically religious in character. It signified citizenship of the male child in God's chosen people. With the institution of Christian Baptism the commandment to circumcise ceased to apply. Baptism (which displaced circumcision) signifies citizenship in the kingdom of the Messias.


Jews do adhere to circumcision, though Reform Jewry, disregarding the positive declaration of Moses, that the male who is not circumcised "that soul shall be destroyed out of his people." Gen. 17:14 declares it not a necessary element in Judaism. Therefore, some Reform synagogues have "consecrated" uncircumcised male children. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that the practice of circumcision is so engrained in Jews, "that its observance is often the sole remaining token of allegiance to Judaism, after all other ceremonial institutions have been discarded."

Reply #128 Top
there are two ways to get lost.

1 lost to history ie no one knows where you are/went

2 forget who you are.


and the circumcision proformed by doctors is not a religous thing. but it also has no medical purpose.


and the last time i checked an 8 day old baby doesn't have much choice in anything he/she does.
Reply #129 Top
and the circumcision proformed by doctors is not a religous thing. but it also has no medical purpose.


LW has written quite an interesting article with loads of comments on the medical/hygenic purpose of circumcision. I bet if we ask please, she will be glad to set that link.

Actually it does have some medical purpose for patients suffering from some diseases.

and the last time i checked an 8 day old baby doesn't have much choice in anything he/she does.


No, the baby has no say, but it was instituted by Almighty God and practiced by observant Israelites exclusively for relligious reasons. It's pathological value was recognized and suggestions of a hygenic nature were stressed in Jewry by Philo who lived from around 30BC to 40AD.

Reply #130 Top
It's pathological value was recognized and suggestions of a hygenic nature were stressed in Jewry by Philo who lived from around 30BC to 40AD.


i have read that it has little no medical reasons.
Reply #131 Top
There are few things more amusing than reading how religious psychos go about justifying how their religious views are right and everyone else's are wrong. Funny stuff to be sure.

Keeping me in stitches here.
Reply #132 Top
Our Lord Jesus Christ was without sin, so He stood in no need for circumcision. But He submitted to the rite becasue, according to the prophecies, the Redeemer was to be a true Israelite and son of Abraham. To be such and to be recognized as such, circumcision was necessary. By His Incarnation, our Lord took upon Himself the sins of mankind, so as to make satisfaction for them. FOr this purpose, He shed His precious Blood for the first time in circumcision, and showed us that He had come to redeem us by His BLood. Therefore, the name of Jesus was given to Him at His circumcision. Also, by voluntarily obeying the Law and submitting Himself to the rite of circumcision, He wished to give an example of obedience to the Divine Law.


At the Council of Jerusalem Acts 15:1, the Apostles definitively declared that those entering the Church had no need to be circumcised as a religious ceremonial requirement. St.Paul's explicit teaching on the irrelevance of circumcision in the context of the New COvenant established by Christ is to be found in Galatians 5:2, 6:12, and Colossians 2:1. St. Paul told the Galatians, "In Jesus CHrist neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity."


Lula, let's just think for a minute about those two statements you made.

In both you declare Jesus as your God, explain his circumcision, interpret what it means, and how He took on himself the sins of mankind. All that without a single word from Jesus to justify your understanding. All is based on writings of others AFTER he was raised. In fact many many years after he was raised.

All of the writings after him is no more than someone's own understanding. Dont make it God's words please. beleive what you wish but dont inject other's words in God's Words. Doing that is a huge mistake.

The second statement is really interesting: what authority did they have to declare that Jesus did not need to be circumcised? even St. Paul's words as you put it doesnt mean that circumcision was not needed. All what Paul said is this: circumcision doesnt mean the person is faithful, faith is reflected in the works. how is that to mean circumcision is not needed? this is like saying prayer is not needed because it doesnt necessarily mean the person is faithful since faith is in the works.

you keep saying Jesus sacrificed his blood and his life for all mankind's sin. does that mean humans can make all the sins they like with no consequences on the day of judgement? how can God die and get raised and have blood in the first place?

God is not human Lula, he does not die or have blood.

I know you will explain all this in a very convoluted way. but it is just that. Convlouted. God and His Religion could not be this vague in any way shape or form.

But the fact remains that all of your views are based on something other than what Jesus actually said.


Reply #133 Top


No where in scriptures do I see that NOW the Christians are the chosen ones. Please either give me scriptural reference or retract this statement.

Gentiles were included with Israel as righteous converts. Numbers 15:29 address this. Gentiles were grafted in.


Before I even continue with this discussion I would like to have an answer to my request from post 139.
Reply #134 Top
Also, I asked a polite question in 131 as well.
Reply #135 Top
you know what I find facinating is someone focusing on spelling not the message,sometimes I get to out typing my keyboard and sometimes i mis a letter or a space,sheesh we are using keyboards and sometimes those keyboards wear out,I use a laptop so it has a built in keyboard and sometimes the letter or space does not strike.

Is my spelling going to send you to hell,no,your testimony is going to either send you to salvation and the kingdom or death through judgement not spelling,heck if it is about spelling then our bibles and qarans are wrong for so much mispelling going on.

Lulu quit trying to justify catholisism,most of us here know that this is a universal religon of sin,it allows anyone with a degree to preach and people accept these people of sin as authoritive teachers,its a cast off that Israel used when they were divorced from covenant.

MM want truth,go read,if you want a link to a true name bible ask..but if some dumby wants to base intelligence on spelling then their are alot of smart people who are stupid.
Pastor Terry
Reply #136 Top
Iesus means the Horse in Hebrew,in latin it means god of swine,Hosea means salvation,Yah's Salvation,Yahshua,why worship a pagan diety claiming it is the right deity,remember what happened when Moses went to get the commandments and torah,the people made a idol to worship as the real deal and died for it...
Pastor Terry
Reply #137 Top
you know what I find facinating is someone focusing on spelling not the message,sometimes I get to out typing my keyboard and sometimes i mis a letter or a space,


jeremiah,

I stayed out of this one until this point. This excuse is pure and utter BS. As LW stated, you claim to have multiple Masters degrees; she is correct in pointing out they do not accept poor grammar and spelling on a dissertation.

Your spelling errors are not of the "oops, I hit the wrong key" variety. They are of the "I don't know how to spell it" variety. If you hit the wrong key, the typo is usually very close to the actual letter(s) on the keyboard. And no keyboard can be blamed for poor grammar.

Your "teachings", btw, are not consistent with someone who is well versed in scripture. That's all I have to say about that.
Reply #138 Top
you mean all of those rabbis that i have been listening to has it wrong. they say that the name of god is the Torah said as one word. and since no man can say it that way no man can say the name of god.
Reply #139 Top
Nothing like a Catholic priest perpetuating the fallacy that all JEWS are Greedy. Yay Christians! Once again caught with their pants down, oops no that is another story. Shows you that in their hearts they still blame the JEWS for killing another JEW called Jesus, so much for forgiveness huh?


Of course Christians want to kill Jews. The New Testament explicitly condemns Jews for executing Jesus, as a political pawn in an ongoig struggle between the Temple and the Roman Governor, Pilate. But that isn't the whole of the situation - if it were, Christians wouldn't so zealously safeguard Israel's continued existence.

Christians don't hate all Jews. They only hate the convinced unbelieving Jew who will never convert to Christianity. The best way to bring about the deaths of all the Jews Christians do hate is to bring about Armageddon (at which point the god of Christians will kick all the unbelievers' asses) and that can't happen until all the Jews return to their ancestral homelands (as described in the Bible - presentday Israel still doesn't fully occupy the same area as the ancient Israel), when they and all of humanity will judged by the returned Christ.

For any real Christian, the kind of Christian who truly believes his Bible is the revealed word of God, the only good Jew is a dead Jew.

And that's a good thing for Jews, because the real chosen people are the Jews who subsequently become Christians, while all the evil Jews, the children of Satan, get to fry in Hell eternally.

And no one could bitch about that because these sonsofbitches reallyactuallytruly did kill Jesus.

What grounds do I have for saying these terrible things about Christians?

I was one, and the things I've said here were articles of my faith.

So tell it like it is, Elie, you damned heeb (I'll see you in Hell, buddy).
Reply #140 Top
you mean all of those rabbis that i have been listening to has it wrong.


Yes, you egregious idiot. Your Rabbis are wrong. Not only are they wrong but they're terrible tachers if an unadulterated ignoramus like you is a product of their teaching.
Reply #141 Top
Who is a "real Christian"? One whose conversion is acceptable by Christ... Last I checked, He's the only one who gets to decide that.
Reply #142 Top
the Horse in Hebrew,in latin it means god of swine,Hosea means salvation


Hosea - deliverer, not 'salvation'. WWW Link

Horse in Hebrew - the closest cognate to the word horse in Hebrew (for which I have fonts) is the Ugaitic word 'prd'. There is no cognate to the word 'Jesus' (as meaning 'horse') at all.

WWW Link

'god of swine': in Latin this translates as 'deus sus'.

WWW Link

Pastor Terry/Jeremiah - if intelligence were liquid you couldn't muster enough to drown a midget gnat. Or, put another way...

What a maroon.
Reply #143 Top
(Citizen)EmperorofIceCreamAugust 12, 2007 11:40:57


Of course Christians want to kill Jews. The New Testament explicitly condemns Jews for executing Jesus, as a political pawn in an ongoig struggle between the Temple and the Roman Governor, Pilate. But that isn't the whole of the situation - if it were, Christians wouldn't so zealously safeguard Israel's continued existence.

Christians don't hate all Jews. They only hate the convinced unbelieving Jew who will never convert to Christianity. The best way to bring about the deaths of all the Jews Christians do hate is to bring about Armageddon (at which point the god of Christians will kick all the unbelievers' asses) and that can't happen until all the Jews return to their ancestral homelands (as described in the Bible - presentday Israel still doesn't fully occupy the same area as the ancient Israel), when they and all of humanity will judged by the returned Christ.

For any real Christian, the kind of Christian who truly believes his Bible is the revealed word of God, the only good Jew is a dead Jew.

And that's a good thing for Jews, because the real chosen people are the Jews who subsequently become Christians, while all the evil Jews, the children of Satan, get to fry in Hell eternally.

And no one could bitch about that because these sonsofbitches reallyactuallytruly did kill Jesus.


good stuff there Simon, and that is the Christian version of how it will all happen, the Jewish version is well slightly different, as to we Jews the Messiah has not arrived yet, so no worries.

So tell it like it is, Elie, you damned heeb (I'll see you in Hell, buddy).


I have got some 'juice' with the Boss you know, being all chosen n stuff, I just might carry you and Sabrina with me.
Reply #144 Top
(Citizen)little-whip


OK i have another stupid question. if god didn't want you to use his name why would he tell you what it was.

god doesn't do anything unless there is a reason behind it. ie if he tells you to jump off a cliff then you probable should do it. there is only one person in the old testament that i know of that kept telling god no he wouldn't jump off that cliff. that was David. i believe it was 5 times god give David a chance to kill the king before him(sorry can't think of his name) and 5 times David said no.

so i say again if god didn't want you to use his name then he wouldn't have given it to you to use.

and as for the catholics on here spelling the word god is no worse either.

OK you can tell me how stupid i am again because i think god is smart enough to know that all he has to do to stop you from using his name he doesn't have to give it to you.

and these rabbis are on the TV when they are talking about the bible, or the death of Christ. things like that. else i would never have known about the myth of the gods name being the Torah said as one word.
Reply #145 Top
Curious,very curious,focusing now on spelling over the message,sigh what a crock,just because a keyboard does not produce the right letter but the word is there a person is stupid..lol,ROFLMRAO....If thats the case this thread should be shut down because of spelling and we should not type til we learn how to appease people on correct grammer and spelling..lol

You all can call me what you want,I forgive for you really do not have a clue,just a keyboard on steriods,my advice is go actually study the scriptures and leave outside commentators alone til you understand what is truth and not truth.
Pastor Terry

A-zues/Iesus means alot of different pagan references of Lucifer since Babel,this is the name given to the Man of Iniquity.
Pastor Terry
Reply #146 Top
Curious,very curious,focusing now on spelling over the message,sigh what a crock,just because a keyboard does not produce the right letter but the word is there a person is stupid..lol,ROFLMRAO....If thats the case this thread should be shut down because of spelling and we should not type til we learn how to appease people on correct grammer and spelling..lol


No, you claimed multiple Master's degrees, idiot boy. It's not about your spelling, but about your claim to have two Master's degrees despite spelling that would make my 9 year old cringe! Yes, there are people on here with spelling as bad as yours, jeremiah, but to my knowledge, only one of those people has ever claimed to have a graduate degree on top of it.

Emp called your shit, jeremiah, now answer it. And while you're at it, how about answering Little Whip's challenge and providing the information to prove your advanced degrees, eh, buddy boy?
Reply #147 Top
You all can call me what you want,I forgive for you really do not have a clue,just a keyboard on steriods,my advice is go actually study the scriptures and leave outside commentators alone til you understand what is truth and not truth.


I have studied, and I continue to study.
Reply #148 Top
You all can call me what you want


What a maroon.


Reply #149 Top
I still have the one and only PhD on the entire Joeuser site from the College of hard knocks.
Reply #150 Top
Try studying outside of a school system,thats even harder,self study is not as easy as some think it is.....I homeschooled myself after graduating High School on Religon and History,for History is something I have always studied,and Religon grew up in One and used it to study many various religons of the ancient world....See I have to prove nothing.....You have to prove everything.
Pastor Terry