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A New Catagory For Skinning?

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A New Catagory For Skinning?

from WinCustomize Forums
~Hi

I'll just be brief and not really intending to point fingers at anyone.

But after viewing a few snitty comments on some WB skins ( and I'll remind everyone that blinds are shared and if you don't like it, don't download it, simple )

The real Topic here is what about starting a catagory for " New Skinners "

Several of the " women " of WC have their own little test group. Others don't have that pleasure of being able to test their work before uploading it.

Wouldnt it be nice to be able to upload a skin just to see if your doing anything RIGHT rather than being told everything thats wrong..or worse yet, being laughed at by people that forget they once had to start somewhere .

Im happy with just tweaking others blinds. Way too much involved in skinning an entire blind.

But..a catagory that has no ratings..( doesnt have to be viewed by the public..could be just members of WC)

Just a thought.......
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Reply #51 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I heard there was a NEW Troll in here..


..I call it thumping to the oldies!
Reply #52 from WinCustomize Forums Top
double post
Multiplicity - Control multiple PCs using one keyboard and mouse
Reply #53 from WinCustomize Forums Top
How much to pass over the t(r)oll bridge?
[what key's it in?]
Reply #54 from WinCustomize Forums Top
manage the trolls







yeah. right.
Reply #55 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I am all for the idea of making new skinners welcome and invited. Probably the biggest thing that keeps me visiting WC everyday is the community.

But this community exists and thrives because of the tools and rules of the site: forums, comments on submissions, ratings, access levels, and so on.

So I wonder, what changes or additions, specifically, could be made. And this thread is filled (for the most part) with suggestions.

In the end though, it seems the goals are to 1) increase constructive feedback from veteran skinners, and 2) create the least threatening circumstances possible for beginners to share.

Perhaps goal 2 can be achieved by censoring "unqualified" commenters (as has been suggested in a number of forms) and having no rating stars, but to achieve goal number 1 would be more difficult.

I doubt veteran skinners feel intimidated from commenting using the existing system--how will such individuals be encouraged to participate more? And I worry that setting aside a special place for people to dump rough, unfinished, and to be honest probably soon-to-be-abandoned skins is unlikely to attract many apprentices, much less journeypersons for constructive input.

Requests for criticism on the forums are usually well recieved. Perhaps a special forum where people could link to works-in-progress stored as personal-site-only skins is a possibility.
Reply #56 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Trol?????? HHHMMMMMMM. Thanks for the support for us new skinners, Fairyy, But it seems some of us newbies will never have a chance to get a start. I have submited a few ObjectDock backgrounds and have done all of the work myself. I knew that I was competing against some of the best, But I did it anyway. I may never be as good as the "skinning Gods" here, But I do try. I thought I found a start and being called a "Troll", Doesn't really make me want to be a better skinner or even a skinner at all. I submit here so I can get the critiques and learn from my mistakes. I do realize I could submit at other sites, But, the best are here. Well, Thanks anyway. Keep up the great work folks!!!!!! (Sorry For Ranting)
Reply #57 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Me supports this too.
Reply #58 from WinCustomize Forums Top
and being called a "Troll"

Hey, Bro, this was in no way a reference to you, but to the buttmunch making idle threats and such. I love your work.

I would never refer to a noobie or someone making an honest effort as a Troll. (With the exception of Bichur. I HATE Bichur. I DESPISE him. Heck, he probably likes cats!)
Reply #59 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Heck, he probably likes cats!


packed with wild rice, turned on a slow spit.
Reply #60 from WinCustomize Forums Top
My humble appology for the ranting. Thank You...
Reply #61 from WinCustomize Forums Top
and yeah, it wasn't you being referred to as a troll...I can tell
Reply #62 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think a WIP gallery would be great. I would also like to see a category for NEW or FIRST time skinners in future contests..or a Promising New Talent category.
Reply #63 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Here's my two cents (canadian).

I admit it...I am one of those "women" newbie skinners. I had a bug in my bonnet - I wanted to make my own skin. But just following along with the help manual wasn't enough. I didn't (and still don't) want to make just an ok skin. I want to make a great skin!

So...I posted sceenies of what I was trying to do, and i was lucky enough to have some of the people here agree to test my stuff before releasing it...and, believe me, alot never was and never will be released. (Thank you, you know who you are!)

I really appreciated all the positive input I recieved, but also was well aware that they were a little reluctant to point out shortcomings, perhaps from not wanting to give offence, or perhaps because they didn't have the knowledge of how to fix it to share.

So, I screwed up my courage and asked for help from one of the skinners whose work I admired and who gave me some constructive criticism on one of my early attemps at skinning - Night Train. Key word here is constructive.

He steered me to the Skinartistry workshop, where he was going to be giving lessons on line. Health kept him from this, but he continued to gave me "no holds" barred critiques of my work. And encouraged me to stick with the workshop.

The Skinartistry Workshop provided a place where I could post my work in progress stuff....I recieved honest critiques and most importantly got help and advice on stuff i just wasn't good at...encouraged to keep at it even when my attempts were failures and then when i finally made a descent skin... I was encouraged to go one better. I truly became an "apprentice" in the truest sense of the word.

My fears of not being allowed to join this "boys" club were totally unfounded....not only did I get great encouragement and support from the "Big Boys" I gained(am hopefull will continue to gain) skills along with friends.

I will finish this by saying a workshop is a splendid idea...and if one isn't formed here, try the one at Skinartistry. Or do what I did...ask someone you admire for help...you'd be suprized at how readily they will share any knowledge they have with you. And don't pay too much attention to comments that say "you suck" without saying " and here's why and here's what you can do to change it"
Reply #64 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i wanna know how to get into the 'women's club


wakka wakka
Reply #65 from WinCustomize Forums Top
i wanna know how to get into the 'women's club


Get a Medical Proceedure..


Or piss one off good enough and she'll do it for free...

LMAO
Reply #66 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I will finish this by saying a workshop is a splendid idea...and if one isn't formed here, try the one at Skinartistry.


I agree with everything you just said Boopish!

I really hope that one does show up here. I have a wall in the workshop at Skinartistry now and have gotten great information from everyone. Someone else can spot things that you may have just not noticed. If there was a place like the workshop here I may have had some clue as to why the wall I submitted here was rejected. No comments at all, just a rejection. Thats ok, It also can be a learning experience.Bt that just made me all the more determined to do something better. (Boopish, I think I'll submit that wall here,can't hurt)

An Po.....(I can't resist....)

i wanna know how to get into the 'women's club


You need at least 1 cat!
Reply #67 from WinCustomize Forums Top
'po...just bring chocolate.....

And please don't take offence at the "boys club" comment...it just alludes to the fact that there are more males in this art form than females...at the moment. I just couldn't find a more pc way of putting it!
Reply #68 from WinCustomize Forums Top


I will finish this by saying a workshop is a splendid idea...and if one isn't formed here, try the one at Skinartistry. Or do what I did...ask someone you admire for help...you'd be suprized at how readily they will share any knowledge they have with you. And don't pay too much attention to comments that say "you suck" without saying " and here's why and here's what you can do to change it"


Nice post betty...I can't believe someone dredged this up..I wrote this forum almost a year ago. But, its still has some great ideas along the way.

As for testing out your first blind attempts..it was always fun to see what came in the email that day. Some of them were filled with errors. But, right from day one you had the ability to make astounding color combinations and something " different "

You certainly have come a long way eh ?
Reply #69 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I would never refer to a noobie or someone making an honest effort as a Troll. (With the exception of Bichur. I HATE Bichur. I DESPISE him. Heck, he probably likes cats!)


Poor Bichur..always getting picked on ..
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boopish
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boopish
Reply #74 from WinCustomize Forums Top
We at Skinnalicious are doing a Windowblind turorial via live chat and we are now opening the doors for a live session on how to do a blind for those that are interested. There is a poll up at Skinnalicious asking whether you would be interested in participating in a live chat tutorial on how to do a blind. After the poll, we will be setting up a forum where you can sign up for it if interested. We will meet approximately one to two hours per session, and at a set time.

We are also offering a work in progress live chat which will be done at a set time daily for those that are interested.

Take care everyone and hope we will see a lot of you interested and wanting to participate.
Reply #75 from WinCustomize Forums Top
We at Skinnalicious are doing a Windowblind turorial via live chat


Thats pretty cool. if im not mistaken I think Night Train used to hold WB class's at another site, I always meant to try to get in on that but never was ready to when the class's started..

Just an Idea, perhaps someone could log each class and post the log as a sort of "Tutorial" on the sites boards?

Some of us dont do live chats well..LoL, or cant seem to find the time to devote to them...