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Overdog worship

Overdog worship

One of the trends I've noticed in "Generation Y" that's different from Generation X and especially the baby boomers is that members of Generation Y seem to automatically want to side with the overdog.

Nothing exemplifies this attitude more than the stark attitude differences about Microsoft. If you polled the typical 18 year old techie about Microsoft, you would find that they overwhelming believe Microsoft's technologies are great, innovative, and solid. Ask Generation X and a lot of skepticism shows up. And by the time you get to the baby boomers you have to weed out the profanity used to describe it.

For us at Stardock, this really bites hard because we make software that extends the OS. As a result, any time Microsoft adds something that works similarly to what we make, the overdog worshippers begin dissing our software. Often times the similarities are almost identical. Yet, if you add the Microsoft logo to our stuff, it magically becomes better, faster, smaller, etc.

It's a rather surreal experience seeing young techies equating software written by Microsoft as small, fast, efficient, and relatively bug free. I actually don't have a negative view of Microsoft's coding abilities. I think they write software a bit better than average when compared to other mega corporations. I do believe that their internal developer culture is inadvertently harmful to third party innovation. That's because developers at Microsoft are allowed to work on, in their free time, additional software projects and from what I've seen, these often end up being "inspired" by third party software rather than original creations. But there's a big difference between Freeware written by Joe freeware author and someone at Microsoft. Anything released by Microsoft gains the air of legitimacy that no third party can get.

And that brings us back to the overdog worshipping. In Windows XP, the OS supports being "skinned". The OS comes with Windows XP style blue, silver, and green. But if you're willing to hack out the digital signing protection, you can download and copy into your system directory additional themes. The msstyles format is pretty decent overall. But it's not very powerful. It was made to make the Windows XP style and as long as you're willing to basically stick with themes that are pretty basic, you can have some variety.

Our company, by contrast, makes WindowBlinds. A program that extends Windows XP to natively support skinning too. We use pretty much the same APIs so we're just as "native". The difference is that our skin format is much more advanced since our program only exists to skin and wasn't designed around a particular design.

Yet on some of the techie sites that are so frequented by Generation Ys, you would think our software was buggy crap. Often times the alleged faults with it are exactly the same faults that exist with the included msstyles (because we use the same APIs). And none of these faults are what a normal person would consider significant.

But that's where the underdog worship really takes off. All manner of faults are imagined to exist for our software and the only thing these faults have in common is that we're not from Microsoft.

Let me give you some examples to show you just how far some of the overdog worshippers will go:

Claim: There are no good skins for WindowBlinds, they're all fat and useless.

Msstyles supports only very basic skins. WindowBlinds is a superset format, it can do that plus pretty much anything else you can imagine.

Let me show you some screenshots to show you what we've been doing for years:

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-nov99.jpg (November 1999)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-apr00.jpg (April 2000)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-july01.jpg (July 2001)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-july00.jpg (July 2000)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-aug00.jpg (Aug 2000)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-nov02.jpg (Nov 2002)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-jan03.jpg (Jan 2003)

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-mar03.jpg (Mar 2003)

WindowBlinds can do any visual style that msstyles can since it's a superset. And in fact, with going on 3000 skins for it, there are many many minimalistic skins available.

In short, this is a baseless claim. But you see, because msstyles is so limited in what it can do and because it's Microsoft, then these limitations are "good". You can bet that if the tables were reversed these same people would be claiming that our software was too limited.

Claim: WindowBlinds uses too much memory!

WindowBlinds uses around 2 megabytes less ram when a skin is applied than msstyles does. In short, this claim is simply made up. But we hear it all the time. It's so easy to tell that it's not true, XP has a task manager that shows how much memory is allocated.

Claim: WindowBlinds skins crash my apps!

WindowBlinds uses the same APIs as XP. It's no more likely to crash an app than msstyles is.

Msstyles, as a format, are like .BMP. They get the job done. WindowBlinds is a lot like .PNG files. PNG has advantages over .BMP such as alpha channel support, compression, etc. But if these two formats were remaed .MSIMG and .IMG or something, I bet you would have a lot of people claiming that .BMP is "Better".

The really sad thing is that these overdog worshippers don't realize that if they had their way, they'd likely be worse off. Needless to say, Microsoft doesn't support people hacking their system DLL so that they can patch in additional unsigned msstyle files. The next version of Windows, code-named Longhorn is already available via various "channels" in early beta. Guess what? .msstyles is no longer supported. Microsoft isn't in the skinning business. They make OSes and their top priority is producing a great OS. They have their hands full with compatibility on things that actually matter let alone worrying whether skins made by people who are hacking out their security features to work are going to be taken care of or not.

But imaging if the overdog worshippers got their way and we disappeared. We're the only realistic alternative. Do they really want to be at the mercy of Microsoft? What most people don't realize is that Microsoft's internal culture makes individual developers there very important. The only reason why Windows XP even has an msstyles "format" is because a couple of developers there decided to create a format rather than hard code it. Imagine if they leave? There's no business justification to continue supporting skinning. So if not in Longhorn, at some point, odds are they'd be out of luck. And bear in mind, it took years for WindowBlinds to get to where it is today.

This is just one story in a cosmic book of stories on how there's an increasing tendency for young techies to blindly worship whoever is dominant. An almost innate desire to be on the winning team seems to have gripped the young techie culture. I wonder how many of them have considered the long term implications of such over dog worship.
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Reply #126 Top
Sorry... can't help...never used a Mac. If they are that hard to figure out I'm glad I didn't buy one!
Reply #127 Top
whatever, but thanks for the help. I said I work for a guru from time to time. So on OS 10 how do you take screenshots so I can prove I use a mac?
Reply #128 Top
Hey if you like PCs thats cool with me, each to his own. I'm not mad at anyone. If you feel you must keep a eye on me I don't mind at all.
Reply #129 Top
How to take a screenshot of your Mac Desktop:

Take photo with digital camera

Unplug Mac from wall socket

Plug in Windows system

transfer image from digital camera to Photoshop

Save as .jpg file

Upload to WinCustomize.

Plug Mac back in

connect to internet (if possible)

log into WinCustomize

rant about your great Mac screenshot
Reply #130 Top
Actually I think I'll just shut up now. Your post is another classic example of being made fun of because I use a mac. That all changes tommorrow. I'm buying a new PC with XP on it. Maybe then I will fit in a little bit better.
Reply #131 Top
How to take an OS X screenshot:

Applications > Utilities > Grab

http://macos.about.com/library/weekly/aa101700a.htm

48 seconds, google. Another useless fact I'll never use, found for someone who could have as easily cracked open a manual.
Reply #132 Top
read my previous post my child.
Reply #133 Top
I don't believe you!!!!!!! Don't do it pleeeze!!!
Please buy a new Mac!!!! If you buy a Windows system, you'll keep coming here!!

And you would probably say you regret buying a Windows box and start extolling the virtues of Mac's again.

I love Microsoft! I love Windows XP! I love all the customization software available for Windows. I will skin my desktop till I die!

/me licks monitor
Reply #134 Top
Actually I've only had my mac for a week. I'm SO SICK of it. Why would you not want me to come here? I have no problem with you boxxi but your wearing my patience.

FYI I have used windows all my life and this was my first mac. I dislike them now. Only reason I was preaching about the good virtues of a mac is cuz I was tryin to piss a certain person off but it wasn't you.
Reply #135 Top
You are so UTTERLY full of crap... You know all your old posts are still here, right?

From the 'gay' thread...

#99 by kona0197 - 4/7/2003 5:01:49 AM
got that right JM. BTW this is my first post with my Mac. Anyone know how to do screen shots on a mac?


Reply #136 Top
This was a good one, too...

#55 by kona0197 - 4/6/2003 7:05:46 AM
Who cares what Kona Did? You guys need to QUIT taking stuff out of porportion. I'm sick of it. So heres what Kona's gonna do: Laugh at every one who has a PC and gets that "Blue creen of Death" because Kona has a G4 Mac now. And Kona is gonna run XP on it. Two words: Unix based.

BTW why is everyone yelling at me? I never attacked anyone here.

Grow up people.
Reply #137 Top
OK so my maths off a little. SUE ME ! (to bad we can't cuss here)
Reply #138 Top
I'm wearing your patience???!!!

keep going buddy........
Reply #139 Top
Com on BoXXi get off my back OK?
Reply #140 Top
No.
Reply #141 Top
I will be on your back every step you take here. I'm a moderator here, that's my job.
That's why I have an exile button. and I ain't afraid to use it!
Reply #142 Top
What have I done thats so wrong?
Reply #143 Top
You get off the back of all the users here who enjoy using these products on windows machines. You don't like it? LEAVE!
Reply #144 Top
I will not have my day ruined on a site that I love by trolls.

and don't think a name change will hide you, I have your IP. I can get rid of you!






You gonna play nice now? eh?
Reply #145 Top
I was never on there back in the first place. Decides I can always come back.
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE.
I will not leave due to the fact I don't see what the problem is. It seems your the only one mad at me.
Reply #146 Top
prove you have my ip. (just curious how you did it cuz you would be the first, I wasn't trying to upset you)
Reply #147 Top
You gonna play nice?
Reply #148 Top
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. sorry man.
Reply #149 Top
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