If there was a clear day in sight, where we had the parties together, letting them know, March 10, 2010 we are gone, stable or not, I'd support sticking it out until then as best we could. But that is now what this is. "Stay the course" "we leave when the job is done" when hardly any progress is being made whatsoever, and it appears that things are only getting worse rather then better, to me that signals we aren't on the right path, that what we are doing is not right. -Wh
Dan Greene
"First, neither the President nor his administration stated that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks on 9/11." Dick Cheny has said it over and over, against the 9/11 report, against the pentagon. To this day he maintains it. When the President is asked who we are fighting in Iraq today, it's not a pure Iraqi insurgency it's AQ. Fox news got wind of it and ran with it and nobody has looked back since 2003. You tell me did we go into Iraq to rid WMD because there was a terro
"I have never voted in my life. First because I just didn't care for politics before. I had no interest in it. Last elections was because I didn't register ontime and was unaware I could have voted anyways." That's nobody's fault but your own. "I feel that voting for these current candidates (Republican or Democrat) is like picking the lesser of the bad guys. They all suck, they are all only interested in getting elected." You aren't alone I share your feeling and your
Agreed, nothing in the military is unsupervised, we have nukes. The question is was it supervised to the level required. I'd trust the air force, who obviously was tasked to fly the damn things, to do just that, the flying. Certainly that's smarter than having guys who just finished basic, or air force pilots, or anybody not trained in MP doing MP duties at Abu Gharib. Unsupervised, I can't belie
Guess the critics have finally been silenced for now
"you can't avoid a cruise missile that takes one hour to get to it's target and you have three hour notice it is on the way. why." You can't tell me there is any way UBL knew that a missile was on the way. There is no way to intercept that kind of information, unless the person who told the CIA told UBL and AQ as well. As I said, they were either not there, which is how I explain it, or the missile missed. Given the sophistication of the Tomahawk and the accuracy of military G
"I lived in New Orleans for four years. The world would be a better place if New Orleans had been erased. A more corrupt government and ignorant people I've never seen. KFC is fond of apololyptic stuff...honey...THIS is where God should strike first." Just like in Iraq, you vote for your own government and get what you vote for. In New Orleans they RE-Elected that sun of a bitch Nagin. Look what they got for it. People in the city still living in trailers, and the French Quart
"You're wasting your time daniel. Col is the king of contradictions and he now has a side-kick. Dan probably thinks that 2 heads are better than 1 but that's only true if both heads have a brain." I'm not a side kick to anybody Charles. Just because you chime in here with 2 sentences total doesn't mean your brain is working overtime on this issue. If you don't agree with my thoughts fine, but don't feel the need to criticize me by saying I'm some "sidekick" by not having the guts to bri
You can't avoid a cruise missile and the idea that AQ got an intel report telling them a cruise missile had been launched against, GIVING THEM TIME TO LEAVE THE BLAST RADIUS, is a hollywood type mind creation, and is ridiculous. They were either not in the right place, or the cruise missile missed. When did Clinton know about AQ? He knew about them in 1993 when they attacked the World Trade Center in 1993. When did he see the damage a terrorist attack could do inside the Unit
"The ironic thing is, if they do pull our troops out, and the killing fields that are sure to follow occur, you will still sit there on your pompous butt saying that it's our troops' fault." No that's not what he is saying at all, and it certainly isn't what I'm saying. Rather then cling to the position that we can never and never lose if we never leave. Maybe we should consider that we don't know what will happen if we leave. Certainly not anymore sure than we did when we inv
If intelligence is to be taken so literally and was so good before 9/11 how do you explain the intelligence fuck ups in Iraq. Namely... A. Lack of WMD B. Lack of WMD program C. Lack of firm and accurate proof of [AQ + Saddam] effectively working together against the US? D. Removal of Saddam but henceforth no reduction in violence/volatility in Israel between Hamas and Israel E. Full blown insurgency that has not "greeted us as liberators" Before you go
Lets sell our congress to Iraq, since they are so good at getting things done, elect a new congress, bring our troops home, have a big party, stop dumping money into Iraq and spend a few billion rebuilding New Orleans and a big fence between Mexico and the USA so we can shut Lou Dobbs up. Dan Greene for President!
We didn't start this business in Iraq. Saddam Hussein did in 1991. His invasion of Kuwait was condemned by the rest of the world in Gulf War I. We attacked and removed him from Kuwait and destroyed the bulk of his military presence as well as a significant portion of his ability to make war and operated a sophisticated soviet military style integrated air defense system. Recall we didn't do that all alone either, there was a huge coalition, and the majority of the world contributed aga
The casualty figures, though sad and depressing, are largely irrelevant to the policy issue. The surge may be working in Baghdad on some level as one would expect it, but Hillary Clinton is right when she says it's too little too late. That's about all she's right about by the way when it comes to Iraq. The American people, when they elected into congress a democratic majority, did so in the hopes that they would pull the troops from Iraq.
"re-engaging... Just to set the record straight, and to hopefully help YOU with reading comprehension, something you seem to be severely lacking in, it WAS MY BLACK FRIENDS THAT CALLED ME "MY NXXXXX" which is why I cut and pasted my whole reply so once again you can re-read it and see what an ass you are. You read things that are not there, then accuse me of making a racial slur which I did not. But In my 61 years of life I have garnered this much knowledge, someone who is as fast as you to cond
She's a racist, and full of herself yeah, and hypocritical even when confronted with it, as for getting people banned, in all honesty I could care less though. I do find it sad that they were banned. If that's true and if it was because of something she said or did though I would think that admins/moderators would have more guts and responsibility to just ban people who "Whip wants banned" LOL. Is that really the whole story Dr? "We have documented her lies." No shortage of tho
"consider me "disengaged" You are so considered. I was wondering where you went, you didn't seem to have much to add after making your point that you didn't think you were racially slurring anybody with the "N" word. All the same, have a nice weekend Moderateman.
"And in the future, why not grow a set of cojones and address me directly, instead of egging others on? Your last couple of pets managed to get themselves exiled, with you patting them on the back and feeding them 'attaboys' all the way out the door." Is "cojones" the kind of thing you talk about with your lady friends at the weed party Whip? Really is that the same kind of bravado that keeps you out square out of polite society and conjures terms like "bitch" in my mind when I think of
"'disadvantaged neighborhood'" Notice the retraction from "inner city" and "ghetto". Little Whip you're attempts at intimidation isn't going to go unnoticed here. By the way Dr. There was little to support her claim as well of a "pervasive" operation in Virginia. I did find this in my research. "Today, North Carolina is said to be one of the nation’s most active dog fighting venues. Virginia, say those inside and outside the fighting game, gets the overflow.
Is that Scooby Doo, Snoopy, forgive me if I can't name the rest, but lol.
I guessed they closed the search down today. CNN of course no where to be found, and for most of the last weeks, since the robot search plan was implemented. http://www.sltrib.com/ci_6778170 Very sad.
"I do not see his NFL status as contributing to his behavior in any way, dogfighting is pervasive in Virginia, perpetuated by the above mentioned ghetto-dwellers and inbred, tobacco chewing hicks as well." It's interesting I didn't see that comment for what it was earlier. I'll note now that, Vick's criminal dogfighting behavior and enterprise began in 2001, around the same time he was drafted #1 that year. As soon as he was able to finance it, and as soon as he was "top dog" he began h
I don't think the majority of minorities are looking for a hand out in our country. Maybe their PAC's are but I think people for the most part, just want to be treated equally, not overlooked when they are qualified, not singled out because they are a minority, and not discriminated against. There are some, who feel that they are owed because of histories ills, but that's just a crutch and a poor one at that. The longer people hold onto that kind of idea, the longer they hold themselves
"Unfortunately, there's not a response script submission form where we can submit our ideas for your pre-approval. Here's another fact. If you don't want people to write replies, turn off replies. If you leave it on, take what you get. You don't have to agree, but to suggest that we tailor our comments based on some notion of what YOU want us to say is impossible at best, since we aren't mind readers, and simply impertinent at worst." I don't think you need to tailor your responses. I a
In the future of this thread, I want you all to take a little more care with what you post in here. In regards to me, I have never defended dogfighting or anyone involved with it. To make it clear, I think such actions are both deplorable as well as disgusting. I think that all life should be respected and though animals will act on instinct and engage in fighting for dominance, I do not believe it should be man's role to bring them into a situation where they do that. Certainly not in a way whe