"Go ahead. It's from three years ago, but it's still listed as my number two article. Until you've READ it, you don't have valid reason to criticize." Yeah maybe I'll get around to it, "Maybe the racist by nature comment was slightly hyperbolic," I'm the one back peddling? I'll give you credit for acknowledgment of it's outrageousness and embellishment in describing the bulk of a state, or it's local communities. The fact that these racial intolerance escapa
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You have a Mary Kate article? Do you have a Avon one too? Avon lady calling, opps no mamn it's just me Gid. LOL I'm gonna fall out of my tree laughing at you guys, you are all a riot.
Look, Gid, First you said that... "If you imply Wisconsin is not a racist state, you are either a liar or blind. Open persecution of Hmongs is practically a statewide sport! And NEVER did I see the violent acts of racism I witnessed in Wisconsin." Which you later came back to say, Wisconsin is no more racist than anyplace else. "And how conveniently you miss the KKK rallies in Madison." Which I cited an article about how they were canceled due to public outcr
I wish I could get just one fully thought out response in on my own blog. I guess you just wanna take this little diversion you have right now and run it thorough.
What makes you believe that the shooting incident, involving the Hmong man, and the party of hunters was racially motivated? "Yes, and no. You need to understand that those Klansmen had children, and that many of those children were raised in that mindset. And they raised children in that mindset." Point taken. But a Klan that was a political force in 1930's isn't something that could be considered mainstream. The NSDAP in Germany was the political force that catapulted Hitler
Do get control of your ! points or I'm going to run for congress and pass a law as to using 2 or less consecutive "!" online. Thanks!!
"Because my point was and is that Wisconsin isn't on moral high ground here. I pointed out Wisconsin because you are FROM Wisconsin. If you were from Oregon, that would be my focus. The community where I live currently has the only active chapter of the KKK in the Texas Panhandle (there are other groups, but as far as the Klan, we're the base). I believe in rooting out racism wherever exists, even (and especially) when it hits close to home." Nobody is on high moral ground when
"No, you questioned my source, Dan. All I am doing is supporting the credibility of my source. And my sources are generally reliable." You say I questioned it when in fact I just utilized it to point out to you racism occurs nationwide, which we both agree on. I questioned your story about the woman with the racial slur on her car and a dead raccoon in her mailbox. "This is where I take issue. Dan, I provided you with the PHYSICAL PLACE where it happened. Because it wasn'
"The Klan wielded very powerful influence in the midwest at one time, even controlling the state of Indiana completely for a brief time in the 30's before corruption brought that government down." 1930's is too far gone for you to say that is it relevant. Those people old enough to have supported the clan are either dead, don't live in Indiana anymore, or aren't members of the clan. (because they are dead) "The only point I ever wanted to make in pointing out Wisconsin's racism
If you are just looking to read into the racial side of everything, all crimes, sure you will find race, but the majority or Wisconsinites are not "racist by nature" as you characterized. "I believe humans are by nature racist, Dan, and that Wisconsin is no exception. That doesn't mean that all humans are racist, just that the tendency is generally there. Wisconsin is in my experience, no more or no less racist than the rest of the nation. My only issue is when people from Wisconsin be
"Actually, the Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most authoritative sources on hate groups in America, Dan. Law enforcement agencies use their data in tracking hate groups. Again, this is something you would know if you had studied up much on it." I'm saying the KLAN IS HARDLY MAINSTREAM, not your intelligence thingy. Why do you always try to twist my meanings or are you just dense? "However, when I referenced racist activity I had personally witnessed in Oshkosh, you d
"But how would they even think of organizing if the Klan didn't EXIST in Wisconsin?" The clan is not the central driving force or even a segment taken very seriously by the youth of this country. Unless they are indoctrinated by their parents. As you can watch on Maury Povich, nobody looks to join the clan as an adult, just like 40 year olds don't start smoking. The reason people organize is because they know what the clan stands for and they don't want any part of it. Lots of
"No, Dan, you cannot. Despite what you think, there actually has to be damage done for a defamation suit. Nice try, though." Shucks I was just joking anyway, in the middle of punching gigantic holes in your theory of rampant Appletonian and Wisconsinite natural racist existence.
Here's some more research for ya... http://www.wrn.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=31FD7BA8-784C-4A8F-A53E3707B8F043EE "The Ku Klux Klan has apparently cancelled a rally scheduled for the Capitol steps this Saturday, but Wisconsin Klan spokesman Mike McQueeny says he won't personally call it off unless the Governor Thompson apologizes for his anti-Klan remarks and agrees to pay for the distribution of some Klan literature. But Governor's spokesman Kevin Keane says Thompson has no p
I checked out your RESEARCH SITE which you no doubt gathered from a Google search right? Let me guess, KKK + Wisconsin right, or maybe it was Wisconsin + KKK, yeah there is a group. Hardly what I'd call mainstream. According to this "Intelligence Project" Every single state in the nation has a racist group. Oh except the tiny and unpopulated ones like Hawaii, ND, SD, and ROAD ISLAND, <b
Here's some more "RESEARCH" For you Gid. http://www.advancetitan.com/story.asp?issue=11214&story=4511 An article written in 2005, detailing some of the issues and factors in the race problem in Oshkosh. A telling comment from the article is this, "I just want to be at a point where race isn’t even a thought. At some point it would be great to not have a Plan 2008 or little check boxes for my race." That is the world I would like to live in, and work towards. I
"Well, when the "N" word was put repeatedly on the woman's car and a dead raccoon dropped in her mailbox, I'd have a hard time thinking it had to do with the woman's fashion choices, Dan-O" Can't find a word of print anywhere about this. Amazing Are you sure it didn't come from "Gids Ass Daily Crescent"? It is amazing that nobody wrote about this at all. Nobody in... Appleton Grand Chute Kimberly Little Chute Kaukauna Combined Locks Wrights
"Ok, uh. Since I'm WHITE, I'd have to say the racial incidents haven't been directed at me, Dan. Do you have to be black to even OBSERVE racism now?" If Wisconsin is so racist you'd be a victim of racism no matter what your color not? Or would you like to describe it as "reverse racism" LOL. "Well, when the "N" word was put repeatedly on the woman's car and a dead raccoon dropped in her mailbox, I'd have a hard time thinking it had to do with the woman's fashion choices, Dan-O"
If it is such a racist and awful place why did you live here for the better part of a decade? Asking you to move to another country was a joke, but asking you to stop whining wasn't. "One tenth of one percent blacks and you brag about how little racism there is there? HAHAHAHAHA! There ain't no racism because it's a pretty damned homogenous community, dontcha think?" So what you are saying is there is and is not racism? I really don't understand why this is such an iss
"how do you tell the civilian wearing a bulls shirt from the non civilian wearing a bulls shirt. oh and they are both armed" What?
"If you want news articles, ask for news articles." I just did. "I am unaware of the vandalism event you describe nor can I find any record of it happening. Please show me a site if you will."
"Personal experiences often don't get on the news. If you want news articles, ask for news articles. If you want personal experience, you can't really ask for a source besides the source." In Wisconsin, that is the point, this kinda stuff does make news because it is not typical. Gid Neo-Nazi's are everywhere. That doesn't mean, that they constitute a majority of Appletonians, Wisconsinites, or that you aren't full of shit. "And I love your "love it or leave it" crap
You say 77,000 but that is bogus number. more civilians died in world war 2 than soldiers. That's right, because the militaries of the time did not discriminate between civilians and military targets because their weapons systems were not capable of doing it effectively. Today, in modern war, the military is much more able to do that. In urban warfare not so much, because you have a hard time avoiding civilian casualties because of the close proximity of the civilian
Why does this thing keep doing this? {Continued} The central question is, why is the administration making the case that AQ wins if we leave, when AQ is not responsible for the majority of the violence or the lack of progress in the government. They also don't claim Iraq as an AQ state if we leave, because Iraqis don't want them in power or intimidating their towns and villages anymore than they do in Afghanistan. The reason is the administration doesn't want to leave
"Oh yeah, 12 years of Hussein violating the ceasefire agreement was "rushing". Bah!" Thats what you say, but troops started moving in 2002, less than a year after 9/11, Americans were under threat of the DC snipers, Anthrax, ORANGE ALERT! All kinds of fear, daily hourly minute "Fox news alerts" of shit that could/would happen. What has happened in six years inside the United States AQ terrorist wise? Nothing. They have had no follow up attack that succeeded, no game plan for t