Anyone who commits suicide will have to come back and face the same kind of challenges in their next incarnation. The pain that their suicide caused to others can add to karmic debt to boot, so the challenges in their next incarnation might be magnified. To sit and ride the storm is the best thing to do. Even though from the personality’s point of view, to sit in despair, darkness and fear might seem like a bad option, from the soul’s point of view, it is the wisest option. Pain and suffering is only tempoary, and if you’re presently facing it, then your soul needs to face it, for one reason or another, otherwise you wouldn’t be facing it.

I have read some interesting spiritual books on the subject (do not ask me for the titles ect - this was years ago) and some of the explanations and suggestions and occurences that were put across were really interesting.

Your view point is one of those that always makes me say to myself - "I will not commit suicide because I will have to come back and face far worse, and I defintiely do NOT ever want to come back to this earth."

Having suffered with depression for so many years I have had only one instance where I felt compelled to commit suicide and instead of committing the act I wrote a book of poetry. My fear of having to come back here was greater than the will to end it. I lacked the courage needed to take ones life. I am glad I did though.

Could you imagine jumping off a bridge and one second after you have left the parapet realise you actually want to live? That must be so awful. Nothing you do right then can change the outcome.

Having suffered with depression for so many years I have had only one instance where I felt compelled to commit suicide and instead of committing the act I wrote a book of poetry

Poetry is a good way of expressing our spirituality in a positive manner, even if we’re venting negativity. It can push our negative energies out in a harmless way. Many of our world’s geniuses are ‘tormented souls’, who have a knack of expressing - or venting - their spirituality, which comes from the depth of their being, in the form of music, art or poetry. Their work is therefore a result of pure ‘soul stuff’, which naturally strikes a chord with the popular mind, and often includes their dark side - which we all have, incidentally, (we just need to learn how to deal with our darkness and negativity in the most harmless way possible.)

I will not commit suicide because I will have to come back and face far worse, and I defintiely do NOT ever want to come back to this earth

That’s right Jennifer. We can’t run away from our soul’s agenda. If we have karmic debts to pay off, or challenges to face, then we will have to experience them sooner or later. Our soul needs to experience certain grim things on earth because of its need for learning, growth and the accumulation of wisdom. Many growth-promoting experiences are unattainable in the Heavenly Estate, which is why we incarnate to earth. Whenever we face certain challenges in life, there’s no point jumping off bridges to escape them. We will only be forced to come back until we can conquer them with courage and integrity.

Our soul needs to experience certain grim things on earth because of its need for learning, growth and the accumulation of wisdom. Many growth-promoting experiences are unattainable in the Heavenly Estate, which is why we incarnate to earth. Whenever we face certain challenges in life, there’s no point jumping off bridges to escape them. We will only be forced to come back until we can conquer them with courage and integrity.

I feel very strongly that this is my last visit to the earth - i am by no means a perfect soul, I just do not believe I will come back, I am done, finished and had it with mankind! I will argue my out of coming back on th eother side. hahahah! Boy are they in for a hard time!   

Hmm...well, I didn't read over most of the other comments...I'm a busy, guy and there's over 50.

I believe a distinction should be made here between suicide and self sacrifice. Suicide, I believe, is usually negative...brought on by someone's messed up mind or their inner pain(whether it's understandable or they think life is so horrible). Self sacrifice is positive, and while I'm more than willing to die for someone I care about, I will not go hop off of a building because I had a bad day...or everything seems to suck. I'm spiteful when it comes to living...if the world pisses me off, I want to stick around and try to get even.

~Zoo

Hmm...well, I didn't read over most of the other comments...I'm a busy, guy and there's over 50.

not surprising it goes back to 28th oct 2005

...if the world pisses me off, I want to stick around and try to get even.

  

I feel very strongly that this is my last visit to the earth

Possibly. But we might be surprised at the vastness of the soul’s agenda. When we get to the Other Side I’m sure we’ll see that we’ve all got plenty of lifetimes ahead of us.

If we reach a place of unconditional love, (including love for our enemies, without our inner-harmony being disrupted by their evil ways or negative attitudes), and if we can experience a deep sense of inner peace, security, strength and positivity - regardless of external conditions and regardless of other people’s weaknesses or behaviour, whilst still getting stuck into the world (as opposed to meditating under a banyan tree all day), then we can safely say that we’ve no more need to incarnate again. But until then, there is much soul work to be done, much inner muscle to be built, and much spiritual wealth to be earned.

The soul won't rest until it becomes perfected eternally for God.

if we can experience a deep sense of inner peace, security, strength and positivity - regardless of external conditions and regardless of other people’s weaknesses or behaviour, whilst still getting stuck into the world

... we don’t have any choice over how we feel or react to life, just as a rose doesn’t have any choice as to whether it’s at the stem stage of growth, or the bud stage, or the blossoming stage. From what I’ve gathered, from reading books written by psychics, and according to my own intuition, we have about 20 lifetimes at each stage. (Naturally the ride gets easier the more incarnations we have)