it's obvious to me she's either stupid, crazy or weak. in other words...a woman

You just stepped into it BIGTIME.

Having been part of many military funerals, a few with political dignitaries, I can tell you, they are very professional and impersonal. A quick "I'm sorry for your loss", or "Thank you for your son/daughter's service" is about all there is time for from any one of them.

Unless you are the Lt. Gov of Pa.  Which kingbee seems to want all politicians to be.

if kerry had been killed in action on a swiftboat, one could have said the same things about him posthumously. he reenlisted. he volunteered for a mission with a very high incidence of casualties. he put himself in the line of fire to save a member of his crew.

None of that is true, except Kerry was there.

it's obvious to me she's either stupid, crazy or weak. in other words...a woman.

I didn't catch that one the first read through....are you sure you want to leave that comment?  I can assure you that this "woman" is neither stupid nor weak...I may be crazy, but that is in the eye of the beholder   Do you really think a sexist comment is going to strengthen your argument?  No, it doesn't- it just makes you look sexist.

 

 

Do you really think a sexist comment is going to strengthen your argument? No, it doesn't- it just makes you look sexist

i was summarizing the comments above that statement and taking them to their logical conclusion. i didnt make those comments. i wasn't the one who suggested she was incapable of rational thought, too dim to realize she was being manipulated nor unable to keep a husband or be a proper mother.

my only real mistake here was not recognizing her for the whore drguy proclaimed her to be in his thread.

(cmon karma, i realize sarcasm doesn't always translate well but...in context of the text following that statement, it should be fairly obvious to anyone who speaks english as a first language no?)

I can assure you that this "woman" is neither stupid nor weak

despite nearly 20 comments previous to mine in which that was suggested, i totally agree.

None of that is true, except Kerry was there

the only thing in that paragraph which isn't true--nor was i claiming it to be--is kerry's death in action.

time for your meds?

Very well said, Ted. Thanks for putting my thoughts into words, much more eloquently than I could have.

cmon karma, i realize sarcasm doesn't always translate well but...in context of the text following that statement, it should be fairly obvious to anyone who speaks english as a first language no?)

no.  I think Dr. guy read it like I did, considering his comment of: "You just stepped into it BIGTIME."

She knows what she is doing.  She's smart, and she's strong.  If anyone disagrees- they should think about how long she has kept this up and how much publicity she has gotten.

I don't agree with what she is doing at all, but I can't belittle the effort she has put into this.

I just read this article. Apparently, drmiler has now mandated that all users, regardless of whether their access is limited to library access or not, read all posts since their last logon before posting any articles or risk his scorn.

Good article, thatoneguy. Bad form, drmiler (I still say it's a safe bet this guy WAS a redneck).

I just read this article. Apparently, drmiler has now mandated that all users, regardless of whether their access is limited to library access or not, read all posts since their last logon before posting any articles or risk his scorn.

And just what in blue blazes are you talking about?

And as an aside, a question for you. Do you "even" know the "real" meaning of the word redneck?
Let me help ya!

One entry found for redneck. Main Entry: red·neck Pronunciation: 'red-"nek Function: noun 1 sometimes disparaging : a white member of the Southern rural laboring class

Note that nowhere does it say ignorant, stupid or any other disparging term.

No problemo Ted, your comments are always welcome on my blog.

And just what in blue blazes are you talking about?

You know damned good and well what I'm talking about! The fact that you held me accountable for the content of THIS article, despite the fact that I hadn't READ the thing, in my other article that addressed the same news story.

So, which was this guy NOT? Was he not Southern? Was he not rural? Was he not working class? Anyway, the word is a slang term, really, regardless of how many dictionary definitions you put up. Why don't you sue Jeff Foxworthy before you come after us for using the term?

Jeff Foxworthy before you come after us for using the term?

Because he's just an idiot. Granted he's an idiot who's making money off of sterotyping but an idiot none the less.

You know damned good and well what I'm talking about! The fact that you held me accountable for the content of THIS article, despite the fact that I hadn't READ the thing, in my other article that addressed the same news story

And NO I didn't. I held you accountable for the content of "YOUR" article not this one. And if you took the time to notice I made the same comments here too. See reply #59. What I find contempable is that you and other people use the term "redneck" as someone to be looked down upon as being slow dull-witted, ignorant. The term as you saw from the definition is nothing more than descibing a rural, hard working southerner. Originally it meant a farmer whose neck was red from working out in the sun! The term you should be using is "ignorant cracker".

drmiler,

You're splitting hairs, plain and simple. For the record, in MY article, I actually didn't refer to the man as a "redneck" anyway...I asked where the rednecks were that had lobbied so hard against flag desecration and who speak out about dishonoring the troops and disrespecting the cross. My point was, and is, valid.

What I find contempable is that you and other people use the term "redneck" as someone to be looked down upon as being slow dull-witted, ignorant.

I did NOT use that term as someone to nbe looked down upon, OR as slow, dull-witted or ignorant. YOU just did EXACTLY what you're accusing me of, by stereotyping me based on a single use of the word.

IF you'll note...there is a limit to the amount of words one can use in one's title. The title must be concise, must capture the spirit of the article, and, in order to be READ, MUST draw in readers. This means it must be overly simplistic at times and must by necessity omit MUCH pertinent information. You KNOW this. You've been on JU long enough.

The reason MY hackles are raised was that first, you automatically lumped me in with the "they" that had already had this conversation in comment one of MY article, and second, and most importantly, because you HIJACKED a worthy article by splitting hairs over one SINGLE WORD in the title! I will say it again, drmiler, this was COMPLETELY beneath you!

I did NOT use that term as someone to nbe looked down upon, OR as slow, dull-witted or ignorant. YOU just did EXACTLY what you're accusing me of, by stereotyping me based on a single use of the word.

Now who's splitting hairs? Please try to tell me that you did not use the term in a disparging way. Go see dr guy's reply on your thread.

has anyone found out anything about the 'murderer' thing yet? There was a lot of back-and-forth about it, and I found a quote with her using the word. Are we disputing the quote, or was it not a 'swing and a miss'?

has anyone found out anything about the 'murderer' thing yet? There was a lot of back-and-forth about it, and I found a quote with her using the word. Are we disputing the quote, or was it not a 'swing and a miss'?

Depends on how you want to look at it. If you want an "actual" quote from her then it's most likely a swing and miss. If you believe the quote then it's dead on.

She knows what she is doing. She's smart, and she's strong. If anyone disagrees- they should think about how long she has kept this up and how much publicity she has gotten. I don't agree with what she is doing at all, but I can't belittle the effort she has put into this.

Good point Karma. I didn't belittle her at all until her "Mickey Mouse" comment. She is apparently loving the photo ops and media attention. I don't think she is a weak woman at all, I just think she wants to world to pity her... Sad that she mistakes that for respect.

Her right to protest will always be respected by me, he revelling in her new found celebrity will always earn my distain. The message she is trying to convey to the rest of the troops, their and their families will always disgust me. How she must be bolstering the terrorists in Iraq will always infuriate me.

I kinda doubt that the Quote supplied by baker was from a valid news source. (no offense Baker, i just doubt a lot of things that i hear from the far left, as much as i doubt things from the far right)

On my way home from dinner tonight i drove by City Hall, and smack dab through our local Cindy rally. I honked my support!

If we are still in search of the elusive valid source of Miss Cindy accusing Prs. Bush of murdering her son, here's one straight from Miss Cindy's words...

And it looks like my son's murder and the murder of almost 1,800 other Americans and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis whose only crime is that they were born in Iraq at the wrong time, are dead -- are dead for the agenda of the neo-con war machine.http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/3078

Of course it is on a Left Wing website, so take that for what you will, but the quote itelf is from her.

If we are still in search of the elusive valid source of Miss Cindy accusing Prs. Bush of murdering her son, here's one straight from Miss Cindy's words...

And it looks like my son's murder and the murder of almost 1,800 other Americans and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis whose only crime is that they were born in Iraq at the wrong time, are dead -- are dead for the agenda of the neo-con war machine.http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/3078

Of course it is on a Left Wing website, so take that for what you will, but the quote itelf is from her.

no. I think Dr. guy read it like I did, considering his comment of: "You just stepped into it BIGTIME."

karma, did you read comment#39 in its entirety? i really have a difficult time--considering the litany of quoted sentiments preceding my statement, not to mention my suggestion all she needed was a strong husband to get her some paxil--imagining anyone other than drguy being confused as to my true feelings about ms sheehan.

to be sure, i've been wrong before (as often as not for overestimating the public). but even if this is one of those occasions, my expasperation with all those who were providing excuses for ms sheehan's actions (which as you can see from the quotes i provided fall into three categories: weak, stupid, crazy) surely shoulda been obvious by the end of the next paragraph.

, I just think she wants to world to pity her

why is is so difficult for yall to consider she is motivated by her anger and grief to make the people of this country see the war through her eyes? have you never been so outraged by some issue you've felt yourself compelled to do something to correct it? isn't it possible she could care less how people see her or think of her as long as she causes them to think about the reasons her son and other american's sons, brothers, daughters, sisters, moms, dada, friends and loved ones are dying in iraq?

i guess it's easier for you to deal with her by simply dismissing her as misguided or making excuses for her in an attempt to demean her and devalue her message even as you nobly claim to support her right to deliver it.