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US is going to war tomarrow... dang...

US is going to war tomarrow... dang...

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Reply #1501 Top
Where I am in Maryland, USA, prior to the war it was getting more and more exspensive. I would say it rose 15 cents per gallon!

It has dropped off only slightly though after the war started. I too, expected it would go higher.

Didn't Saudi Arabia sort of release extra barrels of oil, to help take care of any loss felt of Iraqi oil during this war? If so, that could be your answer.
Reply #1502 Top
BTW, have you noticed a drop in gas in your country too? US, Europe, Asia, Australia? Just curious.
Reply #1503 Top
Maybe I should convert my price in gallons so US people understand a bit more how much 15 cents per litre is a big difference.
Before the war, prices did increase a bit indeed, to go all the way up to the equivalent of $3,36/gallon, and now it's droped to the equivalent of $2,80/gallon. More than 55 cents per gallon less.
Reply #1504 Top
That is a rather big difference. We still only pay around 1.59 a gallon, it had rose to around 1.80 before the war.
Reply #1505 Top
Paxx....yes, the same is evident in Australia....and just keep an eye on the stock market....seems there are plenty reaping profits from this war...hence its reason for being...
As the oil reserves become more closely under Western control/protection so the availability improves, therefore prices drop.
Good old supply and demand.
The demand is the same, but the supply is more 'reliable'...
Reply #1506 Top
SA and the rest said that they would increase production during the war to prevent a shortage of oil. They did, and in addition there were stern warnings about price gouging to retailers. Not only did the price not go up, it dropped. Now that oil is cheap, the oil producing nations in the middle east are worried about an oil glut and they are discussing dropping production.

At least that was the talk on CNBC yesterday. I'm sure there are more scary, clandestine reasons floating around...
Reply #1507 Top
Average price per litre in Oz is around A$1.00 per litre, depending on the time of the day, week, or holiday periods! >
Ballpark numbers, US$00.70 per litre, or US$3.15 per Imperial gallon (round numbers 4.5 litres per gallon) and that's not for premium grade either.......if I remember correctly the 'US Gallon' is around 3.15 litres?????
Whatever, Iraq is not being fought over with oil as the number 1 priority, it's all to do with longer term strategic positioning and short term publicity for the present administration.

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Reply #1508 Top
I think those figures were a little off?
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785412 liter
Reply #1509 Top
Gasoline pricing in some respects can be like the stock market. That is, often prices are raised before there is any "real" circumstance such as reduced supply and/or increased demand. They're raised just in the anticipation of such potential conditions. When supply was assured, the prices went down.

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The pricing is manipulated for nefarious and clandestine reasons....absolute power currupts absolutely...
It stinks enough that price rises locally occur just prior to a holiday period...and systematically appropriate times during a working week.
On a global scale it can have the potential to stifle a recalcitrant economy for the benefit of others.
It ain't done for fun, but for political/economic ends...
Reply #1511 Top
Gas prices here went up 40 cents a gallon the day that a barrel of oil went up 40 cents. When oil went down $2 a barrel I was hoping for the best unfortunately gas hasn't gone down at all. It's currently $1.98 a gallon. When I was in California last week I paid between $2.11 and $2.20 for regular.

sig - I think I got confused about the VX incident. My memory from that period is kind of fuzzy and I think I put two incidents together. I think the VX thing was in Cambodia sometime in '69 maybe. I vaguely remember it was a "test" of some new chemical and was used on a VC convoy or something. As I recall there was no casualty info and I think I mixed it up in my head with the CNN incident.

It wasn't long after that that I had my first dose of one of their new gasses in Washington DC. I think it was called CS, it was pink, like gasoline and it had a crystaline structure, left crystals all over my camera lens. Made me appreciate how ugly gas is and I thought about the VX stuff which was also something new.

Reply #1512 Top
we got Tax going skywards

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National Insurance also on the up

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Reply #1514 Top
I did say I was a bit hazy .... never can figure that one out!
One 'gallon' should be the same all over, rather like one litre being one litre!
Rather like the US 'ton' equalling 1000 pounds when an Imperial 'ton' is 2240 pounds.
Didn't much go for metrication when it first was introduced out here but it's really very logical ....


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A litre is a litre, the world over...except the Yanks like to call it 'liter', but being a French standard its naming should be, likewise....

Imperial gallons vs US gallons are different....but a US ton is 2000lb, and a short ton is 2200lb and a tonne is 1000 kg, as I recall...
Reply #1516 Top
Speaking of CS this is an interesting article: Chemical Hypocrites http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,931873,00.html

as is this: India's pre-emptive strike remark http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=42760333

and this!: China steps up preparation for U.S. conflict http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31931

and a look at the Arab opinion: Fury and depression http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,932747,00.html

Certainly looks like a Brave New World to me... who needs diplomacy or international cooperation when you have the guts to "do something" as most people here are so proud to acclaim.

Thank you Mr Bush... now lets close some more schools so we can afford another 100 billion to keep protecting us from evil and danger...
Reply #1517 Top
you'll need to paste the leftover bits on the first and last links to see them.
Reply #1518 Top
When I say "education", I don't mean schooling and the like, but (argh, how am I going to explain this) getting people to see the world outside their own domain. People in country A or group B tend to have certain views of people in country C or group D, which are often totally wrong.

To stick close to home, take the way city folk and country folk view each other.

With "education", I mean peircing through that veil of ignorance.
Reply #1520 Top
Here, Here. DavidK. No more U.S. blood and money for other countries problems. Let them solve their own disputes among themselves. Where is the terrorist army that was going to invade the U.S. anyway? >
Reply #1521 Top
http://www.thisislondon.com/til/jsp/modules/Article/print.jsp?itemId=4263150

"......The mood of wild euphoria among the five million-strong population of Baghdad was mixed with menace. One man waved an AK47 in the air as he shouted: "Liberty, Liberty. This is the day we have been waiting for for years and years."

Marines were showered with flowers during their unopposed street-by-street approach towards the regime's last stronghold on the east bank of the Tigris. Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said: "It looks as though we may be towards the close of hostilities."

Reply #1522 Top
"Human shields go home"

So we're all watching the news on IPTV this morning and we see a huge "Human shields go home" banner being carried by several IRAQI's in the central circle in Baghdad. We haven't laughed that hard in some time.

That should put things in perspective...
Reply #1523 Top
The idea of human shields was very noble... as sometimes noted though, noble isn't always the best choice. while they were there they found that the Saddam government only wanted them to go to military targets and oil fields. Some were rightfully upset about it and others felt if there were more human shields maybe it would have worked out.


I don't think the number of 'shields' would have changed Saddam's approach on how to use them. I haven't heard much from the human shield side of this and there experiences on the news.


Now didn't I say that week 3 will be the week to watch? Now week 4 begins. Few things will happen. Week 5 is another week to watch.



Funny:
While I was taking a test, I couldn't get this song out of my head. It was that Justin Timberlake song... Rock you body or something... anyway, while it was playing in my head I changed the words (all this while taking this hard test)

Here it is---
Don't be so quick to capitulate
I want to blow up your government
everyday
....

Talk to me Saddam-
Your not loosing fast enough
your taking to long

Talk to me Saddam-
I'm gonna have you blown up
By the end of this song


do do do
dodo doo doo do do
do do do
dodo doo doo do do


Such a violent remix if you ask me. Must be releaving stress.
Reply #1524 Top
i hope that we're screening the exiled iraqi would-be power brokers that we're allowing back over. the fact that saddam did not like them doesn't automatically qualify them as a good person.
Reply #1525 Top
I'm wondering where all the people who said the Iraqi people hated us and didn't want to be liberated went... got awfully quiet. They may hate us, but they seem to be pretty satisfied with the 'liberated' part.