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Rips - A discussion

Rips - A discussion

Over recent months, I have noticed an alarming rise in copyright theft amongst the skinning community. It only takes a quick look through this very message board to find numerous reports of unauthorised modification and redistribution of WindowBlinds skins, icons and wallpapers.

It's really encouraging to see that skinning is becoming an everyday part of computer use and, as Frogboy tells us time and time again, skinning is constantly on the rise. It seems however that this public exposure has a downside. As more people discover skinning, so the 'ripping' trend continues to grow.

I have to admit that a large factor in my decision to stop skinning was the fact that I had little or no control over the use of my work once it had been released to the public. I got tired of finding threads on various boards around the net where people were simultaniously bad-mouthing me while ripping my skins and passing them off as their own. I'm sure I'm not alone.

So what can we as skinners do about copyright theft? There has to come a point when we can no longer chase those who steal our work, as the situation grows beyond our capacity to monitor it. It's obvious that much of the problem stems from a lack of education and information on the subject, as it's a commonly held misconception that anything you find on the Internet is free to use as you wish. We obviously need to find a way to spread the message that copyright theft is a crime. It's common sense that stealing physical property is theft, so why not digital property?

Is there any way for us to actively protect our work? Digital watermarking goes some way toward settling disputes over ownership, but such techniques hardly lend themselves to skins which often contain large numbers of tiny images.

I'd like to hear any ideas you have on the issue, and perhaps we can start to find a way out of this mess before it truly gets out of hand.
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Reply #51 Top
Man, 50 comments read. I'm a little behind..

Watermarking site -> http://www.digimarc.com/solutions/default.asp

It's been a while since I checked out their site. It's a little diffrent from the last time. But this site is where you would register a watermark, well you get like alot of uses depending on which one you buy. You would use your paint program, add the digital watermark, and it logs it with this site. From there, you can track the use of the image anywhere on the web. If somebody posts it, it will find it. It's pretty cool if you have the money to do your images and if your planning on doing alot of images. I was looking into it a while ago for my stuff. I also found a way with creating a layer in the paint program and making it almost so faint that you can't see it and post the info on your pic that way. But that's mostly used for photos. Well, this is what I know of so far.

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Reply #52 Top
No matter what you do anything published on the net is going to be subject to theft. If you can't deal with that then stay offline! What we can do is use the power of the community against offenders at every opportunity. We've seen already in many cases an e-mail from Jafo has sorted problems. What we can do as a community is seek out perpetrators ourselves and bring our weight to bear on them. Some people are always going to ignore the rights of others, that's the way the world is, but given enough pressure from us they will eventually buckle.

Remember, rippers are sad people with no talent of their own. That's why they steal the work of others. There is nothing worse for such people as to be publicly exposed for what they are - cheats and thieves.


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Reply #53 Top
Well said, Fuzzy !

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Reply #54 Top
I say, let's round them up and flog them

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Reply #55 Top
yes... I agree with fuzzy... 100% also I like the idea of going into the message boards and making mention of the problem... seeing if we can get anything done there.... I may check th message boards tomorrow... but at the moment I am slightly inebriate... so we will find out tomorrow exactly what I can do

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Reply #56 Top
I think one has to separate concepts of material, shape, etc., from what we consider capable of being 'ripped'. Right now, if i went back and re-did a couple of my older skins, i would doubtlessly be accused of ripping newer stuff. I have an old skin that looks a lot like a site theme here. There is skin at devart right now that looks like about 3 of my old ones put together. How will I fare if i ever start skinning again and bring them back?

In order for our rights to be taken seriously, we have to stop the 'lynch-mob-interruptus' that happens from time to time. When you go to the store, you see a lot of stereos that look alike. You see a lot of cameras, blenders, firearms or office supplies that share the same material, functionality, or even style.

We have to remember that not everything we make can be claimed as 'ours'. You can't copyright or an idea, or a common material like rubber, wood, or steel (though their production might be patentable). You really can't copyright a 'style', or design trends like Art Deco, Art Nouveau, Bauhaus, or Rococo would never have existed as concepts. In order for people like Frank Lloyd Wright and Walter Gropius to have been influential someone had to be influenced by them and emulate them in some way.

In short, to make people take 'protecting your rights' seriously, you have to make certain the rights you are protecting are valid. Someone, sometime, is gonna have to sue someone else. It has to happen eventually. Let's just not forget that 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery' and people who steal your graphics should get the chair