Best Late Game Demigods

I recently talked with one of my mates who are the best late game DGs for Catarct. My personal list goes like this

 

1. Erobus

Strong in flag capping and holding , just use mass charm cap and go. Furthermore Bat Swarm II or III provides superior ability to flee and chase enemy DG. Only his "lack" of Area Damage is a significant con.

2. Oak

Because with shield ur not interruptable Oak is very nice for flag capping and holding and ur somehow just unkillable if u have a port or potion with u. Shout is very nice to interrupt enemy DGs whily they r trying to cap a flag or try to use potions and ports.

3. Beast

Just the fact of his superior damage dealing ability hes perfect to hold a lane, killing minions and killing demigods. The instant stun helps btw very good interrupting DG while they r trying to cap flags or use ports etc

4. Torch

Just like Beast Damage output above level 15 on torch with ice and fire is perfect to help ur minions passing their way to the enemy citadelle. Also his 2 interrupts can help alot holding and capturing enemy flags.

 

What do u think? Who ur best lategame DG on cataract ?

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Reply #1 Top

I wouldnt have put Torch there but helping minions is a fair point

The other 3 are relatively obvious but another I found was Sedna. Late game her HP/sec can be over 100 and she can passively upgrade her speed. She can push towers with ease and simply heal up if it gets too heavy

Reply #2 Top

Depends on the items.

Reply #4 Top

Quoting _Golgoth_, reply 1
The other 3 are relatively obvious but another I found was Sedna. Late game her HP/sec can be over 100 and she can passively upgrade her speed. She can push towers with ease and simply heal up if it gets too heavy
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I agree.  I have played a number of games in which she appeared virtually indestructible by late game (15 lvl or so).

Reply #5 Top

a pounce sedna late game can 1v1 anything and she is fast as fuck for capping flags/helping allied portals.

 

tb is useless late game. his damage doesn't stack well after lvl 10 and he'll always have low health. ub is great at 15+ for his dmg minigation.

 

an assassin ere gets weaker late game because none of the artifacts help him increase his dmg as well as they do for other demigods. dont get me wrong hes powerful but you'll notice a fast curving off of how much dmg you are inflicting. however a minion ere will not notice anything.

 

 

Reply #6 Top

I worked it out

Sedna (on her own) can have 186HP per second regen making her the terminator :cylon:   When she is below 30% health as long as you have her level 15 ability this increase to 236HP per second ^^

That is with artifacts though. Mind you by level 8 or 9 its very easy for Sedna to have about 70Hp/sec not including a 900Hp heal and a 600 damage pounce ;)

You dont have to buy artifacts to make her nails though :borg:

But yes by level 15 she is virtually unkillable

Reply #7 Top

Quoting _Golgoth_, reply 6
I worked it out

Sedna (on her own) can have 186HP per second regen making her the terminator   When she is below 30% health as long as you have her level 15 ability this increase to 236HP per second ^^

I worked it out

Sedna (on her own) can have 186HP per second regen making her the terminator   When she is below 30% health as long as you have her level 15 ability this increase to 236HP per second ^^

That is with artifacts though. Mind you by level 8 or 9 its very easy for Sedna to have about 70Hp/sec not including a 900Hp heal and a 600 damage pounce

You dont have to buy artifacts to make her nails though

But yes by level 15 she is virtually unkillable

End of _Golgoth_'s quote

256 HP per second with a free choice of artifacts? That sound real nice untill you realize that UB wil be doing by my rough calculations 1,6 k DPS on that level. This isn't the highest achievable BTW, just me picking a couble of the most obvious choices and going to town. Sedna is actually weak in the extreme endgame when artifacts come into play because 1K pounces and 1,5 K heals don't stand up very well to 2K autoattack crits.

Reply #8 Top

TB isn't very good at going toe to toe with enemy demigods lategame, but the ability to destroy the entire enemy army mobbing your citadel can be vital to make a comeback.


Likewise, Sedna's speed + regen means she can just dash accross the map to capture portals- which is of course, the only thing that matters in the extreme endgame.

 

Reply #9 Top

I am talking about very late game ... Level 15 with giants incoming etc. and max 1 Artefact.

From my personal experience Sedna just makes sense in this stage of gameplay if she is damn fast, trying to cap flags or just be everywhere in a matter of seconds. Defending citadelle with her is pretty much useless.

Torch is like Dielan said, very usefull in defending Citadelle and helping your army, i recently played a game where our citadelle was almost down, but i could prevent any further damge by using maxed out rain of ice and fire nova rapidly (staff of renewl). I ended up making 1.000.000 Damage and a nice comeback for our team.

As for Regulus, i find him useless unless he has arshcandor and maxed out angelic fury. Having no stun and no interrupt is pretty much weak.

 

 

 

Reply #10 Top

UB.

Acclimation.

-40% damage taken

Ooze

-40% attack speed AoE

Reply #11 Top

Quoting abuggeredhedgie, reply 10
UB.

Acclimation.

-40% damage taken

Ooze

-40% attack speed AoE
End of abuggeredhedgie's quote

Need to take over 500 damage first before you get the -40% :P

Oh and the note about the Sedna, I was just mucking about and wanted to tell some-one lol

Sedna is very hard to kill past level 5 really, but Ive never actually seen a game with more than one artifact where there was no flithy rich or AIs so Im assuming its 15-20 1 max artifact

Reply #12 Top

Quoting _Golgoth_, reply 11

Quoting abuggeredhedgie, reply 10UB.

Acclimation.

-40% damage taken

Ooze

-40% attack speed AoE

Need to take over 500 damage first before you get the -40%

Oh and the note about the Sedna, I was just mucking about and wanted to tell some-one lol

Sedna is very hard to kill past level 5 really, but Ive never actually seen a game with more than one artifact where there was no flithy rich or AIs so Im assuming its 15-20 1 max artifact
End of _Golgoth_'s quote

Well, I'm assuming this is the multi-artifact (or at least, Akshandor artifact) stage.

Reply #13 Top

UB
acclimation + ooze are the 2 best late-game abilities in the game
he also gains more stats per level than most demigods, AS WELL as having highest move speed
most of his abilities scale (are percentage based) rather than a set value = gets more powerful late game

Rook
gains the most stats per level out of all the demigods
if you take slam build with stats to finish off, can become very powerful (0 towers, 0 transfer, lvl 2 roll only -> 6 in stats) = highest base stats of any demigod + a 2k nuke = pewpew

Erebus
with armor and lifesteal stacked, you won't be able to take his hp down AT ALL (bite to negate your skill damage) + his minions will still wreck you (due to bite) even if you have 50% mitigation through armor

Oak
penitence + surge scale well

Sedna
heals never become useless



I played ice TB a lot, and even if you outlevel your opponents, he is still weak.

So bad late-game = QoT, Reg, TB imo (very low stats per level)
Unfortunately, these heroes are also pretty crap early game too xD

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edit: egads double post

Reply #15 Top

Had an epic game on Exile where the team of 3 UB controlled all of the flags and pushed my team of 2 Oaks and a Reg back to our Cit with giants and everything, but massacring all of those creeps and not being able to spend on our own creeps gave us the opportunity to purchase several artifacts while we leveled like mad, and before long, our Oak army was invincible and marched back to their Cit and clobbered it while ignoring their attacks.

 

Oak is great late game.  

Reply #16 Top

Quoting Rav3nIX, reply 15
Had an epic game on Exile where the team of 3 UB controlled all of the flags and pushed my team of 2 Oaks and a Reg back to our Cit with giants and everything, but massacring all of those creeps and not being able to spend on our own creeps gave us the opportunity to purchase several artifacts while we leveled like mad, and before long, our Oak army was invincible and marched back to their Cit and clobbered it while ignoring their attacks.

 

Oak is great late game.  
End of Rav3nIX's quote

You're pretty bold (or crazy) playing against 3 UBs.:grin:    In most games that I play in, 2 UBs are not allowed on the same team.

Reply #17 Top

its ROOK...period

destroy the side 2 towers and when reach lv 7to 10, stuck at middle with few supports and you can just go through the enemy citadel. You think Torch bearer will be good for late game but actually not. It doesn't kill that much giants

Reply #18 Top

dps wins late game.

majority of the time meaning UB and Oak. but then again it all dpends on an indivduals build.

Reply #19 Top

BUT ITS NOT OAK THOUGH.

Health all-in beast vs. artifact , critical Regulus

Beast wins

Reply #20 Top

1.UB

2.Erebus

3.Sedna

4.Oak

Reply #21 Top

THe biggest Sedna factor I see is healing wind on creep waves...  sedna + 6 never dying giants is pretty buff

Reply #22 Top

Late game sedna is very good at getting/keeping portals. If you need to relock a portal your enemy are camping you just silence before casting lock = guaranteed success and likewise if your enemy is trying to relock a portal you have silence to delay it a sec (and I think it will interupt) and pounce as another interupt.

Reply #23 Top

Oak is the best. UB's acclimation is amazing but Ooze's attack speed reduction is additive, not multiplicative, so when peope are going from 170% attack speed down to 130% it's not a true 40% damage loss.

Oak just has everything. Minions, +damage from skills, the most effective interrupts, a scaling % damage debuff, an AoE movement/attack speed debuff to make sure his reinforcements win and to make sure his minions get more out of +damage items than you see on the tooltip, there's just no comparison.

Personally I think Sedna is awful late game. He damage is poor and she has no AoE to speak of. Minion swarms crush her and she just doesn't have that many tricks. Sedna is very much a what you see is what you get type of DG.

I'm not especially impressed with EB late game unless he's outfarmed everyone. AoE and reinforcement damage eventually outpace his minions' HP and they don't naturally avoid damage the way spirits do. That isn't to say he's weak, I just think that Oak and UB eclipse him when artifacts come into play.

Reply #24 Top

Quoting Obscenitor, reply 23
I'm not especially impressed with EB late game unless he's outfarmed everyone. AoE and reinforcement damage eventually outpace his minions' HP and they don't naturally avoid damage the way spirits do. That isn't to say he's weak, I just think that Oak and UB eclipse him when artifacts come into play.
End of Obscenitor's quote

I tend to agree; Oak and UB are the Demigods I avoid once the game has reached the point of Artifact stacking. Oak can just desimate the creeps, and late game Pent. allows Oak to reach some DPS levels that are just insane. Unclean Beast is a difficult fight, however it's possible; with Oak I usually have to gang up on him as in a 1v1 as a Minion Erebus I just get murdered. I don't think it's overpowered, Oak has a skewed progression; his Early Game is a little weaker than the other Demigods - I find him fairly easy to bully around the lanes till about level 10 or so, where he really comes into his own.

Reply #25 Top

You dont use Sedna on her own though she doesnt go for creeps she goes for kills

Same with Erebus

But yeh Oak and Unclean are the best

Other 4 Demigods need some buffing methinks