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We Are Sliding Into Moral Madness

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We Are Sliding Into Moral Madness

And It's About To Get Worse!

from JoeUser Forums

Well here we go again.  Ready for the next slippery ride down the slope as we progress further into moral chaos?  Can't say you haven't been warned. 

Months ago I brought up the fact that in Colorado a new law was being tossed around that gave special public accommodation protections to people who identify as either a transgender or homosexual.  We discussed at the time how this was going to cause confusion in the locker rooms and rest rooms.   

Men would be able to go into woman's restrooms and ladies into men's locker rooms as they so feel like it.  It has to do with gender association or expression.  So if a female feels like a male that day and identifies better with the male side of her self she has every right to go into the men's bathroom and vice versa.  Of course it doesn't take Einstein to figure out this is going to open up a whole nuther can of nuts.  In fact, the nuts will be in the restroom next to you now and there's nothing you can do about it. 

It was hard enough to let our kids use the public restrooms then, what about now? 

In Colorado the Christians geared up for a fight to stop this from happening by placing ads in the local media on what this would look like in reality.  The social problems galore that would follow by allowing such a law.   The liberal governor and legislature of course denied these claims making it out that the conservatives were just a bunch of liars.  Of course isn't that how they always retort back when they have no leg to stand on?   The proponents for this bill  said things like this:

"has nothing at all to do with allowing one gender in another gender's restrooms."

"I do not see any basis whatever for an assertion that the bill requires that men be admitted to women's bathrooms or vice versa."

Now months later guess who has egg on their faces?  Not the conservatives who did everything they could, unsuccessfully I might add,  to stop this bill from becoming law.  Too late now.  The liberals got their way.  Let the reaping begin. 

Now a state agency has issued regulations to enforce this new law and it looks exactly as predicted NOT by the loony left but by the ones who fought tooth and nail against it. 

So who are the liars now?   The state of CO is mandating that all businesses and most nonprofit organizations in the state are required to allow transgendered people-under a very vague definition- to use whichever restroom or locker room they choose. 

The same thing is happening in New Hampshire. 

My husband printed off the new bill up for vote in NH because he just couldn't believe what he had heard from an editorialist.  He had to check it out for himself.   It's called HB-415.   It says:

              STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

     In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Nine

AN ACT adding certain terms regarding non-discrimination to the laws.

Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

1 New Section; Statutory Construction; Gender Identity and Expression.  Amend RSA 21 by inserting after section 50 the following new section:

21:51 Gender Identity and Expression.  "Gender identity or expression" means a gender-related identity, appearance, expression, or behavior of an individual, regardless of the individual's assigned sex at birth.

It goes on to say that this new Gender Identity and Expression will be put next to  age, sex, race, creed, color, marital status, familial status, physical or mental disability or national origin anti discrimatory laws. 

Do you understand what this means?  It means if I feel like being a woman one day and a man the next, according to the state, I'm allowed to use either men's rooms or women's rooms according to how I wish to express myself that day.  It doesn't matter what sex I was born as.  I can be male or female now according to the law because what I think or feel.......I am.   It's freedom of expression all the way baby! 

So how does this manifest itself?  Glad you asked.  Here's a few examples from the latest newsletter I get from CO:

*A female encountered a man in a women's restroom in a local airport.

*A teen girl saw a man in a women's restroom at a Colorado Springs Wal-Mart and he exposed himself to her.

*Two teenage girls discovered a man undressing in a women's locker room in a Denver area fitness facility.  Which makes me wonder about Curves.  What are they going to do with this new law?  They can't discriminate.  If a man wants to use the Curves facility they will have to allow this to happen.

*A mother and daughter in a Colorado mall bathroom were intruded upon by a man in his 20's with a red-dyed Mohawk who spent several minutes in the ladie's room. 

Well one things for sure.....it's sure going to mess up the whole "the wife should submit to her husband" thing now isn't it?  Maybe they'll trade places as they deem fit and take turns being the boss man. 

Gah! 

 

 

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting KFC, reply 24
NEWSBREAK UPDATE!

You're not going to believe this one........or maybe you should the way things have been progressing in government these days.

When the bill came up for a vote, it was rejected with the idea that perverts would take advantage of this law.

Well that didn't last.  I guess the Speaker of the House put on a grand ol' speech dripping with emotion and they decided to re-vote. 

Guess what?

This time it passed.  By one vote.  Voting on emotion.  Every time.  That's the name of the game now. 

Moms in NH beware and check the bathrooms before you send your little girls into the girl's room.

 
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You know, I know there is a compromise somewhere here. The people in question should, in my opinion, be given the right/privilige to enter into the bathrooms; however, I understand the concern of the parents, et al. Something that comes to mind is that parents, perhaps, should accompany their children into the bathroom. That's what my mother did.

 

~Alderic

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

I understand the concern of the parents, et al. Something that comes to mind is that parents, perhaps, should accompany their children into the bathroom. That's what my mother did.

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maybe that's why I'm starting to see around here family bathrooms?  Not sure who exactly is supposed to use them....dads and moms with young kids? 

But how old does the child have to be before mom lets them go in by themselves?  My son and I were discussing this last night.  He told me he had just read that in Colorado where this law was already in effect  a 14 year old girl was exposed to a pervert who flashed her.  It may be the same situation that I blogged on above. 

Another woman was in a YMCA locker room when a man came in, stripped and took a shower in the woman's locker room. 

I don't think this is a good thing. 

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

Another woman was in a YMCA locker room when a man came in, stripped and took a shower in the woman's locker room.

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What was she doing in a YMCA locker room?

 

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

maybe that's why I'm starting to see around here family bathrooms? Not sure who exactly is supposed to use them....dads and moms with young kids?
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Many of the family bathrooms I've seen around here in CO are small private rooms with a lock on the door. 

 

Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

Many of the family bathrooms I've seen around here in CO are small private rooms with a lock on the door.
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I've never gone in one but have seen them lately starting to crop up here and there.  Usually I bypass that when I hit the ladies room.  But still don't think there's alot of them around yet. 

What was she doing in a YMCA locker room?
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oops....good catch Leauki......YWCA not YMCA:blush:

 

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top

oops....good catch Leauki......YWCA not YMCA

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:-)

In that case I agree with you. A man has no business being in a Y_W_CA locker room. That's not a unisex facility anyway, regardless of whether such facilities exist or should exist.

 

Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top

I can only imagine the reaction of say a few women in the shower room taking a shower and gabbing away and then the shock of seeing a man enter their shower room completely nude attempting to take a shower right next to them.  This is  a good way to get someone killed.  We're going to be looking at a whole new bunch of crime scenes. 

If I were alone in that shower room and a man came in like that, I would immediately panic and think the worst.  I would feel as tho I could never use a shower like that ever again.  It wouldn't happen twice.  I'm thinking of places like campgrounds, college dorms, gyms, schools, etc. 

If this comes to fruition, there's going to be alot of bad smelling people out there.......:annoyed:

 

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting KFC, reply 7
I can only imagine the reaction of say a few women in the shower room taking a shower and gabbing away and then the shock of seeing a man enter their shower room completely nude attempting to take a shower right next to them.  This is  a good way to get someone killed.  We're going to be looking at a whole new bunch of crime scenes. 

If I were alone in that shower room and a man came in like that, I would immediately panic and think the worst.  I would feel as tho I could never use a shower like that ever again.  It wouldn't happen twice.  I'm thinking of places like campgrounds, college dorms, gyms, schools, etc. 

If this comes to fruition, there's going to be alot of bad smelling people out there.......

 
End of KFC's quote

 

I disagree with you on that, it just seems too much like a slippery slope fallacy, even almost reductio ad absurdum. I mean sure, there will be problems, but still...

 

~Alderic

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

I disagree with you on that, it just seems too much like a slippery slope fallacy, even almost reductio ad absurdum
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Whoa. Formal logic. You are in the wrong place.

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

I was on an Israeli navy base yesterday and I noticed that at least one bathroom was unisex, with two stalls, one for men, and one for women. Ironically a girl was waiting in front of the occupied female stall while the male stall was unoccupied.

I guess this story contains at least three points that could be answered either way.

Should there be such unisex bathrooms?

If so, should the individual stalls be available to both men and women?

And wouldn't it have been better for the girl waiting if both stalls had been available to both men and women?

 

 

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top

There was some shocking news down here in Florida this past week. 

A couple of children went into the bathroom of a restaurant chain thinking they were going to use the facility as intended.  Not only did they stumble upon an unbelieveable scene their parents are now outraged. 

They walked into a situation where they witnessed two couples actively engaging in sex right in front of these young eyes. 

How would you feel if your  11 year old daughter walk into that situation? 

You mess with the wrong dad nowadays and it could get ugly. 

Like I said......we are sliding into moral madness and it's increasing at a rapid pace. 

Just since I wrote this there has been some very unusal activity.  The woman who is being held in the rape and murder of a 9 year old girl in California for one.  I just read an article about how the cops just couldn't believe she acted alone because they had never ever seen such a thing before.  The whole thing was unthinkable. Woman, especially mothers who have a child the same age, just don't normally rape little girls.  It's unheard of. 

Another story just being uncovered now is the father who killed his young family of five in Maryland and the community is in complete shock.   

 

Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's unheard of.
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KFC, something else to think about.  Booze sales and the sex industry see a major increase during economic downturns.  This may or may not be contributing to these factors?

just a thought.

Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top

Booze sales and the sex industry see a major increase during economic downturns. This may or may not be contributing to these factors?
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oh I'm sure and the drug factor is there as well.  But I haven't heard alcohol as being a factor in these latest cases have you?  The case concerning Casey Anthony drugs and alcohol do seem to be a factor but these other myriad of cases are mostly mysterious with no connecting link that I'm aware of unless you count maybe depression.   

In today's paper they said that most people are buying their alcohol instead of visiting bars for the economy's sake.  I guess it's cheaper.  We've always had alcohol around but nothing accompanying it like what we're seeing today.