We Are Sliding Into Moral Madness

And It's About To Get Worse!

Well here we go again.  Ready for the next slippery ride down the slope as we progress further into moral chaos?  Can't say you haven't been warned. 

Months ago I brought up the fact that in Colorado a new law was being tossed around that gave special public accommodation protections to people who identify as either a transgender or homosexual.  We discussed at the time how this was going to cause confusion in the locker rooms and rest rooms.   

Men would be able to go into woman's restrooms and ladies into men's locker rooms as they so feel like it.  It has to do with gender association or expression.  So if a female feels like a male that day and identifies better with the male side of her self she has every right to go into the men's bathroom and vice versa.  Of course it doesn't take Einstein to figure out this is going to open up a whole nuther can of nuts.  In fact, the nuts will be in the restroom next to you now and there's nothing you can do about it. 

It was hard enough to let our kids use the public restrooms then, what about now? 

In Colorado the Christians geared up for a fight to stop this from happening by placing ads in the local media on what this would look like in reality.  The social problems galore that would follow by allowing such a law.   The liberal governor and legislature of course denied these claims making it out that the conservatives were just a bunch of liars.  Of course isn't that how they always retort back when they have no leg to stand on?   The proponents for this bill  said things like this:

"has nothing at all to do with allowing one gender in another gender's restrooms."

"I do not see any basis whatever for an assertion that the bill requires that men be admitted to women's bathrooms or vice versa."

Now months later guess who has egg on their faces?  Not the conservatives who did everything they could, unsuccessfully I might add,  to stop this bill from becoming law.  Too late now.  The liberals got their way.  Let the reaping begin. 

Now a state agency has issued regulations to enforce this new law and it looks exactly as predicted NOT by the loony left but by the ones who fought tooth and nail against it. 

So who are the liars now?   The state of CO is mandating that all businesses and most nonprofit organizations in the state are required to allow transgendered people-under a very vague definition- to use whichever restroom or locker room they choose. 

The same thing is happening in New Hampshire. 

My husband printed off the new bill up for vote in NH because he just couldn't believe what he had heard from an editorialist.  He had to check it out for himself.   It's called HB-415.   It says:

              STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

     In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Nine

AN ACT adding certain terms regarding non-discrimination to the laws.

Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

1 New Section; Statutory Construction; Gender Identity and Expression.  Amend RSA 21 by inserting after section 50 the following new section:

21:51 Gender Identity and Expression.  "Gender identity or expression" means a gender-related identity, appearance, expression, or behavior of an individual, regardless of the individual's assigned sex at birth.

It goes on to say that this new Gender Identity and Expression will be put next to  age, sex, race, creed, color, marital status, familial status, physical or mental disability or national origin anti discrimatory laws. 

Do you understand what this means?  It means if I feel like being a woman one day and a man the next, according to the state, I'm allowed to use either men's rooms or women's rooms according to how I wish to express myself that day.  It doesn't matter what sex I was born as.  I can be male or female now according to the law because what I think or feel.......I am.   It's freedom of expression all the way baby! 

So how does this manifest itself?  Glad you asked.  Here's a few examples from the latest newsletter I get from CO:

*A female encountered a man in a women's restroom in a local airport.

*A teen girl saw a man in a women's restroom at a Colorado Springs Wal-Mart and he exposed himself to her.

*Two teenage girls discovered a man undressing in a women's locker room in a Denver area fitness facility.  Which makes me wonder about Curves.  What are they going to do with this new law?  They can't discriminate.  If a man wants to use the Curves facility they will have to allow this to happen.

*A mother and daughter in a Colorado mall bathroom were intruded upon by a man in his 20's with a red-dyed Mohawk who spent several minutes in the ladie's room. 

Well one things for sure.....it's sure going to mess up the whole "the wife should submit to her husband" thing now isn't it?  Maybe they'll trade places as they deem fit and take turns being the boss man. 

Gah! 

 

 

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So from what I gather so as not to be discriminatory you can't even ask or question an individual as to their gender status when they attempt to use a locker room or bathroom.  So from what I understand this will make it virtually impossible to stop anyone from entering a restroom because of gender. 

I can see the lawsuits now. 

What is wrong with our state legislatures?   Are they a product of mad-cow disease?  Too much $100 an oz steak in the governor's mansions? 

If this isn't enough get this:

A feminist by the name of Anne Falso Sterling wrote an article titled "The Five Sexes: Why Male and Female Are Not Enough."  She is supporting  the thought of five genders.   This would be male, female, homosexual male, homosexual female and bisexual. 

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Well one things for sure.....it's sure going to mess up the whole "the wife should submit to her husband" thing now isn't it? Maybe they'll trade places as they deem fit and take turns being the boss man.
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They don't take turns. The woman is always boss. This is why it is important not to get married.

I think this law was written because heterosexual men are afraid of being scoped out on the john, not an invalid fear. Conversely, I do not think men would have a huge problem with lesbians in the mens restroom. On the other side, I think women will have a problem with men in their restroom homosexual or not. Again, the fear will be being scoped out on the john. So the question is, whose privacy is more important? I think its mine.

And in the end, does it really matter? Unisex restrooms exist, too. And I haven't heard of people melting after using one.

 

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I don't agree with the laws that are being passed but these are simply a means to distract us from the real issues at hand. Social and Moral deterioration runs much deeper than this and the real problems we face in the near future make this look like cartoon stuff. We must ask ourselves do we wish to continue to help the great distractor/spin artist in it's work or call attention to the real probelms of social decay we face.

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A year ago I played Badminton in a club on weekends.

I only played against girls.

I had three reasons.

1. If I play against girls, I win.

2. I do not enjoy so much watching a man jump and down trying to hit a ball.

3. The club is an old-style conservative Protestant club which has one big shower room for all men. And I cannot get myself to make a date with another man to take a shower together, even if it is really to play Badminton.

 

Conversely, I do not think men would have a huge problem with lesbians in the mens restroom.

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I know I wouldn't. (It's really other men being in the same restroom as myself that I have a problem with.)

 

On the other side, I think women will have a problem with men in their restroom homosexual or not.

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That's their problem, surely.

 

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She is supporting  the thought of five genders.   This would be male, female, homosexual male, homosexual female and bisexual. 

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What would be the point? Surely homosexual men are men and homosexual women are women. It's a question of biology, not a question of lifestyle.

I always said that these things cannot be decided by an individual himself (I use the male pronoun in inclusive mode, as it should be done).

 

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Unisex restrooms exist, too. And I haven't heard of people melting after using one.
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Precisely.  And if you want privacy, pop into a stall.

Public bathrooms are for taking care of various biological functions...and occasionally random sex encounters.  This hardly changes anything.  Maybe if the line to the women's bathroom is too long, some ladies can use the other one? :)

~Zoo

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She is supporting the thought of five genders. This would be male, female, homosexual male, homosexual female and bisexual.
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Gender is what one identifies themselves as.  Sex is what one biologically is...there are 3 basic sexes: male, female, and hemaphrodite.  Of course you have your phenotypically female males and stuff...but that's not really related to this.

~Zoo

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Public bathrooms are for taking care of various biological functions...and occasionally random sex encounters.

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I am apparently using the wrong bathrooms.

 

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I am apparently using the wrong bathrooms.
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:rofl:  

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They don't take turns. The woman is always boss. This is why it is important not to get married.
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that's not how God intended...but there is much truth to what you say but it's not God's best for us......but still you're kind of pessimestic about marriage aren't you?  Who says you can't be the king of your castle in marriage? 

And in the end, does it really matter? Unisex restrooms exist, too. And I haven't heard of people melting after using one.
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Sorry, but I can't even imagine my 91 year old grandmother going into a bathroom where there are young men.  Heck, most women don't even like their own husbands coming into the bathroom when they are either using the facilities or undressing. 

I don't agree with the laws that are being passed but these are simply a means to distract us from the real issues at hand. Social and Moral deterioration runs much deeper than this and the real problems we face in the near future make this look like cartoon stuff. We must ask ourselves do we wish to continue to help the great distractor/spin artist in it's work or call attention to the real probelms of social decay we face.
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Yes agree totally.  This is all just surface stuff, the real work is being done below the surface. 

I only played against girls.
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1. If I play against girls, I win.
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I am not one ounce surprised Leauki.  This goes without saying.......:)  I've got your number young man! 

I know I wouldn't. (It's really other men being in the same restroom as myself that I have a problem with.)
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hmmmm why is that? 

What would be the point? Surely homosexual men are men and homosexual women are women. It's a question of biology, not a question of lifestyle.
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Agree....and so much simplier.  Why in the world are we trying to make this so complicated? Leave well enough alone.   We're only looking for problems when we do this kind of ridiculous stuff. 

Precisely. And if you want privacy, pop into a stall.
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There's just no way I'm going to pop into any stall if there's some male in the bathroom.  I'll either not go, or I'll wait until he leaves. 

 

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All the women would "fall in" cause men never put the seat cover back down.

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All the women would "fall in" cause men never put the seat cover back down.
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ya, no kidding.  What are those feminists thinking?   Have they lost their minds? 

hahahaha probably they haven't the foggiest idea because most of the radical fems are anti-men anyhow and probably the ones who came up with this idea never married.

Had they been like me, the mother who raised four sons and a husband......they'd know better. 

 

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Who says you can't be the king of your castle in marriage?
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(playing devil's advocate)Well, the problem really started when we gave women the right to vote... and then it went downhill from there. (/playing devil's advocate)

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Hey KFC, since you and I were involved in the conversation above when Ritter signed the bill.  I'm wondering if you have any links to the accounts that are starred in your article?

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(playing devil's advocate)Well, the problem really started when we gave women the right to vote... and then it went downhill from there. (/playing devil's advocate)
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well I'm no radical feminist and I think the freedom to vote for women was a good thing but I can't entirely discount what you're saying either. 

Hey KFC, since you and I were involved in the conversation above when Ritter signed the bill. I'm wondering if you have any links to the accounts that are starred in your article?
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I didn't use a link but a newsletter like I mentioned above.  The newsletter comes from Colorado Springs and is from Focus on the Family Action. 

 

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I didn't use a link but a newsletter like I mentioned above. The newsletter comes from Colorado Springs and is from Focus on the Family Action.

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Do you have a particular issue that these are mentioned in?

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Do you have a particular issue that these are mentioned in?
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Yes.  I have it right on my desk. 

 

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Yes. I have it right on my desk.

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Can you share that with me?

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Months ago I brought up the fact that in Colorado a new law was being tossed around that gave special public accommodation protections to people who identify as either a transgender or homosexual.  We discussed at the time how this was going to cause confusion in the locker rooms and rest rooms.   

Men would be able to go into woman's restrooms and ladies into men's locker rooms as they so feel like it.  It has to do with gender association or expression.  So if a female feels like a male that day and identifies better with the male side of her self she has every right to go into the men's bathroom and vice versa.  Of course it doesn't take Einstein to figure out this is going to open up a whole nuther can of nuts.  In fact, the nuts will be in the restroom next to you now and there's nothing you can do about it.

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Eh, I think the bill needs to be redefined so that there is some sort of certification, because any perverted guy or gal can make such claims and get into the bathrooms. Still, it is a very sticky situation, because then you put the power of deciding who someone is - in the hands of a few. It begs the question: Who decides who you are, you or a shrink? (Assuming it's a psychiatrist/ologist that would be the person)

 

Ready for the next slippery ride down the slope as we progress further into moral chaos?  Can't say you haven't been warned.
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No pun intended, but...

 

Good lord I cannot stand slippery slope fallacies...they make my head hurt. >_>

 

It doesn't matter what sex I was born as.
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That's the tricky thing... See I've a friend who is biologically female, but psychologically, mentally...she is attracted to men and has all the personality/traits of a man. It's as if she was a man born in a female body.

 

 

Well one things for sure.....it's sure going to mess up the whole "the wife should submit to her husband" thing now isn't it?  Maybe they'll trade places as they deem fit and take turns being the boss man
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What is wrong with the wife being the king of the castle? My mother is as tough as any man or group of men and for a while was the "man" of the house. Personally, I don't believe in a wife submitting to the husband. To me, it's all about being equals.

 

 

 

 

 

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I would also like to add that the sources you use are...in my opinion...gag inducing. They're extremely biased and don't shy away from (in my experience) coloring the facts.

:le sigh:

 

So much for (completely) honest, (truly) unbiased, fact driven news.

 

~Alderic

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Can you share that with me?
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Sure...if you want to PM me and send me your address,  I'll mail it right to you.  I'm done with it anyhow. 

Alderic:

So much for (completely) honest, (truly) unbiased, fact driven news.
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Are you kidding me? Coloring WHAT FACTS?   Colorado PASSED the bill.  Check it for yourself.  I gave you the NH bill.   Just type in the bill number and it will give you the NH Goverment site. 

OH and BTW.......THe NH House of Representatives rejected the bill.  Do you know why?  They said they were afraid that perverts would abuse this law and go into women's bathrooms.  Good for them!!  For once......SENSE!

You fit the bill for the quote:   "for those who believe no proof is necessary....for those who don't believe no proof is enough." 

she is attracted to men and has all the personality/traits of a man. It's as if she was a man born in a female body.
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we used to call them tomboys.  I believe there are men who are more "feminine"  than the norm but are still heterosexuals and women who have masculine qualities but are also heterosexuals. 

I don't believe in a wife submitting to the husband. To me, it's all about being equals.
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has nothing to do with equality but all to do with role.  God made man and woman equal but gave men the position of head of their families both spiritually and physically.  He gave women the role of bearing children.  It doesn't make the husband less inferior that she bears the children does it?   When we get away from God's best we run into problems. 

I actually wrote about this in one of my latest blogs about Adam and Eve.  Eve usurped Adam's role and there ya go :)

 

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Are you kidding me? Coloring WHAT FACTS? Colorado PASSED the bill. Check it for yourself. I gave you the NH bill. Just type in the bill number and it will give you the NH Goverment site.

OH and BTW.......THe NH House of Representatives rejected the bill. Do you know why? They said they were afraid that perverts would abuse this law and go into women's bathrooms. Good for them!! For once......SENSE!

You fit the bill for the quote: "for those who believe no proof is necessary....for those who don't believe no proof is enough
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I was commention on the sources in general/over the length of their news service, not necessarily this one.

 

has nothing to do with equality but all to do with role. God made man and woman equal but gave men the position of head of their families both spiritually and physically. He gave women the role of bearing children. It doesn't make the husband less inferior that she bears the children does it? When we get away from God's best we run into problems.

I actually wrote about this in one of my latest blogs about Adam and Eve. Eve usurped Adam's role and there ya go
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Then how would you view my mother who had to be the head of the house, according to you, a man's role - when no (real) men would be fidelity driven, etc.

 

we used to call them tomboys. I believe there are men who are more "feminine" than the norm but are still heterosexuals and women who have masculine qualities but are also heterosexuals.
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yeah, there are people who are tomboy-ish. That doesn't really answer my question though. She's a woman, who for all intensive purposes has the mind/drive of a man...

 

~Alderic

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Then how would you view my mother who had to be the head of the house, according to you, a man's role - when no (real) men would be fidelity driven, etc.
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If there is no man in the house, mom has to be the head.  There is no dad.  Otherwise the kids will be taking the lead....and that's not good.   So, yes she is the head of the house.  That's not God's perfect plan for a family tho...but sometimes circumstances dictate and you have to go with it.  But that's not what I'm talking about. 

In God's perfect plan his wish was for men to be men by being the leaders in their family both spiritually and physically.  He's not to rule with a heavy fist but with love and affection for his family, the way God loves the church.  The problem is the women of today, don't allow this.  They want to wear the pants in the family and because of it we have all sorts of problems. 

A marriage with no head is dead and a marriage with two heads is abnormal. 

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NEWSBREAK UPDATE!

You're not going to believe this one........or maybe you should the way things have been progressing in government these days.

When the bill came up for a vote, it was rejected with the idea that perverts would take advantage of this law.

Well that didn't last.  I guess the Speaker of the House put on a grand ol' speech dripping with emotion and they decided to re-vote. 

Guess what?

This time it passed.  By one vote.  Voting on emotion.  Every time.  That's the name of the game now. 

Moms in NH beware and check the bathrooms before you send your little girls into the girl's room.

 

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Voting on emotion. Every time. That's the name of the game now.
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Yeah, remember way back when...

no, no. I'm pretty sure that's always been the case. Time for a robot uprising? You decide.