My religious opinions on homosexuality

Wow, and that you did! Thanks for an insightful probe into an often sensitive and inflammed area.

Thank you. I enjoy flame wars, so I'll accept any feedback. You can call me evil, I don't mind.

Bravo for even bringing it up...  

It's been on my mind for a while. I was gonna include it in Theology Part 2, but I felt it needed its own article.

Perhaps, if you believe this strongly, you should make the effort to research and reproduce the Scriptures upon which you base your belief, for our edification.

PS - I don't see any featured articles by you.

it was up yesterday. Roguelike Game Design is still in the list somewhere.

I'm not good with scripture references, but here is a URL to another article.

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I would much rather see your explanation of the Scriptures. Which Scriptures? What do they mean to you? Your view is a pretty common Christian take on homosexuality. I would like to hear what brought you to the conclusions you've made. How do you justify/explain your beliefs?

(PS - I can give you Scriptures on homosexuality, either direct references or loose connections, but I want to hear what YOU think)

I've explained my beliefs. I've read the Bible, cover to cover, at least once, but I cannot give references to specific verses. I believe that homosexuality is wrong at least, if due to nothing else, its close relationship to STD's (particularly extremely nasty strains in men) and other diseases I feel to be a reason that God set said rules into place. If not from simply the secular to theological mindset, I feel that there are plenty of reasons to believe strongly the way I do.

DRV is the Douay Rheims Version....NAB is the New American Bible

The Lord said to Moses....I am the Lord your God. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination....if anyone lie with a man as with a woman, both have committed an abomination; let them be put to death, their blood be upon them. " Leviticus 18:1-2, 22, 20:13.

"...For their woman have changed the natural use for that use which is against nature. And in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, having burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense of their perversity. Romans 1:26-27.

Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate (boy prostitutes in the NAB version), nor sodomites, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor the slanderers, nor the greedy will possess the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:9-10.

But we know that the law is good, if a man uses it lawfully: knowing that the Law is not made for the just, but for the unjust and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the wicked and defiled, for murderers,... for fornicators, for them who defile themselves with mankind--(DRV)(sodomites--NAB), for kidnappers, for liars, for perjureres, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine which is according to the gospel of the glory of the blessed God, which has been committed to my trust. 1Timothy 8-11.

"Avoid fornication. Every other sin that a person commits is outside the body, but he who commits fornication (sexual immorality--NAB) sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you are bought with a great price. Therefore glorify and bear God in your body." 1Cor.6:18-20

I think the Sacred Scriptures clearly condemn the practice of homosexuality don't you?

Apparently no one gets into heaven.

~Zoo

I think the Sacred Scriptures clearly condemn the practice of homosexuality, don't you?

God's way tells us all to practice chastity before marriage and fidelity afterwards.

He didn't mention lesbians though so I assume he's bang up for that kind of action.

The practice of homosexuality is to be condemned among members of a tribe that might go extinct when not enough children are produced.

I second that.

 

I personally believe that homosexuality is bad between both genders. However, practically, it has more negative effects on men that have been scientificially noted.

Cactoblasta,


Yes, God condemns lesbianism.

Romans 1:26-27.

Also all same-gender sex is condemned becasue it's fornication. Fornication is specifically mentioned in 3 of those passages.

I've always understood the word "homosexuality" includes both males and females.

That's true and one reason why is becasue males are much more promiscuous than females. Long term monogamous relationships are rare for males. Even among 'married' homosexual males, the cheating ratio, given enough time, approaches 100%. Stats can be found on this in the NEw England Journal of Medicine.

To give an idea from a study reported in the 1993 Journal of the AMerican Medical Assoc., "homosexual men....reported a median of 1,160 lifetime sexual partners". In another, the median number of lifetime sexual partners of over 4,000 homosexual respondents was 49.5.

The results of the homosexual lifestyle are disease, death and unhappiness...but we seldom hear this in the media or in academia.

It's because it's based on faulty data.

They are comparing homosexuals living outside the marriage society with heterosexuals living inside the marriage society.

If marriage was as common among homosexuals as it is among heterosexuals, promiscuity levels might or might not be the same.

We'll have to get new stats from, say, Denmark in ten or twenty years to find relevant data.

So I wonder what it really is? Is it 1,160 or just 49.5? Seems like quite a disparity in figures there.  :NOTSURE: 

ya he did.....

TW is spot on here Erathoniel.  You should know what you believe and why.  You should be able to document this quite easily.  You should be able to articulate exactly why you believe the way you do using scripture as your guide. 

I absolutely agree with you on the subject matter but also think you're not very credible if you are just taking this on heresay or maybe parrotting other Christians with no foundation of your own. 

You really need to know scripture if you're going to speak on it with authority.  Otherwise how will you be able to answer the follow up questions?  Other than your initial statement you could be dead in the water debating a very articulate non-believer for lack of research on your part. 

You could open up the cover of your bible, list a few titles such as homosexuality, divorce, adultery, murder etc and put the scripture reference under it for quick reference.  You'll find that after just a few times, you'll for the most part remember where to find these scriptures without even looking at the cover. 

Some bibles already have a helpful concordance at the back to help also for most quoted scriptures on any particular topic. 

 

 

 

 

 

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad when the anti-gay religious point to any dysfunctionality amongst homosexuals as proof that homosexuality is destructive. Completely ignoring the huge role they played in this. As though hundreds of years of being treated as a perversion of nature, an abomination before god still in some places being executed for just the suspicion of the practice could have nothing to do with the psychological problems they experience. Also pointing to the increase in STD's, again ignoring the fact that heterosexuals suffer only slightly less from the same diseases.

Homosexuals are more likely to be lynched by a mob by .02%. Therefore, homosexuality is dangerous to one's well-being and shoudl not be practiced!

Speaking only of sexual transmission, could the reason be that many don't practice homosexual sex exclusively...they also practice bi-sexuality which explains one of the reasons the diseases, especially AIDS, is in the general population as well.

Also, sex with prostitutes is a factor in spreading dieseases amongst the general population as well.




Ah, no, Stubbyfinger. Giving those who voluntarily adopt unnatural sexual practices victimhood status isn't going to work here. No one but the participants themselves are to blame for the consequences of their sexual actions.





Yes and rightly so...homosexuality is a perversion of nature...the body parts don't fit.