Chopping Gameplay + Messed UP Graphics "HELP"

HELP PLEASE.

Ok ive just brought Galactic Civilations Gold edition in the last few days. Ive allready played Dread Lords with no problems at all.

So i decided to play Dark Avatar, so i started a new game everytime i start a game no matter what graphic settings i set the options to high or low the framerate goes choppy on the main map and it stall's all the time and then after a while the graphics all get messed up and i have to quit the game and restart, just for this to do it again and this usually happens after a few turns.

I dont have a good system however i do have a decent system to play the game without the terrible gameplay issues. I have the lastest nividia drivers 93.71 for my graphics card. I play dread lords and get nothing like this at all. I think it some sort of bug or texture error which slows down the gameplay and makes the graphics go upside down.

My system specs are

Althon XP 1800
1 Gig Ram
Geforce 4 ti 4600 128 meg grapgic card.
Windows XP Professional Edition.

Ive checked my system to make sure everything is set right to play this game but ive ONLY just brought this game for what i cannot play it. Please sort this problem please i managed to get my lass to buy this game for me and if she finds out it does not work right she will kill me.
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Reply #1 Top
and then after a while the graphics all get messed up and i have to quit the game and restart


Can you give details and or screenshots about this?

Also, please post the contents of the debug.err file located in the game's folder.
Reply #2 Top
Ok first off there another post about another bloke whom seems to have the same problems as i have and he has posted a few screenshots however the only difference is that i dont get the main screen at start messed up its only when playing the game. The title of the post is

SLOW GAME WRITING MESSED UP AND MISSING VIDEO.

Just so you no i have the latest patchs for the games.

Detials let me c. When moving around the map it gets really clow and stalls. when zoomed out and the planets etc etc goto icons it runs more smoothly however this does not solve the problem. I cant believe my system is outdated for this game to go that slow and mess up when in dread lords nothing happens.

Here is my debug.err files contents.

Debug Message: Version v1.50x3 Dark Avatar last updated on: Mon Mar 12 18:37:34 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 3/17/2007, 22:25:26
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: SEANS-MAC
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.061219-0316)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: P1089A-ABU 7965
BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0.
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.5GHz
Physical Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 307MB used, 2155MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce4 Ti 4600
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0250&SUBSYS_87241462&REV_A2
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1152 x 864 (32 bit) (100Hz)
Monitor Name: Sony CPD-420GS
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371
Driver Date: 10/22/2006 12:22:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: Logitech USB Headset
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: USB\Vid_046d&Pid_0a01&Rev_0113&MI_00
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Driver Name: usbaudio.sys
Provider: Microsoft
Driver Version: 5.01.2600.2180
Driver Date: 8/4/2004 06:07:56
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0

Sound device 1:
Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [FF40]
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20011102&REV_04
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Provider: Creative
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1164
Driver Date: 12/8/2005 11:55:46
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONMASKABLE
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1024 x 768
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (sw vp): NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 100
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
Debug Message: Timer Frequency is 0 369e99
Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\sfx\*.wav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Event Music\*.mp3
Debug Message: Create setup screens.
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding FullscreenBink
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/\FleetFormations\*.fleet
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Gfx\Planets\C0*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/1SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/2SideN*.png
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Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/3SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideN*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideE*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideS*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=1
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Dark Avatar\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Dread Lords Campaign\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Metaverse\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Story Logs\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\temp\*.sav
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Loading Custom Map
Debug Message: Loading Data Defs
Debug Message: Data Defs block size: 998430
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: Loading TechDefs
Debug Message: Max num techs: 273
Debug Message: Loading ImprovementDB
Debug Message: Loading Component Defs
Debug Message: Loading ShipTypes
Debug Message: Loading ShipTemplates
Debug Message: Loading ParsedHardpoints
Debug Message: Loading AnomalyTypes
Debug Message: Loading RandomEvents
Debug Message: Loading UPIssues
Debug Message: Loading ResourceTypes
Debug Message: Loading InvasionTactics
Debug Message: Loading SBmodules
Debug Message: Loading PoliticalParties
Debug Message: Loading Planet Types
Debug Message: Loading Star Types
Debug Message: Loading AFMBModules
Debug Message: Loading ShipStyles
Debug Message: Loading Game
Debug Message: Loading: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Loading Galaxy
Debug Message: Sectors across: 18 x 18
Debug Message: Loading FOW Map
Debug Message: Loading ZOC Map
Debug Message: Loading Planets
Debug Message: Loading Stars
Debug Message: Loading Anomalies
Debug Message: Loading Resources
Debug Message: Loading AsteroidFields
Debug Message: Loading AFMiningBases
Debug Message: Loading Civs
Debug Message: Loading Colonies
Debug Message: Loading RallyPoints
Debug Message: Loading Ships
Debug Message: Loading Fleets
Debug Message: Loading Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Loading Treaties
Debug Message: Loading ENDGALAXYDATA
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: UIBeginGame called with g_ulLocalPlayerID = 0
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: New Game Started
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: Mods are Disabled
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S2_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Altarian Resistance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S3_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Arcean Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S6_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dominion of Korx Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S7_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drath Legion Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S13_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dread Lords Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S1_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drengin Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S9_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Iconian Refuge Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S10_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Korath Clan Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S11_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Krynn Consulate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: Pirate_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Pirate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S0_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Terran Alliance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S8_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Thalan Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S4_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Torian Confederation Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S5_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Yor Collective Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S2_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Altarian Resistance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S3_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Arcean Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S6_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dominion of Korx Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S7_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drath Legion Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S13_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dread Lords Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S1_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drengin Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S9_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Iconian Refuge Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S10_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Korath Clan Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S11_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Krynn Consulate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: Pirate_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Pirate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S0_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Terran Alliance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S8_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Thalan Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S4_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Torian Confederation Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S5_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Yor Collective Style.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=20
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding QuarterlyWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=16
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 2
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 3
Debug Message: EconomicWnd: Cannot find OBJID Template_Button_Back
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 4
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Slider
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Scale
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Title
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Value
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=7
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding TradeWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Korath Colony Ship M0-1 50. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=22
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding HeadlineWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: LentzLandians (18): Researching: Starship Defenses
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=16
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 2
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: AI Report: Negative Attack from Base result
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M0-6 92. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: AI Report: Negative Attack from Base result
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog 0a
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=20
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding QuarterlyWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Paulos (17): Researching: Space Weapons
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: AI Report: Negative Attack from Base result
Debug Message: Destroying ship Yor Colony Ship M0-6 91. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: AI Report: Negative Attack from Base result
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 4
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=7
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding TradeWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: AI Report: Negative Attack from Base result
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: LentzLandians (18): Researching: Space Weapons
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
Debug Message: Save Game: About to save
Debug Message: Saving game C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\QuickSave.sav
Debug Message: Num Sectors Across: 18
Debug Message: Max num techs: 273
Debug Message: Total tech data size: 172423 Max tech size: 1927
Debug Message: Total improvement db size: 69616
Debug Message: Component defs data size: 182304
Debug Message: Total ship class data size: 35373 Max ship class data size: 576
Debug Message: Total ship template class data size: 9232 Max ship class data size: 316
Debug Message: Total anomaly types data: 6868, Max anomaly type size: 341
Debug Message: Total random event data size: 45246 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 272840 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
Debug Message: Total invasion tatic data size: 2789 Max invasion tactic data size: 476
Debug Message: Total starbase module data size: 35756 Max starbase module size: 467
Debug Message: Total political party data size: 13896 Max political party size: 1737
Debug Message: Total planet types data size: 0 Max planet type size: 0
Debug Message: Total star type data size: 6896 Max star type size: 862
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Debug Message: Total ship style data size: 9406 Max ship style size: 684
Debug Message: Saving: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Game Object data: 16
Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14356
Debug Message: FOW data: 16664
Debug Message: ZOC data: 392
Debug Message: Total Planet data size: 3203537 Max Planet data size: 3642
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Debug Message: Total Anomaly data size: 68030 Max Anomaly data size: 311
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Debug Message: Total Asteroid Field data size: 39978 Max Asteroid Field data size: 443
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Debug Message: Total Rally point data size: 3134 Max Rallypoint data size: 262
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Debug Message: Total Fleet data size: 0 Max Fleet Data size: 0
Debug Message: Save game finished.
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
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Debug Message: Max num techs: 273
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Debug Message: Total ship style data size: 9406 Max ship style size: 684
Debug Message: Saving: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Game Object data: 16
Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14356
Debug Message: FOW data: 16664
Debug Message: ZOC data: 392
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Debug Message: Total Star data size: 130052 Max Star data size: 350
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Debug Message: Total Asteroid Field data size: 39978 Max Asteroid Field data size: 443
Debug Message: Total Asteroid Field Mining Base data size: 15575 Max Asteroid Field Mining Base data size: 487
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Debug Message: Total Colony data size: 8340 Max colony data size: 294
Debug Message: Total Rally point data size: 3134 Max Rallypoint data size: 262
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Debug Message: Total Fleet data size: 0 Max Fleet Data size: 0
Debug Message: Save game finished.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=19
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding OptionsWnd
Debug Message: OptionsWnd: Quit Btn
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Posting WM_CLOSE message.
Debug Message: WM_CLOSE message received.
Debug Message: GameUninitialize start
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
Debug Message: Killing Galaxy: Completed
Debug Message: Shutting down sound system.
Debug Message: Clearing sound and music handles.
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Debug Message: GameUninitialize end
Debug Message: Device not cleared. 5 counts left.
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Debug Message: Destroying Window.
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Reply #4 Top
I managed to find that other post that you were mentioning...

Post with similar problem

So if you play Dread Lords on ANY setting, that is suitable for your PC, and all is fine...???

If you play the equivelent game with DA then the game gives you the problems that you have noted, and is similar to the above screenshots...???

Ok accepting the above this is what I have found on my system...

I have an AMD Opteron 64bit CPU running at 2800mhz. 2GB of RAM and a Gainward Bliss 8800GTS graphics card.

Whilst my machine is not the latest or best I think that you would agree that it should be able to play this game quite well.

With DL it does play fine. I run at 1280x1024. I can, if I wish, use 8xAA. I have all the eye candy settings on and with a large or gigantic map the game runs with no problem. I note no problem, as waiting for a few seconds between each turn when the map is revealed and full of other moving ships is acceptable.

With DA it is not the same.

The equivelent sized map with all the settings the same can and does cause noticeable slowdowns and 'stuttering' when the map is revealed. There are some scrollling issues as well, issues such as 'lag' of scrolling.

However I do NOT get any graphical distortion.

The point of my response is to suggest that there are, in my findings, demands that are greater by DA over that of DL for your system to cope with.

Just as a test have you tried the lowest resolution possible with zero eye candy and play on a tiny map with just one other opponent...? I know that is not what you want but just give it a go, as you have noted....

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......goes choppy on the main map and it stall's all the time and then after a while the graphics all get messed up and i have to quit the game and restart, just for this to do it again and this usually happens after a few turns.
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...you then might find that things go ok. However it goes please post back your findings. Try and ensure that you have the minimum of tasks runnning on XP before you start the game can also help.

There was a post that I read about a person who does have an UUber machine with a quad core blah blah and an Nvidia 8800GTX with 4GB of RAM and he also noted slowdowns later on in the game, then again another posted that they wait for two or three minutes at later levels for each turn to complete..!!!


Reply #5 Top
Fair enough i can understand someone having to wait 2 or 3 minutes per turn later in this game expecially if he has hundreds of ships on screen at once.

With me i can talking 3 ships on screen. The thing is i dont get any slow down on DL and no graphics glitches on DL at all. Ive just recently tested DL with all my system settings on high and on the gigantic map settings with all opponents, max stars,planets etc etc. I sent out scouts ships and scouted every section of the maps and there was still no slow down at all and i had my graphic card setting to max for max graphic quality.

With DA i must of only moved a few turns and if feels like my system if trying to push a tank. Then my graphics start to get messed up and 1 of 2 things happens. I have to quit out or DA crashes and i have to reboot my system.
Reply #6 Top
Another thing i cant understand why DA is so demanding or DL and you must be able to run a super computer to get it to work ok when DL you only need slow machine and it works fine. Its a expansion pack fair enough, they have put alot of new features in the game etc etc, but basically its the same game with the same graphics.
Reply #7 Top
I think in your last post when you ask 'why' you then answer your own question, in that the extra features, both grpahical and AI intensive, could account for the differences between the two.

I am a little surprised when you note...

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With me i can talking 3 ships on screen. The thing is i dont get any slow down on DL and no graphics glitches on DL at all. Ive just recently tested DL with all my system settings on high and on the gigantic map settings with all opponents, max stars,planets etc etc. I sent out scouts ships and scouted every section of the maps and there was still no slow down at all and i had my graphic card setting to max for max graphic quality.
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...as I do get slowdowns they are just not anything more than expected, a few seconds longer each turn as the game progresses but no 'lag' or dragging problems with the map.

Of the RTS games on the market, not just turn based, it seems, to me, that Supreme Commander can quickly bring the best systems to a crawl where Command and Conquer 3 runs really well. But take a look at the 'type' and rendering of the graphics used and you might understand why.

Just maybe Brad and his team will be able to optimise the coding a little better but until he can then the gigantic maps with all of the opponents, and minor races, will have to be a bit sluggish for me and nigh on impossible for you, I guess.

As you have written that DA will crash then post your debug.err file from that crash WITHOUT trying it again, as it will write over that file the next time you try and start the game.

I hope that heat isn't a problem for your PC either.

Not sure whay you need to reboot your PC though just because DA has CTD....?

Reply #8 Top
I can cope with the delays between turns, thats expected as more and more ships are on screen thats no the issue here, the issue here that theres a lag problem with scrolling around the map "not just me with this problem". The extra problem i am getting is that after i get the lag problems i get the graphic problems which either crashs DA or i have to restart the computer.

Ive tried that same game options with Dread Lords and i get nothing at all. Now if i had a problem with my graphic card or system Dread Lords would of come up with the same problems but i get nothing, matter of fact dread lords works like a charm, large maps loads of ships no slow down expect when the computer AI is taking his turn.

I think your right vimes2004 until a new patch is released hopefully improving the lagging issues i am sticking with dread lords, thats only because i have no choice.

Reply #9 Top
Ok here is my new debug list as you can see there is a lot of problems with things coming up in game near the end making me have to quit out of the game hope it helps.


Debug Message: Version v1.50x3 Dark Avatar last updated on: Mon Mar 12 18:37:34 2007
Debug Message: Checking DX Version.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 3/18/2007, 14:34:31
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: SEANS-MAC
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.061219-0316)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: P1089A-ABU 7965
BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0.
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.5GHz
Physical Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 279MB used, 2184MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS


Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce4 Ti 4600
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0250&SUBSYS_87241462&REV_A2
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1152 x 864 (32 bit) (100Hz)
Monitor Name: Sony CPD-420GS
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371
Driver Date: 10/22/2006 12:22:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes



Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [FF40]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20011102&REV_04
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Provider: Creative
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1164
Driver Date: 12/8/2005 11:55:46
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0



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Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
Debug Message: Using multilsample setting: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONMASKABLE
Debug Message: Game Resolution: 1024 x 768
Debug Message: Running fullscreen.
Debug Message: HAL (sw vp): NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Debug Message: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
Debug Message: Refresh rate: 100
Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
Debug Message: *********Checking D3DDevice Caps***********************
Debug Message: A full-color cursor is supported in hardware at high resolution modes.
Debug Message: RGB in format 6:6:6, Masks reported as ff0000:ff00:ff
Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: GalCiv2 is activated.
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
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Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
Debug Message: No files found matching mask Movies\techs\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\Movies\*.bik
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\sfx\*.wav
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Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Event Music\*.mp3
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Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
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Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding FullscreenBink
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
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Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.xml
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.xml
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Debug Message: No files found matching mask gfx/Terrain/4SideW*.png
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.shipcfg
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
Debug Message: Reading Star Names... Done
Debug Message: No files found matching mask ./Data/English/Tutorials/*.xml
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=1
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Dark Avatar\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Dread Lords Campaign\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Gfx\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Metaverse\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ships\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\ShipStyles\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\shiptemplates\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Story Logs\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\Sean Colin Mcdonald\My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\temp\*.sav
Debug Message: Killing threads.
Debug Message: Kiling civs.
Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid fields.
Debug Message: Killing asteroid field mining bases.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
Debug Message: Clearing Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Clear galaxy settings.
Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Loading Custom Map
Debug Message: Loading Data Defs
Debug Message: Data Defs block size: 1087806
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
Debug Message: Killing ship styles:
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Debug Message: Max num techs: 273
Debug Message: Loading ImprovementDB
Debug Message: Loading Component Defs
Debug Message: Loading ShipTypes
Debug Message: Loading ShipTemplates
Debug Message: Loading ParsedHardpoints
Debug Message: Loading AnomalyTypes
Debug Message: Loading RandomEvents
Debug Message: Loading UPIssues
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Debug Message: Loading InvasionTactics
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Debug Message: Loading PoliticalParties
Debug Message: Loading Planet Types
Debug Message: Loading Star Types
Debug Message: Loading AFMBModules
Debug Message: Loading ShipStyles
Debug Message: Loading Game
Debug Message: Loading: Game mode is normal.
Debug Message: Loading Galaxy
Debug Message: Sectors across: 18 x 18
Debug Message: Loading FOW Map
Debug Message: Loading ZOC Map
Debug Message: Loading Planets
Debug Message: Loading Stars
Debug Message: Loading Anomalies
Debug Message: Loading Resources
Debug Message: Loading AsteroidFields
Debug Message: Loading AFMiningBases
Debug Message: Loading Civs
Debug Message: Loading Colonies
Debug Message: Loading RallyPoints
Debug Message: Loading Ships
Debug Message: Loading Fleets
Debug Message: Loading Turn Event Log
Debug Message: Loading Treaties
Debug Message: Loading ENDGALAXYDATA
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: UIBeginGame called with g_ulLocalPlayerID = 0
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: New Game Started
Debug Message: UIBeginGameHelper: Mods are Disabled
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S2_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Altarian Resistance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S3_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Arcean Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S6_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dominion of Korx Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S7_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drath Legion Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S13_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dread Lords Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S1_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drengin Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S9_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Iconian Refuge Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S10_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Korath Clan Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S11_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Krynn Consulate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: Pirate_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Pirate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S0_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Terran Alliance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S8_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Thalan Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S4_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Torian Confederation Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S5_PirateShip.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Yor Collective Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S2_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Altarian Resistance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S3_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Arcean Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S6_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dominion of Korx Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S7_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drath Legion Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S13_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Dread Lords Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S1_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Drengin Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S9_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Iconian Refuge Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S10_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Korath Clan Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S11_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Krynn Consulate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: Pirate_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Pirate Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S0_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Terran Alliance Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S8_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Thalan Empire Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S4_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Torian Confederation Style.
Debug Message: Could not find ship config: S5_Starbase.shipcfg. This core ship will not be available for style Yor Collective Style.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=20
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding QuarterlyWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=16
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 2
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Drengin Colony Ship M0-6 95. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M0-7 148. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Snathi (20): Researching: Mass Driver Theory
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Paulos (17): Researching: Xeno Communications
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog 0a
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=22
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding HeadlineWnd
Debug Message: Paulos (17): Researching: Mass Driver Theory
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=16
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 2
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding ResearchWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=20
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding QuarterlyWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M0-7 154. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: LentzLandians (18): Researching: Universal Translator
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship 94. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=12
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding RandomEventWnd
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=13
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding PlanetWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Drengin Colony Ship M0-7 156. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=7
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding TradeWnd
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Deleting previous save game.
Debug Message: About to auto save.
Debug Message: Save Game: About to save
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Debug Message: Total ship template class data size: 9232 Max ship class data size: 316
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Debug Message: Total random event data size: 45246 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 272840 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
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Debug Message: Total political party data size: 13896 Max political party size: 1737
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Debug Message: Total asteroid field mining base module data size: 955 Max asteroid field mining base module size: 255
Debug Message: Total ship style data size: 9406 Max ship style size: 684
Debug Message: Saving: Game mode is normal.
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Debug Message: Galaxy data: 14356
Debug Message: FOW data: 21900
Debug Message: ZOC data: 452
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Debug Message: Total Asteroid Field Mining Base data size: 23854 Max Asteroid Field Mining Base data size: 487
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Altarian Colony Ship M0-7 161. Orbiting: 0
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Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
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Debug Message: Destroying ship Iconian Colony Ship M0-7 159. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Paulos (17): Researching: Armor Theory
Debug Message: Random Event: End
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Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=21
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Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 9
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: StarportWnd: Cannot find OBJID StarPort_Planet_Logo_Image
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 8
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 7
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
Debug Message: setting size 16 x 0
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Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Snathi (20): Researching: Basic Rail Guns
Debug Message: Destroying ship Torian Colony Ship M0-7 168. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Colony Ship M0-7 158. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Destroying ship Drengin Colony Ship M0-7 166. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Paulos (17): Researching: Shield Defense Theory
Debug Message: LentzLandians (18): Researching: Shield Defense Theory
Debug Message: Destroying ship Korx Colony Ship M0-7 171. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
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Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=10
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding MessageBoxWnd
Debug Message: Eval
Debug Message: Snathi (20): Researching: Enhanced Rail Guns
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=34
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Unhiding GNNWnd
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 3
Debug Message: EconomicWnd: Cannot find OBJID Template_Button_Back
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 4
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Slider
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Scale
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Title
Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Value
Debug Message: Game Screen: Setting mode to 0
Debug Message: Destroying ship Korath Colony Ship M0-7 185. Orbiting: 0
Debug Message: Updating ZOC.
Debug Message: Random Event: End
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog
Debug Message: Yearly Status Dialog default
Debug Message: Popup Manager Update: Updating window with ID=18
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Container_9
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Name_Title_9
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Portrait_9
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Logo_9
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Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Votes_Value_9
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Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Name_Title_10
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Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Logo_10
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Votes_Title_10
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Votes_Value_10
Debug Message: UnitedPlanetsWnd: Cannot find OBJID UP_Race_Container_11
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Reply #10 Top
I have been reporting this problem for at least a month now with no help from support. Only problem I am having is super slow scrolling speeds from framerate lags. This is not a bug. No file to report.
Reply #11 Top
its like alot of people are getting this super slow lag. i think the programmers are onto this and are looking into solving this problem. if you take a look at dread lords the game runs fine and i could of understood if you needed a Super fast machine to run both dread lords and dark avatar but the sytem requirements for dread lords at least is fair ok as for dark avatar there aint much change apart from improve graphics features etc etc. I cant see dark avator needing a super machine to run it as there is no system requirements apart from the ones for dread lords.
Reply #12 Top
Another thing people with super fast machines are reporting the same problem which make me to think there is a problem somewhere as there is no reports about dread lords running slow.
Reply #13 Top
If you can provide more details (screenshots, preferably) of the graphic corruption you say you experienced, we might be able to offer some suggestions about that. The poor performance though seems to be occurring across the board, so I can't really offer much about that aside from that the devs are aware, and will hopefully be able to look into it to see if anything can be done.
Reply #14 Top
Bascially all what happens is the graphics get corrupted on screen.

In this post SLOW GAME WRITING MESSED UP AND MISSING VIDEO, this guy has similar problems and he has posted screenshots however i dont get the messed up graphics on DREAD LORDS only DARK AVATAR, which is strange making me think its something to do with dark avatar not my graphic card or system.

Thats all i can offer as i cannot post screenshots.
Reply #16 Top
Press the Printscrn key on your keyboard, then press alt and tab at the same time or just exit the game. Open up a graphics program such as MSpaint and paste the image in, then save it. You can upload it to a host such as imageshack.us and post the link here.
Reply #17 Top


i just had enough time to save this screen before my system vrashed back to desktop.hope this helps.
Reply #19 Top
ok heres another image. Now ive reinstalled my graphic drivers nvidia version 93.71 to just make sure and it still messes up.

you can clearly see that certain things on screen are all distorted and messed up. Hope this helps.

Reply #20 Top
There's definitely something VERY wrong with your system. I'll see if Cari has an ideas when she gets in.
Reply #21 Top
lol your saying there is something wrong with my system. well it works fine apart from playing dark avator maybe its a bug in the nvidia graphic drivers however at the moment im using the lastest nvidia drivers for my geforce 4 ti 4600 card "version 93.71".

Ive tried scanning for any viruses ive disabled North Antivirus and Zonealrm Pro for playing DA. Ive even disableds certain background programs to free up resources.

Could it be a certain problem for example Tweak XP Pro which changes certain system options to increase profermance which in turn is effecting DA. Or could it basically be the fact that my system cannot handle DA, The thing is ive never seen this before with other games i play. LOL if i had 2 grand i would go out and buy a new system then it would work HEHE.
Reply #22 Top

Sean Mcdoanald,

Go into My Documents\My Games\GC2DarkAvatar\Prefs.ini and set the display width and height to be the same resoluton as your desktop display resolution.  Also, turn off anti-aliasing.  You can do that from the Prefs.ini as well by setting Multisample=0. 

 

Reply #23 Top
Ok ive just tried that and after a few turns it still gets corrupted graphics.

I going to try a smaller map with less planets etc etc and c if that helps maybe my system cant cope with the mass data which i am using by playing with gigantic size map and max stars, planets etc etc and thats why its crashing. i will get back to you on that in the meantime if it still gets messed up is there anything else you can give me to try and solve this matter.
Reply #24 Top
Could there just be a bug in either the graphic card drivers or something in DA which is making theses corrupted graphics.
Reply #25 Top

If you're blowing out your texture memory, you can reduce the amount of video memory being used by turning off things from the options screen.

Start by turning off the background nebulae and the background stars. 

If you're using ships with a lot of extras on them, see if using ships that are basically hulls with weapons, engines, etc on them helps.

Are you getting a message from Windows saying that you're running out of virtual memory?