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HERE’S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF GAY MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED

HERE’S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF GAY MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED

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Gay marriage proponents are quick to tell us that opposition to gay marriage is not only hateful but an infringement of homosexuals' civil rights. With each passing day, we hear more and more inflammatory remarks from activists who are hell-bent on changing forever the definition of traditional marriage as we know it. What would America be like if fags were allowed to marry?

If gay marriage is adopted, 5,000 years of civilization will be affected. There will not only be social chaos from such an event, but legal validation will also result in moral anarchy in our social climate. It would usurp the traditional components of a union between a husband and a wife. Children do far better when you have a mom and a dad. When society confuses its inhabitants by changing a social order that has been the cornerstone for every major civilization since the beginning of man, the result would be a psychological view that is twisted and sick. Many idiots who have recently decided to support gay marriage have not thought things through to the logical conclusion. Gay marriage would corrupt heterosexual marriage in an effort to make fag relationships legitimate.

Legitimizing gay marriage in Scandinavian countries has been disastrous. With heterosexual marriage being socially de-emphasized in Scandinavia in the early 1990s, traditional marriage was gradually replaced by live-in relationships. Parents in those countries became less committed to their partners and to their children. If this happens in America, we would create a society where the state raises the children. This would be nothing less then sexual anarchy.

If homosexual marriage is validated, we will create a future where children as young as kindergarten are taught that two fags in bed is normal. With laws already in place that actively seek to enforce hate crimes (as loony liberals define them), churches will be forced to marry homosexual couples. Resistance from pastors would result in lawsuits, criminal charges, and hate crime prosecution. It would create a future where churches would lose their religious freedom ... and their tax-free status if pastors take a stand and refuse to marry homosexual couples.

I am convinced that gay marriage will lead to trivializing traditional marriage and will undermine society as a result. As in Europe, people would be embarrassed to be called married. In Europe there is an apostate Christian Church and a secularized immoral government. Without God, there is no absolute moral standards and the secular government makes whatever dumb laws they want to.

If gay marriage is validated in America, we would see polygamist groups in Utah taking legal action to validate those types of marriages. Further we have seen in England and other European states successful legal efforts to lower the age of consent. The Netherlands have even caused adults to form sexual unions in marriage to children.

Once marriage is broken, every type of lifestyle will seek to be confirmed no matter how bizarre and sick it may be. Perhaps this is why homosexual activists have now so deeply identified themselves with their support for trans-gender causes.

It is imperative for Christians to actively defend the institution that is the backbone for civilization itself. We need to communicate our convictions to our friends, to our pastors, and to our political leaders in Washington and our state houses. If we don't, society as we know it may no longer exist. What type of legacy ... what type of future does this leave for the children we love?

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Reply #51 Top
The Bible does, in fact, call for laws. However, they are relics of a different time, when religion and State were one in the same.

D
Reply #52 Top
Hitler and gays? con't....

Hitler's list of people he hated went like this...Jews then Slavs then blacks then gays then...ad nauseum. He killed Gypsies owing to their Jewish roots, and he did kill many, many, many Russians...including POWs. The Reich instituted a policy of rape as it moved through Russia, in order to cleanse Slavic genes. In point of fact...Russia was the prize Hitler wanted most, and he most despised Slavs for having it. His goal was to acquire the vast tracks of Russia, sterilize the Russians, and use them as slave labor to build his 'Aryan' nation.

He also believed white people crash landed on earth on a mighty, icy meteor, founded Atlantis, ruled the globe peacefully until overrun by sub-Aryan brown and Jewish people, and then retreated to the icy north to purify the race.

Even considering the use of this Hitler fellow in a discussion about gay marriage in the US, by either side, is disgusting and ridiculous. If I were Jewish or Russian or black or Gypsy or gay...or anything besides a lame old white dude...then I would be very angry. In fact, I'm getting a little angry by everyone on this site using wrong information in order to justify their point of view. I might write a blog about it.

D
Reply #53 Top
Man.............i did not think this article would get so many people mad!!! i just cant believe so many people are cozying up to the homos these days!!!
Reply #54 Top
So, in your book Marvin 'cozying up to homos' = embracing humanity? Because that's how it seems. Here's a newsflash, Marv: you're a sinner. You, according to YOUR book of faith, are no better than the 'homos' and 'fags' you so vehemently condemn. You're married, aren't you? Here's another piece of info for you: if your wife ever performed fellatio on you, you're guilty of sodomy. If you ever performed cunnlingus on her, you're guilty of sodomy.

I try so hard to not succumb to wanting to hurt you Marvin, but I'm failing miserably.
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Wow. This site is pretty sad, but thank you to some of the intelligent people who have posted. Marvin, whoever you are, I really wanted to say this without being mean, but its very difficult. All I want to say is that its ignorant, closed minded people like you who are ruining this country. The reason you don't approve of homosexuality or same sex marriage is not because of the many so-called reasons you've given, its because you are disgusted by their lifestyles and think that you are better than them. Then you search for reasons to back you up so your position sounds at leat mildly legitimate. Ha. Nice try. I think you sound like an idiot.

The first thing I would like to say is that people do not choose to be gay. The APA (American Psychological Organization) says that people are born homosexual, as do many other studies. Someone else posted said earlier that homosexuality is not inborn; rather, it comes from childhood and experience. Too bad this doesn't help your position. So what if it does? The fact still remains that people don't choose to be gay. No one in their right mind would because they get so much crap (pardon the language, its the best word I could find) from people like you!

You also talked about how allowing same sex marriage will open the doors to other controversial types of marriage. Not so. Other people said this, but here's why: the government's main objective is to protect and promote the rights of its citizens. Polygamy was outlawed (let me reiterate that it IS illegal in all states) because it detracted from the individual rights of the people involved. It also spreads STDs. As for marriage to inanimate objects or animals, if someone can actually get that object or animal to consent to the marriage and sign all the legal forms, so be it! (in other words, its impossible). Same sex marriage doesn't ruin marriage, it just changes it to promote the rights of all people in the country (about 10% of the population is homosexual).

Another point off of that, I'm sure you already know this, but for some reason you just don't seem to care, but marriage brings about 1,400 benefits, most of which are not given with civil unions. Even if they were, just the fact that certain people's unions are given a different name is segregation in itself. Seperate is rarely if ever equal, my friend.

Any other arguments or questions, feel free to post.

~Molly :)
Reply #56 Top
This remark doesn't deserve to start as a letter. Denmark has legalized gay marriage for quit some time. I have lived in Denmark for 16 years, not once has there been any questionable pariages going on. You are ignorant dear sir. Quit ignorant. Denmark has "managed" to go about day to day routine without riots. The religious clergy were against gay marriage... Until the suicide rate decreased, along with devorce rate... YOU SUCK!!!!!!
Reply #57 Top
The first thing I would like to say is that people do not choose to be gay. The APA (American Psychological Organization) says that people are born homosexual, as do many other studies.


Then those studies are wrong, as identical twins with the same genes but not always the same sexuality, prove.
Reply #58 Top
In the Bible, Man and woman were married with to main pupose of procreation. To procreate you need sperm and an egg. Now even though I am not a medical practitioner, biologically speaking gays cannot procreate as a couple. Historically speaking this defeats the purpose of a marriage.
Reply #59 Top
"In the Bible, Man and woman were married with to main pupose of procreation. To procreate you need sperm and an egg. Now even though I am not a medical practitioner, biologically speaking gays cannot procreate as a couple. Historically speaking this defeats the purpose of a marriage. "

Since when is the purpose of a marriage to have kids? We still allow infertile people to marry. There are married couples without children. Ther purpose of marriage is because two people love each other.

"Then those studies are wrong, as identical twins with the same genes but not always the same sexuality, prove."

You seemed to have missed the part where I said that others say that it is a learned or acquired behavior, because my point there was not to prove to you how people happen to be homosexual (scientists don't even know this for sure). The point was that people don't choose to be gay, no matter how they get that way.
Reply #60 Top
The problem is that evidence points to it being an acquired behavior. Now maybe they don't consciously choose to be gay though, just like I don't consciously choose to like a certain type of music.
Reply #61 Top
Actually they still do in Bountiful, British Columbia. A small town that started as a colony or comune. It isnt legal though. I wrote a paper based on newspaper articles a couple years ago for an anthropology class. I belive there is even a book on that place.
Reply #62 Top
When I said they still do I ment a certain group of mormons in bountiful bc. still practice polygamy
Reply #63 Top
Wow where are you coming from man.. I'm a norwegian chick and I grew up with a lesbian mum. She has been married to another woman since 1994, and I consider them both as my parents. I have never had any problems at all, and to be honest, when I grew up in Oslo I did not even think about that my parents were differet from my friends. Oslo is a very multi cultural city, my friends were native norwegians, others somalian, from pakistan and india...some had a mum and a dad others had two mothers..nobody cared.. Because it is not about that.. My parents have given me the best childhood ever, and gave me a extremely good start on my life. They thought me all about being open minded, following my dreams and loving life, because it is truly beautiful. It is people like you that hurts me, not people on the street, neighbours, friends or class mates.. people like you, beleiving that you know.. you dont know anything my friend so please leave it!! You would probably be surprised even to hear that I am not a lesbian, although I grew up in a lesbian family. I'm just very open minded to everything in life, which is a fantastic thing... Linda
Reply #64 Top
OH NO! I CAN'T FIND MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON TO TURN THE CAPITAL LETTERS OFF! EVERYTHING I TYPE IS A FEAR TACTIC! I'M SO PARANOID I SLEEP UNDER MY BED!
Reply #65 Top
Reply to BriRyJor: I absolutely agree with you. And Marvin Cooley is on the mark in his article. In Canada soon the federal government will change the definition of marriage to include same-sex. 5 of 10 provinces have already permitted same-sex marriage. There is legislation already written for when same-sex marriage is fully legalized which will require Christian churches to have on their board of directors: 1. A homosexual representative, 2. A feminist representative, and 3. A government representative; to ensure compliance that churches do not discrimminate against performing same-sex marriage. There was also a bill introduced by a homosexual MP in the Canadian Parliment to ban Scriptures in the Bible pertaining to the condemnation of the sin of homosexuality as well as any references that offend feminists as hate literature. As a Christian I can see the day approaching when the true churches will be forced to go underground - holding meetings in private homes, like in the Book of Acts when "they went house to house". The only good thing will be it will separate the "goats" from the "sheep". America beware! And watch what happens in Canada.
Reply #66 Top
So you think that, if I marry my dog is fine? That's where it will be going...society goes down hill. When I look at the history of the Jew and others races near the middle east, you see how sad the people without God. Read Genesis Ch.18-19
Reply #67 Top

if I marry my dog is fine


why would your dog agree to something so degrading?

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BriRyJor : "It needs to be said, for the sake of this conversation that comparing gays to the historical plights of blacks and jews is totally bogus. These people have suffered through genocide, slavery, and sufferage. Gays definitely are not being marched to the gas chamber."

You need to get a history lesson...gays were in fact rounded up, tortured, and subjected to medical experimention by the Nazis. I have written extensively on this subject.

"Hitler was willing to kill everyone except for white german christians."

Wrong. Hitler's murderous tyranny was calculated and targeted towards specific groups. His murderous rage was not random.

Marvin Cooley, this has to be one of the most offensive and uninformed posts I have ever read. You are entitled to your opinions but you have gone out of your way to be offensive, mean, and ridiculously outrageous. As such, people will treat this article as it deserves to be treated...with contempt. It just so happens that Holland has troops in Iraq...how wonderful of you to malign them while they are serving along side of our troops.

"I am convinced that gay marriage will lead to trivializing traditional marriage and will undermine society as a result. As in Europe, people would be embarrassed to be called married."

What the hell do you know about Europeans or their culture? From what you wrote, apparently nothing. Have you ever even BEEN to Europe? How many Europeans do you know? Having lived in Holland I can tell you that gay marriage has NOT adversely affected their insitution of marriage one bit. People continue to get married there as they always have and they are certainly not embarrassed about it. You make all of these rash and wild statements about Europeans but cite to no sources for your information which is typical of someone who does not want others to know what the source of that infomation is. What source did you use to come to the conclusion that Europeans are embarassed about marriage because gays can get married in Holland or in any other Euro nation? And just for your information, children are not permitted to get married in Holland. Your assertions appear to be based on nothing more than your own misguided thinking and personal prejudices.
Reply #69 Top
While I agree with marvin's premise....his choice of certain words does tend to deflect from his arguement....gay & lesbian married couples cant reproduce which is a major cornerstone of marriage throughout history (sorry, invetro and other means dont count)...those pushing for gay marriage want this country on some level to be as enlightened as our "friends" in Europe...too bad even Europe aint as enlightened as they puff themselves up to be...even legal gay marriage isnt wide spread there....
Reply #70 Top
THE RECENT ELECTION SHOWS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WISELY AGREE WITH ME. WE CANNOT ALLOW HOMOS TO PUSH THEIR EVIL WAYS UPON US AND OUR CHILDREN.
Reply #71 Top
It is imperative for Christians to actively defend the institution that is the backbone for civilization itself.


Notice how marvy thinks the backbone of of civilization is christianity? Notice how he'd like to turn the world into a bunch of fundamentalist christians. Notice how he is a racist, anti-semetic, nazi loving, homophobe.

You can believe anything you want, marvy, but don't expect people to buy into your bullshit in any significant numbers. The homophobia thing is certainly controvertial. But, I would never stand by and let fundamentalist christians like you take over our constitution. Hey, ever here of the notion of separation of church and state? Probably a concept you can't fathom. In fact, if this country becomes a fundamentalist christian nation, we will be no better than any fundamentalist religious society, including those that dictate Islam for its citizens, or those who ban religion all together.

You're a hateful SOB, marvy.. Not much else I can say, except your fears are based on so much misinformation, it's sick.
Reply #72 Top

Reply #70 By: Marvin Cooley - 12/12/2004 3:38:25 AM
THE RECENT ELECTION SHOWS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WISELY AGREE WITH ME. WE CANNOT ALLOW HOMOS TO PUSH THEIR EVIL WAYS UPON US AND OUR CHILDREN.


Right. Because once they're allowed to marry, everyone else will magically start becoming gay!