[quote]t's about ensuring that there are different and roughly balanced ways to min/max, not just one stat to end all stats, not just one successful strategy that trumps all others.[/quote] See this is what I don't get. You can't use custom sovs in multiplayer so why does it matter if there is ONE silly min max that you can walk over the AI with? Just cause it's there doesn't mean you have to use it.
[quote who="Cruxador" reply="18" id="2866750"] Nobody was proposing that. A drastic adjustment of points costs and some game systems is what's in order.[/quote] Bah double post intstead of edit. No one proposed that but thats the only way your going to see real balance is removing all or reducing in part the customizations options.
[quote]The fact that a goal is not ultimately attainable does not mean that we should act as though the entire concept is an impossibility. Consider, if you will, the latest two iterations of D&D. Both can do just about all of the same things (although 3.5 is bad for more than a few types of games, and some systems have not yet been ported to 4e). Now, consider the balance. In 3.5, you can play a Wizard, or you can suck. In 4e, some feats and powers may be slightly better than others, but
[quote who="Corbeaubm" reply="16" id="2866738"] Quoting Fistalis, reply 12 Name one game that had a plethora of customization options that is balanced and cannot be min maxed in some way? Gratuitous Space Battles. No, really, it's extremely min-maxable, with some pieces of equipment being effectively useless, but there are always other min-maxed strategies to counter any single min-maxed strategy. Hell, it's the same principle that Starcraft operates on - there are
[quote who="Cruxador" reply="11" id="2866719"] Quoting Fistalis, reply 8Balance is thrown out the door when you include customization. ... You can NEVER provide a large amount of customization options while maintaining balance.This is false for all practical purposes. The fact that it is difficult does not mean it is impossible. Furthermore, even if you consider it to be ultimately impossible, striving for an unattainable perfection nonetheless can make the game better, so complaining ab
[quote who="Corbeaubm" reply="7" id="2866701"]If you prefer terrible balance in your games, I don't think that we have any basis for communication. Game balance does not somehow prevent atmosphere or imagination.[/quote] Balance is thrown out the door when you include customization. IF you wanted balance you would be using the default sovs. You can NEVER provide a large amount of customization options while maintaining balance. Any long stin
[quote who="Corbeaubm" reply="4" id="2866694"] Nope - you can get even more points by downgrading your stats from the default values. My sov had 5 in every stat save Charisma - and that's worth a bunch (which gave 75 extra, on top of the base 50).[/quote] Ya i realized that seconds after your post. I don't see the point though. You can min/max silly stuff like this in just about every game. There's whole sites based on the best min maxing of character skills et
[quote who="Corbeaubm" reply="2" id="2866689"] Quoting Fistalis, reply 1I don't get it.. you cheat then bitch that the game is broken when you cheat... Limited Sov creation points is a huge limiting factor. You create a super sov via cheating and then go on to say the game is broken because your faction with the super sov does so well. Try reading. I not only built my Sov within the rules, I built it in such an underpowered way that I had 92 point
[e digicons]:grin:[/e] Edited to remove my silly assumption
[quote who="gmot" reply="10" id="2866665"]I disagree with all posters here and in every other thread. You are all a bunch of fucking idiots. I feel special now. Was that clever, petty or both? [/quote]Both. Also amusing, and an interesting paradox..But your not special... i don't care what your mom tells you
[quote who="Cruxador" reply="2" id="2866630"]This is not nearly so clever as I suspect you feel it is. It is rather petty.[/quote] To be fair both topics are petty.
[e digicons]:rofl:[/e] Call out the instigator.. Because theres something in the air....
[quote who="Cruxador" reply="11" id="2866601"] I strongly suspect that he is of the opinion that the Elemental forums are not something which should be in such a state that parents would want to keep their kids off of it. It's a fairly legitimate point, though I don't think Stardock's target market is young enough that this is a huge concern.[/quote] You missed my point though.. whats acceptable to one parent is unacceptable to another. Which parents do we censor for and which on
[quote who="MichaelCook" reply="9" id="2866592"]I sometimes agree with the OP when I come here. I am also a realist and understand that while Stardock allow the language on the forum then it will be used by somebody, even if to just annoy those don't like it. Neither do I think Stardock should police language, but sometimes I think that I wouldn't like children on these forums, reading what some people post. Sometimes.[/quote] Ah yes.. we sh
[quote]UFO's and Aliens. Do they exist?[/quote] UFO's by definition exist.. of course. Anytime someone sees something flying and can't identify it.. its a UFO. Aliens.. by that i'm guessing you mean extraterrestrial life. Of course.. how egotistical must a person be to believe we are the only planet that supports life in the vastness of the universe. Intelligent life on other planets? Have they visited earth? now those are the big questions that imo ARE up for debate.<
[quote who="Heavenfall" reply="3" id="2866563"]Have sexual intercourse with that feces. Don't need a thought police.[/quote] Quote edited for illustration. Yes.. using the non taboo words is MUCH better.... [e digicons]:rofl:[/e]
ya lets stifle the free exchange of ideas by being puritanical with forum moderation. You all should be ashamed for using accepted words of the english language.. that some people insist, without any logical base for their claims, are somehow less moral or wrong to use. Cause you know when comparing 2 words with the exact same meaning it makes perfect sense to label one as taboo and one as acceptable.
[quote who="Lonemessiah" reply="95" id="2866512"]I honestly think some people would complain even if the 'expansion' came with a ball tickler attachment. [/quote] The elemental crystal ball tickler.. where do i sign up for that, and is it powered via USB?
[quote]18. Custom sovereign starting appearance is randomized (so you don't start with the same model every time).[/quote] I don't get this. Whats the point of customizing your appearance if it changes everytime. Oh wait.. are you talking when you enter the customization menu? Cause I was thinking every game it would change and was like wtf.
[quote who="HighQ" reply="10" id="2866501"]I knew this! I've always imagined Toby slaving away or coming up with ideas, and Kael and Frogboy off playing foosball or Call of Duty together laughing. WTH is foosball? I know football, soccer and Fußball. ^^[/quote] Table football, or Table soccer. You might know it as Fußball or kicker, or any other of the many different names its called depending on your regional dialect. <a href="http://e
[quote who="DrAtomic1" reply="6" id="2866470"] Jeff Colvin (Programmer)- Jeff is implementing FPS mode for Elemental*. Correction Jeff Colvin (Programmer)- Jeff is working on a X-Com: UFO Defense like tactical experience, complete with destructable environments which will replace the current tactical environment and will be used for exploration encounters.[/quote] ya that was the joke.. I ignored the name and zoomed in on the concept it denotes wh
[quote] Jon’s job is to take the blame for the things I do wrong.[/quote] *after i stopped laughing* Sorry kael.. just because you have the scapegoat du jour working under you doesn't mean you get to pass the blame. Your lead designer.. you get stuck with your name on the final product. [e digicons];)[/e] [quote]* This is a joke, there will be no FPS mode in Elemental.[/quote] got my hopes up and everything... [e digicons]:'([/e]
[e digicons]O:)[/e] As far as i'm concerned elemental doesn't have multiplayer. It has a multiplayer mini game mode
[quote who="Alstein" reply="20" id="2865935"]The only thing SD really wants is a dropbox account, which is actually a useful thing to have for other reasons. Dropbox just requires an email- make a dummy email if you need it. I don't think the request is particularly oneroua. [/quote] Doesn't even have to be drop box.. any file hosting site will do. As long as you can post a link to the file and they can access it wi
[quote who="Kantok" reply="65" id="2866363"] Quoting Frogboy, reply 62 You get Fallen Enchantress for free. And if you were one of the first purchasers, you get the next one free too. Does this mean I have to stop calling the Maryland State Attorney General over and over now? I was having fun...[/quote] I don't pay taxes to maryland so waste his time and maryland taxpayers money all you want...
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