Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Sunday, October 23, 2005I don't think it is any more sensible to rate Christianity by the dark ages than it is to rate Islam by terrorism. Religions evolve, expelling the worse parts over time. The most heinous act of ignorance would be to dismiss religion as a whole

only when someone is trying to say how evil religion WAS. As a JEW i have as much reason to dislike Christians as anyone.
My fathers people were made to leave Spain during the inquisition in 1493,I got over it.

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Sunday, October 23, 2005have NOT seen the joke in question, please remit so I can laugh.I will research it and attribute it for the nazi squad.

um love ya like a brother doc, but no sniper in the woods stuff ok?

Sounds like you and I believe in the same God.

Not hard to do!

only when someone is trying to say how evil religion WAS. As a JEW i have as much reason to dislike Christians as anyone. My fathers people were made to leave Spain during the inquisition in 1493,I got over it.

YOur father and my father were brothers.  The others forgot that, and for that, I am truly sorry.

#80 by Dr. Guy Sunday, October 23, 2005

Sounds like you and I believe in the same God. Not hard to do!

sounds like the three of us have the same GOD.

#81 by Dr. Guy Sunday, October 23, 2005

only when someone is trying to say how evil religion WAS. As a JEW i have as much reason to dislike Christians as anyone. My fathers people were made to leave Spain during the inquisition in 1493,I got over it. YOur father and my father were brothers. The others forgot that, and for that, I am truly sorry.

well then that would make us cousins right? No guilt doc, unlike the blacks in america I ain't about to reach back in time to find more stuff to bitch about.

alright, My personal belief system is that of spirituality, I have a powerful belief in GOD, but practice no "organized religion" I have felt for many years, Satan created "religion" in order to keep us separate from one another, constantly at war with each other because in our collective minds we know our particular brand of religion is best.

I think this best describes my religious belief. Thanx for putting it so easy for me MM. I had been trying for a while to define my religion. And your thought basically resemble my beliefs as well so enough said. The ball stays in your court.

well then that would make us cousins right? No guilt doc, unlike the blacks in america I ain't about to reach back in time to find more stuff to bitch about.

It's your blog and your right to bitch if you want to.  I have no problem. I wish I could do more, but the last I checked, the Last time the Jews slaughter a bunch of people was during King David?  I am not sure of the reign (but when all those guys got circumcised....)

the Last time the Jews slaughter a bunch of people was during King David?

Baruch Goldstein in 1994 killed 29 and injured about 100 in the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron.

The positive thing to point out here is that only a small minority of Israelis supported his actions -- the government and the populace in general condemmed him as an immoral extremist and a terrorist.

2002 the IDF raid on the Jenin refugee camps had both survivors, Palestinians and international observers claiming that the army had committed excesses on the mostly civilian population.

Reply By: DJBanditPosted: Wednesday, October 26, 2005alright, My personal belief system is that of spirituality, I have a powerful belief in GOD, but practice no "organized religion"I have felt for many years, Satan created "religion" in order to keep us separate from one another, constantly at war with each other because in our collective minds we know our particular brand of religion is best.I think this best describes my religious belief. Thanx for putting it so easy for me MM. I had been trying for a while to define my religion. And your thought basically resemble my beliefs as well so enough said. The ball stays in your court.

wonderfull always a pleasure to meet someone of "like mind"

Reply By: sunwukongPosted: Wednesday, October 26, 2005the Last time the Jews slaughter a bunch of people was during King David?Baruch Goldstein in 1994 killed 29 and injured about 100 in the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron.The positive thing to point out here is that only a small minority of Israelis supported his actions -- the government and the populace in general condemned him as an immoral extremist and a terrorist.2002 the IDF raid on the Jenin refugee camps had both survivors, Palestinians and international observers claiming that the army had committed excesses on the mostly civilian population.

I will be more than happy to sit and compare Jews killing anyone, with how many Jews have been slaughtered over thousands of years, that is not to excuse Jews from committing crimes but to put some perspective on it.

Reply By: sunwukong

Leave it to a supposed liberal to come up with something totally irrelevant and anti semetic.

Why do you hate jews so much?  really.

I said the Jewish people, not some whack job. WHy dont you tell them about Jeffrrey Dahmer as well, I hear he was Jewish. How about Herman Goeriung - he was part Jewish. Pathetic

#89 by Dr. Guy Wednesday, October 26, 2005

Leave it to a supposed liberal to come up with something totally irrelevant and anti semetic. Why do you hate jews so much? really. I said the Jewish people, not some whack job. WHy dont you tell them about Jeffrrey Dahmer as well, I hear he was Jewish. How about Herman Goeriung - he was part Jewish. Pathetic

liberal causes are what is in vogue and it's always in vogue to hate jews.

Leave it to a supposed liberal to come up with something totally irrelevant and anti semetic.

I call bullshit. Please point out the anti-semitism in the statements.

In fact, please point out the liberal statements in the post as well.

You made a universal statement

the Last time the Jews slaughter a bunch of people was during King David?

I pointed out two instances in the near past where at least a minority of the Jewish people supported the actions where non-combatants were killed.

Are you saying that refuting any positive statement about Jews is anti-semitic? How would you refute the false statement without incurring such charges? What about the Stern Gang?

From your perspective, if I had pointed out instances of the same scale where Islamic terrorists were involved, would I be anti-Islam?

liberal causes are what is in vogue and it's always in vogue to hate jews.

Again, mindless partisan bullshit.

Please point out the so-called "hatred" involved in the previous posts.

92 by sunwukong Wednesday, October 26, 2005

liberal causes are what is in vogue and it's always in vogue to hate jews. Again, mindless partisan bullshit. Please point out the so-called "hatred" involved in the previous posts.

the above staement is my statement as a jew and how I feel, I never pointed at you in anyway, but. if the shoe fits? hmm???My feelings are just that, feelings ok?

the above staement is my statement as a jew and how I feel, I never pointed at you in anyway,

To you I apologize for calling you on the carpet for such a blanket statement -- it's easy to infer that you were pointing fingers by openly quoting Dr Guy's accusations.

but. if the shoe fits? hmm???

Again, proof of any sort, please.

My feelings are just that, feelings ok?

Sure.

Reply By: sunwukongPosted: Wednesday, October 26, 2005the above staement is my statement as a jew and how I feel, I never pointed at you in anyway,To you I apologize for calling you on the carpet for such a blanket statement -- it's easy to infer that you were pointing fingers by openly quoting Dr Guy's accusations.but. if the shoe fits? hmm???Again, proof of any sort, please.

I think the use of BUT in the above staement is self explainatory.

Reply By: sunwukongPosted: Wednesday, October 26, 2005the above staement is my statement as a jew and how I feel, I never pointed at you in anyway,To you I apologize for calling you on the carpet for such a blanket statement -- it's easy to infer that you were pointing fingers by openly quoting Dr Guy's accusations.but. if the shoe fits? hmm???Again, proof of any sort, please.

I think the use of BUT in the above statement is self explainatory.

I call bullshit. Please point out the anti-semitism in the statements. In fact, please point out the liberal statements in the post as well.

You used one whack job to tar an entire people.  Sounds like a racists to me.  Dont get coy.  If I used Juan Corona to paint all mexicans, would I not be a racist?  Hell Yes!

Dont Pussy foot around.  you want to be an Anti-Semite, fine.  Dont hide behind nuances like the KKK does.

the Last time the Jews slaughter a bunch of people was during King David? I pointed out two instances in the near past where at least a minority of the Jewish people supported the actions where non-combatants were killed.

You see that is your hypocrisy. I said The Jews.  Not a Jew.  Not a couple of Jews.  The Jews.  You then pointed out a couple of extremists.  Now you are bobbing and wearing and saying minority. 

You lost. Give it up.

Hmm, I wonder if all those Germans who worked in bomb factories in WW2 were soldiers? If the Palestinian people support Hamas and decide to allow bomb factories to function in their neighborhoods, are they really "innocent"? When Israel is attacked, they fight back. It isn't their fault that civilians in palestine willingly act as human shields.

You used one whack job to tar an entire people

And you made a universal declaration that sought to falsely angelize an entire people.

With respect to Goldstein, do you deny there was a very vocal minority that supported his actions and view him as a hero? Do you deny that this group regards Goldstein's actions as a positive action for the Jewish people? At what point (a majority? an assigned leadership group?) would you say the actions can be assigned to "The Jews"?

Do you actually mean to say, "The last time at least the majority of Jews slaughtered a bunch of people was during King David?"

Or did you mean to say, "The last time a Jewish group slaughtered a bunch of people was during King David?"

The first is laughable -- attribute it to any other widely-distributed people, "The last time at least the majority of Acadians slaughtered a bunch of people ..." and it becomes some bizarre basis for paranoia (a world wide Cajun conspiracy to commit murder).

When you say, "The Jews", who are you attributing this label to such that they can perform the action of killing a bunch of people?

1. An individual (e.g., Goldstein) with the support of the extremist settler and religious community -- not a candidate because the majority of Jews don't support his actions?

2. Israeli military units (e.g., IDF at Jenin) -- not a candidate because Israel =!= all Jews and IDF =!= all Israel?

3. ???

You lost. Give it up.

You seem to like these unilateral declarations of victory. You must've been the type of student that wrote, "I leave the remains of this proof as an exercise for the teacher."

If the Palestinian people support Hamas and decide to allow bomb factories to function in their neighborhoods, are they really "innocent"?

Alright, what about the Palestinians that don't support Hamas? Most likely they still have bomb factories in their neighbourhoods and can do little except inform. For those that choose not to take that risky route (and it can mean a harsh death at the hands of Hamas or others in the community), are they innocent? Their proximity to the factories means that their homes and families will suffer when retaliation comes. What if they didn't know a factory was nearby?

And you made a universal declaration that sought to falsely angelize an entire people.

Wrong again. I was not angelizing anyone. I was making a statement of fact. I never said that Jews commit no crimes. point to it and show me where I did. Please.

you cant, because it is not there. Dont go excusing your behavior now with lame excuses.