France pays middle class women to be whores

Oooops, not Whores, just baby machines....

What was it they used to say about the U.S.A.? Oh yea, "What a country!" (read that with a Yakov Smirnov funny Russian accent).

Now they might have to use that label on France, considering that the French government is apparently going to start handing out money to encourage middle class women there to have more kids.

Considering that most of the world has been encouraged to be zero population growth, apparently things are going to well in France, and there's really not enough growth, or there's concern among some that France isn't generating enough people to run away from any future wars.

Anyway, article below is clipped from the Washington Times (originally from London papers). Please see original for entire article.





Having a third baby really pays off for French women

By Colin Randall
LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
September 21, 2005


PARIS -- Middle-class French women will be offered cash incentives to have a third child amid growing concerns that professional couples are having too few children.
Although France's fertility rate of 1.9 for each couple is relatively high among European countries, family lobbyists are dismayed by a fall in the number of babies born to better-educated women.
The government will announce its proposals tomorrow when Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, the father of three children, presides at a conference on family life. A big increase in allowances has been widely predicted.
France's National Union of Family Associations, which is known by its French acronym UNAF and is playing a key role in shaping policy, said the figure should be set at up to $1,250 a month for women with three children, double the present maximum, and should be set according to the woman's salary.
Despite the budgetary implications in a country that is already accused of living extravagantly, the government agrees with the principle and is said to be finalizing the details of a "very significant" initiative.
Given France's egalitarian ideals, the notion of creating perks to attract professional mothers did not go down well with the socialist opposition.
Although class or racial issues have been sidestepped, there is a suspicion on the left that the ruling center-right regards the existing system as favoring those with little work ethic who live on handouts.
"The poor current level of compensation appeals only to those on lower incomes," said UNAF President Hubert Brin.
"This is not just a French problem but affects Europe in general. In Germany, as many as 40 percent of professional women turn their backs on maternity.
"Ask a professional woman these days to make a definitive choice between having a career and having babies, and she'll choose the former."
Demographic trends in Muslim and non-Muslim communities are rarely mentioned in public debate. France has the largest Muslim community in Europe, estimated at up to 10 percent of its 60 million population.
"France is facing the problem that dare not speak its name," columnist Barbara Amiel wrote in 2004 for the London Telegraph.



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Oooops, not Whores, just baby machines....

You've really sunk to a new low with that.
Reply #2 Top
How is this different from the US welfare services paying more if you have more kids?
Aren'y they also encouraging more "whoring"?
Reply #3 Top
How is this different from the US welfare services paying more if you have more kids?


I don't think it's much difference. Both are stupid policies.
Reply #4 Top
..At least they're being paid now..
Reply #5 Top

Who cares, it's France?
Reply #6 Top
France's National Union of Family Associations, which is known by its French acronym UNAF and is playing a key role in shaping policy, said the figure should be set at up to $1,250 a month for women with three children, double the present maximum, and should be set according to the woman's salary.


Doesn't it hurt the economy if you remove professionals from jobs and make them produce babies when there are women available who can produce babies without giving up a job?

France is actually paying people to leave their jobs? And France pays more the more valuable that employee was for the economy?

This is really scary.
Reply #7 Top
mothers = whores?

Surely that's not what you're saying.

I think Andrew's hit on some important stuff in his reply above. In what way is this beneficial to France? This seems like a really bad idea.
Reply #8 Top
And who says Nazism is the domain of the right? If you read this article closely, the clear objective of this program is eugenics (more children born to BETTER EDUCATED women).
Reply #9 Top
Well, a women who has sex for money is a whore. I think the implication here is that women in France will follow the US tradition of having kids for income. In some cases the women would no doubt have the kids in traditional families, but you have to admit in the US many women are basically paid off for their promiscuity.

"And who says Nazism is the domain of the right? If you read this article closely, the clear objective of this program is eugenics (more children born to BETTER EDUCATED women)."


True. It seems odd that they are paying for the THIRD child, though. The people they are describing don't have kids at all, or only have one. It seems the people they want to target are never going to have three kids.
Reply #10 Top
little whip: Hahahaha, ok, you busted me. (I hardly ever read linked articles...call me lazy)

"At the same time, Muslims already living on the continent are having three times as many children as their white, European neighbors," the Pew report said. "


Very interesting. You know, as hoity toity as France is to the US over our military actions regarding Muslim countries, it's interesting that they seem to be the ones most willing to marginalize Muslims and strip them of their rights (remember the whole thing with schools and Muslim headdress?).
Reply #11 Top
France pays lip service to muslim countries for economic reasons. Oil, mainly, but also because they need a good supply of peasants. Culturally, they have always been elitist and borderline xenophobic about other cultures "contaminating" their own.

Europe is suffering from their previous racist ideals. The US is too, in a way. We want these people to come in and fill ultra-low paying jobs, but then we don't want to see them any other time.
Reply #12 Top
Who cares, it's France?


Yeah!!

But they want to make sure there are enough French people to go to war if the need ever arises! One distinct advantage when strategy isn't your strong suit......overwhelming numbers!
Reply #13 Top
mothers = whores?Surely that's not what you're saying. I think Andrew's hit on some important stuff in his reply above. In what way is this beneficial to France? This seems like a really bad idea.


Not at all in calling the mother's Whores, Tex. The headline was used for shock value. The sub-head is far closer to correct, and you are the most correct in pointing out that these are mothers, specifically targetted at middle class, which are hopefully parts of well grounded family units.

The sub-head I used was trying to point out the stupidity of the policy though, as in effect France is now paying these women to be nothing more than baby machines. That is really the problem. It smacks of things I remember watching as bad B-movie SciFi stuff, and other futuristic type views of a future where the government decides who can live for how long, who can reproduce, and other such things. Think, for example, of say Logan's Run.

It's an ignorant policy, or at least one that seems to take much more enlightment than I might ever achieve to consider "normal".
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I do think France's program should be stopped, though. Let them reap what they've sown, and have their nation taken over by Muslims. Just as America will soon reap what she's sown, too, when Hispanics outnumber blacks, whites, and every other ethnic group combined. It's already well on its way to becoming a reality.


How would a France full of Mohammedans be good for anyone but the Mohammedans themselves? Nuclear armed and controlling a giant swath of Europe? Time to start deporting the Mohammedan population who pledges no loyalty (but rather hostility) to France and the West in general, and encouraging the French themselves to rebuild their homeland. If July 7th and the aftermath didn't make it clear to all of you what Islam is all about, then there's little hope for any of us.
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You all miss the main point. And that is, not even babies want to be French!
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Uhm, they don't go to war. They surrender


That deserves an insightful! HAHA.
Reply #17 Top
I'll turn that around a bit. How would an America full of Mexicans be good for anyone but the Mexicans themselves?

Oh wait, that's a racist remark. My bad.


Racist? Perhaps. True? Absolutely. Vast quantities of Mexicans in the United States hasn't been good for anyone but the Mexican government and Big Business in America.
Reply #18 Top
"And who says Nazism is the domain of the right?"

Sorry, Gid I'll reply to that question when I can stop guffawing at your description of Chirac as Left! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

BTW, we also already do this in Australia: it got Johnny Howard back in with a $600 bribe to all new mums (even if you already have kids). No different. Everyone (bar China) does this.
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Muslims already living on the continent are having three times as many children as their white, European neighbors.


As opposed to their non-white European neighbours?
Reply #20 Top
That's funny how things are seen.
Me, I'm just thinking that this kind of stuf would allow us to have a third kid while still being able to pay the house, and to be sure he/she will be raised right, by his/her mother, and not some (paid) strangers.
Already, my wife has stopped working for one to three (and it will be 3) years, to take care of the children (4 and 17 months): she's only getting 500 euros/month to do that. We're doing that not because she does not want to work, but because we believe a toddler should be as most as possible with its parents.
In a choice betwen having more money, or having happier, better cared kids, we have chosen.
Reply #21 Top
she's only getting 500 euros/month to do that.


Well, give her more money.
Reply #22 Top
Doesn't it hurt the economy if you remove professionals from jobs and make them produce babies when there are women available who can produce babies without giving up a job?


How much more can you hurt european economies, they are already bad.


"Given current birthrates, it is not impossible that in 25 years France will have a Muslim majority. The consequences are dynamic: Is it possible that secular France might become an Islamic state?" Ms. Amiel wrote.


Paristan. That's what toleration islamists will get you.
Reply #23 Top
Island dog :
just google for "Weak Brits, Tough French" (the Daniel Pipes Article), and you will be a little less ignorant.
Even Little Green Footballs is telling it :
"when it comes to the War on Islamic Terror, the relative positions of Britain and France are not what you might expect"
Reply #24 Top
There is nothing ignorant about France becoming an islamic state.
Reply #25 Top

Sorry, Gid I'll reply to that question when I can stop guffawing at your description of Chirac as Left! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

You're quite possibly the FIRST person to declare that Socialists are right wing. Ahhh, well, just keep redefining words to suit you.