I need The Skins Factory and Kona to read this, please

I need The Skins Factory and Kona to read this, please

Thanks guys for you interest in helping end horse slaughter in America. I have sent you both an email via The Humane Society so you can ask your state Senators to support the Sweeney-Sprat bill to end this horrible act. It is not spam! Thanks again, I really appreciate it, and also left you a comment in my Save the Domestic Horse thread. Take care. Cindi
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As I see it, we need to take care of every one and everything. The difference between man and animal is, man has free will and is in charge of his life and where it goes. Animals that are not running free are subject to man. They no longer have any control over their own life. Which I know has happened to millions of people too, and is another topic. But no living being on earth should be precluded because of another. Not man or animal. I am into helping all life on earth.
And while I feel for the homeless more than you know, and have fed and clothed them in my life, I feel alot of them are there by choice. Alot are not. Some people are just too lazy to make something out of their life, while others think the world owes them something, and they die waiting to get it. And I would also like to say that it apparently isn't very popular among some people for America to stand up against the tyrants that supress, kill and torture their fellow man. There has been one belly ache over it after another. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

And Kona, you have no need to appologize to me. You have to live with yourself, and I have to live with myself. If you like how you are, what should it matter to you what I think of your eating habits? I am just greatful that there is not a species out there bigger and stronger than us that could round us up, torture us, and skin us alive so they have something fresh to eat, that satisfies their pallet. I know the bears and certain animals kill man everyday, but they do keep us locked up, or round us up first. They only do it to survive. We do not need all these different animals to mistreat and then eat to survive. Maybe it is payback for all of man's inconsiderations to the animal world.
Reply #27 Top
The difference between man and animal is, man has free will and is in charge of his life and where it goes. Animals that are not running free are subject to man. They no longer have any control over their own life. Which I know has happened to millions of people too, and is another topic.


If you read the Bible - we are supposed to have control over all animals. I don't see that as a problem.

Anyhow - CHET had a good point. So did you. I'm somewhere in-between you both.
Reply #28 Top
We do not have Gods permission to torture and mistreat anything or anyone. Control does not have to be a negative. Control to me would mean keeping something safe and happy. Keeping something or someone from destructive or destroyed. Not to kill and mame at will or because it suits our fancy. If God was that much into control, he wouldn't have given us free will, and he would have taken control over us by now and ended the horrible things going on here. I will say one thing, it has been a pleasure to discuss our different opinions with out getting ugly and hateful over it. That is a rare thing these days. I am the kind of person that responds to the way I am treated with the same treatment back, and you have been a gentleman, and for that I thank you.
Reply #30 Top
in places like Rwanda,


Btw JourneyMan DigitalChet, Hotel Rhowanda is one of my favorite movies.
Reply #31 Top
Why should we leave religion out of it Night Train when in fact religion guides most people's decisions about such issues?
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precluded


Sorry, should be excluded.
Reply #33 Top
Why should we leave religion out of it Night Train when in fact religion guides most people's decisions about such issues?


If there is a God, and He has a plan for humankind, then it's only common sense to pay attention and it affects every decision that we make. If there is no God, none of it matters anyway. I believe that there is, so His instruction manual is the only standard for me to live by.
Reply #34 Top
omg....A holy war. what is this, the time of the crusades? get ahold of yourself! Can i sign that petition for you clwoods?

My name is: Keith MacDonald
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Sorry, Z. Didn't mean to have a conversation that excluded asterisks.
Reply #36 Top

Man's inhumanity should be reserved for his fellow man, not be extended to lording it over more noble creatures than himself.

We deserve our own stupidity....aka live by the sword - die by the sword ...aka gun control, etc.

I think whales should be exempt from man's folly....

Reply #37 Top
Jafo - no offense - but I don't think any animal is more noble than mankind. Sorry.
Reply #38 Top
- but I don't think any animal is more noble than mankind.


May be true, but one is a victim and the other is an initiator of mis-management.
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Paul's a "dick-head"
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Interesting - so we are told by the good book to eat all the animals and have dominion over all the animals yet people cry foul when our food is mistreated?

Kona0197 shakes his head...

There are bigger problems in this world than animal mistreatment. For example - global warming.

(By the way if no one edits China's comments I'm going to cry foul as I know others can't get away with that kind of talk...)
Reply #42 Top

China's just speaking the truth....

...or rather...re-affirming my own self-diagnosis....

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Can i sign that petition for you clwoods?


I wish you could help, but you are Canadian, and this is a bill for America. You do not have any United States Senators to send the message to. The petition part is over, and was a success by a landslide. Now it must pass the US Senate. Sorry. I really do appreciate your desire to help though. Thank you very much.
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Jafo - no offense - but I don't think any animal is more noble than mankind. Sorry


No offense Kona, but considering that man is suppose to be superior to all other beings on earth, I would have to say because of all the irresponsible and horrible things man has done to ourselves, the animals and this planet,not to mention the mismangement of our resourses, our supposed superior intelligence doesn't really matter. Apparently it takes something other than intelligence to do things right. Like a heart and soul, which seems most people do not give creedence to these days,and maybe never have. It is mankind's arrogance that has placed us so high, in the minds of some, surely not his actions. Therefore mankind is the lowest being on the totem pole. In the famous words of Ripley from the movie Aliens I must say on behalf of all animals "You don't see them ....... each other over for a percentage" If what we have done to this world, ourselves and the "lesser" inhabitants is what intelligence and nobility are, then I rather be a poor, dumb animal.
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In order for the Intelligence of the mind to be successful, it must be applied with the Heart and Soul. CLW
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And on that misanthropic note, let me quote the poster hanging in my toilet:
All animals except man know that the ultimate of life is to enjoy it. (Samuel Butler)


Man ofcourse prefers to kill and mame in the name of religion or economy (or both) or just because it's so damn freaking hot.

Japanese hunt whales because animal welfare is a Western thing. Chinese and Koreans eat cats and dogs because they're considered cattle. Viewing them through christian or western glasses is silly, since they aren't christian nor western.
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Whales are one of the smartest creatures on earth. Cats should not be boiled and skinned alive nor Horses throats slit while they hang upside down alive so some one can satisfy their tastebuds. Just because something is deemed okay, does that mean our brains should fall out of our heads nor common sense and descencey fly out the window. The cows, pigs and chickens are already being tortured so we can eat. Must we keep on adding more animals to the suffering? We are a disposable world. What is not needed anymore for work or gain is tossed aside, tortured, neglected, forgotten, or inhumanely killed that we may yet again get something out of it. I am sure God did not intend for us to do that no matter what is considered clean or unclean food.


You hit the nail right on the head Cindi!!!
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Horses throats slit while they hang upside down alive so some one can satisfy their tastebuds


I've seen those pictures.......it breaks my heart
Reply #49 Top
Why is hunting whales "slaughter", but other sea creatures "fishing"?
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Why is hunting whales "slaughter", but other sea creatures "fishing"?


Maybe because whales are mammals.