For the Guns must be banned idiots

take this test

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For all you morons that think guns are the great evil of our times and have blamed guns for crime, murder, rape and other acts take the following test.

Get a weapon, any weapon will do... gun, knife, baseball bat.

Put said weapon on a table top.

Sit back watching weapon intently.

Wait for weapon to do harm all of its own accord.

when weapon does not attack you or anyones else, maybe, just maybe YOU WILL SEE WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, I've been watching for over an hour now MM, and it seems you are quite right. There is obviously nothing to worry about here. What on earth could we have been thinking? Hurrah! Let's issue guns to every new-born infant.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thats just really silly. Whats your position of the legalisation of drugs (crack,horse, meth, etc)?
Im sure you can appreciate where i would go with that and your table top routine.

What more why downsize nuclear arsenals? Their just sitting in silos. Can t do any harm just sitting in a nuclear silo can it?
You make the rest of what you say about the gun debate seem childish if this is the kind of base thinking its steeped in.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
you forgot one thing MM, for guns, they have to be loaded.....
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
make sure the baseball bat is a louisville slugger(or an Amittyville King (Aluminum H.S. baseball bat)....the best kind of bat...
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Furry CanaryPosted: Friday, May 20, 2005Well, I've been watching for over an hour now MM, and it seems you are quite right. There is obviously nothing to worry about here. What on earth could we have been thinking? Hurrah! Let's issue guns to every new-born infant.


as long as they get proper gun training and good target recognition skills.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: bigrickstallionPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005Thats just really silly. Whats your position of the legalisation of drugs (crack,horse, meth, etc)? Im sure you can appreciate where i would go with that and your table top routine.What more why downsize nuclear arsenals? Their just sitting in silos. Can t do any harm just sitting in a nuclear silo can it?You make the rest of what you say about the gun debate seem childish if this is the kind of base thinking its steeped in.


let me see where to start......... my point is for the very dense........ guns and weapons do not kill people, people do..
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Lucas BaileyPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005you forgot one thing MM, for guns, they have to be loaded.....


naw a nice old empty gun makes a fine bludgeon.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Lucas BaileyPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005make sure the baseball bat is a louisville slugger(or an Amittyville King (Aluminum H.S. baseball bat)....the best kind of bat...


naice white birch old fashoned micke matle model 34 ounces works just fine.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
We should ban baseballl bats. The bat rolled off the table and whacked me on the foot all by itself. Ouch. The gun just laid there and behaved itself.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MasonMPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005We should ban baseballl bats. The bat rolled off the table and whacked me on the foot all by itself. Ouch. The gun just laid there and behaved itself.


lol mason, you ok? have not seen or heard from you in a bit..but that could also be I been having a "head up my own ass week"
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I've been around just about every day but have been spending a lot of time working on my bike, cleaning my bike, riding my bike, and thinking about riding my bike.

Come to think about it, blogging about it too.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MasonMPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005I've been around just about every day but have been spending a lot of time working on my bike, cleaning my bike, riding my bike, and thinking about riding my bike. Come to think about it, blogging about it too.


good to hear your particapating in life stuff mason. really, for some strange reason I feel a kinship with you, altho we prolly don't have all that much in common. {hm who knows}
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
guns and weapons do not kill people, people do


You guys constantly raise the same stupid arse point. Yes we know the gun is an inanimate object. Without a person pulling a trigger the gun cant go off.

Our point being without a gun there is no trigger to pull. Its quite simple.

If you're going to argue along those lines then why dont we legalise crack and heroine? The drugs can only kill someone if they overdose. So it must be the persons fault not the drugs. Why should the fact that you cant handle your drugs stop me from selling and "doing" mine?

Why should i drive @ 50 instead of a 100 in suburban areas. My car will only kill someone if i crash it. Its not my cars fault that i cant drive. So why should my car be preventing from speeding.

Your argument is for the dense because only the dense would go along with it.
Your actually trying to give rights to a gun as if it were a living thing. If you remove or minimise the use of the object you remove or minimise the injury and risk associated with the use of that object.

It doesn't take rocket scientist to work that out.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
good to hear your particapating in life stuff mason. really, for some strange reason I feel a kinship with you, altho we prolly don't have all that much in common.

Thanks MM, I kinda feel the same way. Who knows?

Your actually trying to give rights to a gun as if it were a living thing.

Yes, in much the same way others try to give life to them by demonizing them.

Criminals don't normally use legally purchased guns, and don't care they aren't legal.

It doesn't take rocket scientist to work that out.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: bigrickstallionPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005guns and weapons do not kill people, people doYou guys constantly raise the same stupid arse point. Yes we know the gun is an inanimate object. Without a person pulling a trigger the gun cant go off.Our point being without a gun there is no trigger to pull. Its quite simple.If you're going to argue along those lines then why dont we legalise crack and heroine? The drugs can only kill someone if they overdose. So it must be the persons fault not the drugs. Why should the fact that you cant handle your drugs stop me from selling and "doing" mine?Why should i drive @ 50 instead of a 100 in suburban areas. My car will only kill someone if i crash it. Its not my cars fault that i cant drive. So why should my car be preventing from speeding. Your argument is for the dense because only the dense would go along with it.Your actually trying to give rights to a gun as if it were a living thing. If you remove or minimise the use of the object you remove or minimise the injury and risk associated with the use of that object.It doesn't take rocket scientist to work that out.


like I said watch the gun carefully for 2 weeks do not eat nor wash.. nor drink water while watching for the "evil" gun to jump off table and go find something to kill.. the reason you will not have to worry is the "evil" gun will see you are weak from hunger, dieing of thirst and stink like something already dead and will not bother you.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: MasonMPosted: Saturday, May 21, 2005good to hear your particapating in life stuff mason. really, for some strange reason I feel a kinship with you, altho we prolly don't have all that much in common. Thanks MM, I kinda feel the same way. Who knows?


funny how sometimes even in cyberspace 2 can meet ansee there si a connection.. even my wife sees that.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Criminals don't normally use legally purchased guns, and don't care they aren't legal.


Thats right they steal them from gun owners. If you get rid of legal guns you severly diminish the availability of guns for crims.

You would obviously support Iran having nuclear technology. If everybody else has them then so should Iran. Thats your line of thinking.

like I said watch the gun carefully for 2 weeks do not eat nor wash.. nor drink water while watching for the "evil" gun to jump off table and go find something to kill.. the reason you will not have to worry is the "evil" gun will see you are weak from hunger, dieing of thirst and stink like something already dead and will not bother you.


Your quite wierd MM. I cant understand the relevance of any of this gibberish. Only a gun nut would personify a gun as evil. We;ve already agreed a gun is inaminate. Its what people do with guns thats evil.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thats right they steal them from gun owners.


No, that's a very misleading statement. The vast majority of illegally obtained firearms on the streets today are not stolen from the homes of private citizens. They are smuggled into the country, stolen from warehouses, military bases, national guard armories, and other illicit sources. You're a fool if you believe outlawing guns for private citizens will in any way reduce the supply of firearms on the criminal black market.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
You would obviously support Iran having nuclear technology. If everybody else has them then so should Iran. Thats your line of thinking.


These statements are so far afield they make no sense whatsoever. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as you're obviously not mentally capable of sticking to the topic of discussion.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Your quite wierd MM. I cant understand the relevance of any of this gibberish. Only a gun nut would personify a gun as evil. We;ve already agreed a gun is inaminate. Its what people do with guns thats evil.


thank you for calling me weird, I truly appreciate that. last thing I wanna be is common.

as for guns again.. the is ahuge black market for guns in the u.s. when I was 15 living in east harlem where i grew up I bought my first gun that was in 1961 btw... a nice little .308 auto loader. in this times to by a gun is very easy much easier that it used to be. by your rule of thumb the only guns left would be in criminals hands.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
#19 by MasonM
Saturday, May 21, 2005


You would obviously support Iran having nuclear technology. If everybody else has them then so should Iran. Thats your line of thinking.


These statements are so far afield they make no sense whatsoever. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as you're obviously not mentally capable of sticking to the topic of discussion.


gotta give you an insightfull for that..
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
well...after watching an assortment of firearms, blades, arrows, etc., i progressed to explosives. for the past 11 hours and 37 minutes, i've been watching some sorta timed detonation kinda thing i found in the closet. it began keeping time when i lifted it outta the box (it now reads 11:39).

this is realllly boring so i'm only gonna give this about another half hour; if nothin happens by then, i'll have to concede your point.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Since the anti gun side can't seem to forumulate a decent argument, let's take your test and move it a step further....

Take any object that could be used as a weapon (one that is small enough to hide), conceal it under a jacket so no one can tell its there, and is secured enough to stay concealed unless you choose to take it out.

Walk around your city, go to the mall, your favorite park or bar. Spend the whole day with it, and do the things you would normally do, that wouldn't require some kind of security search.

Now, at the end of the day, ask yourself how many people were injured by your actions. Now, try to think of the last time you heard of a concealed weapon, of any kind, harming another living creature.

Wow, 0? Hmmmm, and people think that carrying concealed weapons is dangerous?
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
'like I said watch the gun carefully for 2 weeks do not eat nor wash.. nor drink water while watching for the "evil" gun to jump off table and go find something to kill.. the reason you will not have to worry is the "evil" gun will see you are weak from hunger, dieing of thirst and stink like something already dead and will not bother you.'
This is a scary yet strangely familiar kind of gibberish ... Hmm, has anybody every seen ModerateMan and Aeryck together, in the same room at the same time? Admit it, you're one and the same!
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
"If you're going to argue along those lines then why dont we legalise crack and heroine? The drugs can only kill someone if they overdose. So it must be the persons fault not the drugs. Why should the fact that you cant handle your drugs stop me from selling and "doing" mine?"


Democracy, in a word. The only use for drugs, outside their medically prescribed uses, is intoxication. Intoxication is the abuse of alcohol, like murder is the abuse of guns. Each, though, has a socially recognized non-abusive use. The drugs you mention have no other purpose than intoxication unless they are prescribed for some ailment.

So society has deemed the kind if 'use' you are talking about is abuse, whether you overdose, drive under the influence, or not. We simply don't want that act as a society. If you don't agree, go take it up with your legislator. By all means if the majority of Americans decide they don't want guns as they seem to have in Australia, then let them vote their concience. The problem I have is when a minority imposes their will on the majority, whether it be concerning gun control, drug legalization, whatever.