Why I Appreciate SPM

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When I first came to joeuser, I was looking for a blog site where I could begin to write articles to grow as a writer. I have received much more from JU than I ever expected. So, in many ways, this is more of a "Thank You, JU" thread than a Sir Peter appreciation thread, but I don't think any thank you for JU would be complete without mention of one of the individuals who helped me grow more than many others.

See, when I first got here, I was easily as offended by SPM as anyone here, but I didn't feel writing an email to be an appropriate response. Encouraged by many of Petey's adversaries, I began looking at SPM, and trying seriously to discover who he was.

what I discovered was a sharp tongued satirist. SPM's intelligence cannot be denied, nor, in fact, can the consistency of his character. He created a persona that satirized virtually everything and held nothing sacred. This stepped on a lot of people's toes.

But what SPM gave me was a better understaning of satire, which, despite past exposure to it, I had never truly been able to grasp in any cohesive fashion before SPM. I began to understand that a TRUE satirist can hold nothing sacred; if they do, it weakens the strength of the satire.

I know and understand that Peter has upset individuals on this site. Frankly, I was one of them before I came to understand him. But JU is full of sharks, and as soon as you get rid of one, ten more pop up.

And once you've tangled with the biggest shark, the rest of them are tame by comparison.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Way to go!! You faced up with and challenged SPM and ended up better for your trouble!

There are a few bloggers here who I was ready to dismiss to the trash heap at first too. Because of my nature though, I not only didn't Blacklist, or even ignore them, but my anomosity towards their words impelled me to read them. Eventually I have found at least a modicum of common ground with them.

Of course there are still a few out there whose words still seem to have no redeeming value, but hey, not everyone can live up to my standard (or my humility!). ;~D
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
I found SPM to be a caricture, and hence funny in many ways.  It took me all of about a week to realize that, and then to look forward to his caricturizations! I do miss his wit and posts.  I think he forgot when to turn off the sarcasm and that is what got him into trouble.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am the first to admit I had a very hard time getting my mind wrapped around what SPM was about for a while here. I even wrote an article or two (that I have been tempted to get rid of, but refuse to) about how I just didn't get him and his croonies.

I did, however, reach a point where I saw what you described Gideon. And while I didn't find him particularly funny (just a matter of taste), I don't find him to be the offensive creation I once mistook him for.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
yeah, I like the guy, I still pop by his site and read his articles from time to time
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
I find the character of SPM utterly disgusting. His lack of regard for minorities, disabled people, anyone different in any way is nothing to be admired.
He, all the characters he returns as along with all members of his site will continue to remain on my blacklist.
If anyone really wants to see what I think of him, go to my site and click on his name in my list of favourites.
If this is the type of person you can admire or laugh at, so be it.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
wow, manopeace. don't hold back tell us what you really think. I clicked on your link, wow that's harsh. I haven't been here long enough to get to know SPM. Was it really that bad?
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gideon... your such a points whore!
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Moanopeace, find adversaries worth fighting agaisnt such as the KKK and Neo-Nazis.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
When you look beyond the taunts, SPM should be appreciated for what it is, and that is truly masterclass satire... it's funny on so many levels... even now, Manopeaces response has me in stitches laughing...
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
So funny to make fun of minorities and advocate death sentances foe them? Truly sick!!
So funny to speak of torrid sex affairs with those that cannot deny it? Truly sick!!
Humour should be funny! Not sick!!!
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Good taste and humour are a contradiction in terms, like a chaste whore."
Malcolm Muggeridge (1903-90), British broadcaster

"A difference of tastes in jokes is a great strain on the affections."
George Eliot (1819-80), English novelist.

"Never say a humorous thing to a man who does not possess humour. He will always use it in evidence against you."
Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree (1853-1917), English actor-manager.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Last time I went to his site I laughed so hard I almost peed myself. Does that mean I think Hitler was funny? Nope, but if we as a society learn to see the idiocy, and therefore the humor, in the perversly self-centered and grossly unrealistic point-of-view of bigots and misogynists, then no one would be able to put on a KKK robe and not feel completely absurd.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I remember when Archie Bunker was considered great television. If that character were introduced today, I wonder if people would catch the satire, or hang Norman Lear and Carol O'Connor up by their ankles.

We won't even get into "Blazing Saddles". ;~D
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I remember when Archie Bunker was considered great television. If that character were introduced today, I wonder if people would catch the satire, or hang Norman Lear and Carol O'Connor up by their ankles.

We won't even get into "Blazing Saddles". ;~D


IN the hyper sensitive political correctness that we have become, both would be banned outright due to the new bigotry. The bigotry of not being able to laugh at the stupid and inane. Because it might offend some purple twerp somewhere.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Taking such people seriously, i.e. making them an "issue" and not a joke, is actually granted them a level of respect. SOme people will choose evil if they think they are important or feared. Not many people would choose to be derided and be an ignorant asshole.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am not a big fan of Archie Bunker because he is a character created by a liberal as a stereotype of conservative Republicans. It offends me as a conservative Republican to be protrayed as racist and bigoted.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am not a big fan of Archie Bunker because he is a character created by a liberal as a stereotype of conservative Republicans. It offends me as a conservative Republican to be protrayed as racist and bigoted.


Then you missed the point completely. He was not representing ALL conservative republicans anymore than "Meathead" was representing all liberal democrats. Both were characatures of the extremes.

Case in point. When the character "Lionel" was introduced into the show, he was in the Bunker living room talking to both Archie and Michael. After talking to them both, he looked at Archie and said, "Oh, you must be a BigOT". Michael then tried to explain away Archies bigotry,, and Lionel answered him with, "Oh and you must be a LiberAL" (emphasis an attempt to mimic the condescension in Lionel's voice to both).
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
"So funny to make fun of minorities and advocate death sentances foe them? Truly sick!!"

Admittedly not everyone can pull off a call for homosexuals to be gassed but I feel I managed to do this quite successfully old boy.

"So funny to speak of torrid sex affairs with those that cannot deny it? Truly sick!!"

I take it you have read my new Princess Diana article? It is quite touching that you seem to be a regular reader. My fans are important to me Moanopeace and I would like to thank you for all of your support.

Good show Gideon for writing this article.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey, Mano, I was a sometime poster over at SPM's site, you gonna blacklist me?

Hope not.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey, Mano, I was a sometime poster over at SPM's site, you gonna blacklist me?


No I'm not...I'm sure you think the same of that turd as I do...
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
No I'm not...I'm sure you think the same of that turd as I do...


Nah, I like the guy. I found him to be humorous and I have enough of a well-developed sense of humor not to get my knickers in a bunch over obvious satire.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Moanopeace I will do a deal with you old boy. I am willing to give you the opportunity to have your anti Sir Peter Maxwell views published on www.sirpetermaxwell.com

Write an article entitled 'Why I Believe Sir Peter Maxwell Is Satan' and I will publish it. You can say whatever you like about me and it will give you the opportunity to tell the readers of my website why they are wrong to even consider reading my material. You can insult me, call me the devil, a turd etc etc and it will still be published.

Can you rise to the challenge my good man? If so email your article to [email protected]
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
At first I was offended by Sir Peter Maxwell's rants, but you have to learn to take it all in good humor. Manopeace, just look at how amazing the offer is in the above reply! Take it. Slander him on his own website. It should be interesting.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
As yet, Moanopeace has not yet submitted an article and thus we must conclude from this that he is in fact a fan of my work.