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STOP PUSHING YOUR BELIEFS ON ME!!

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STOP PUSHING YOUR BELIEFS ON ME!!

I've Had It With Newdow

from JoeUser Forums
Newdow is now trying to stop the prayer for the inaugeration.

I've had it with all these self-rightous Anti-theists.

You know what, you claim that we are pushing our Christian beliefs on you. Here's a little common sense... DON'T LISTEN, AND AVOID THE SITUATION!!

I don't agree with the act of prostitution, so I avoid that type of situation, I don't try to stop it, even though it is something that probably should be discontinued.

So, dear Anit-theist, get over yourself, and stop trying to push you beliefs, or lack thereof, on me!

Just don't say "Under God" when you say the pledge.
Don't listen to the inaugeral prayer, or better yet, don't go.
Don't go to a Christian church.
Don't read the 10 commandments in the courtroom.

YOU CAN AVOID IT, so stop trying to take it away from me!

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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
Don't listen to the inaugeral prayer, or better yet, don't go.


So when, and if, the day comes that our president is Muslim and wants to chant the Koran at the Inauguration, you will simply refrain from attending rather than saying that it doesn't belong?

Every citizen of this country has the right to watch the President take the oath of office--they also have the right to say that the prayer bothers them and shouldn't be included. It is up to the Supreme Court to rule if it is a violation of present law. I personally have no problem with the prayer--but I also wouldn't have a problem with reciting the Koran, or any other religious text. However, the fact that it doesn't offend me, doesn't mean that it is right and that the practice should be allowed to continue.

As Myrrander said--you have the ability to express your beliefs in a variety of ways. Please don't pretend that the atheists or anti-theists are persecuting you because they are disagreeing with you and working within the law to change it.

Just for the record, because I know the response will assume something about me--I'm very much Christian-- which leads to another point--don't assume that all Christians profess the same political beliefs!
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top

So when, and if, the day comes that our president is Muslim and wants to chant the Koran at the Inauguration, you will simply refrain from attending rather than saying that it doesn't belong?


Yes.  But I wont refrain.  After all, what if Lieberman had won?  It is their right to choose their god they profess in.  Freedom of Religion is NOT freedom from religion

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Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
Freedom of religion includes having no religion at all. Read up on some Jefferson and Madison.

"An alliance or coalition between Government and religion cannot be too carefully guarded against......Every new and successful example therefore of a PERFECT SEPARATION between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance........religion and government will exist in greater purity, rather than with the aid of government."

--James Madison
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
It amazes me how people in the majority can still have such a skewed martyr complex


next to the constitutional issues, this what troubles me most about theist chickenlittlism ('the cross is falling...the cross is falling!').   it's ignorant (in the sense of ignoring the obvious) and/or dishonest to claim christians or any adherents of any other religion arent free to express, practice and promote their beliefs openly within the broad limits set forth by the constitution and local statutes regulating all forms of expression, ritual and promotion.  insisting that might makes right is nothing short of thuggery.
Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top
not getting myself involved in this discussion, just leaving this one to let you know that i wrote a comment on your previous post about brazilian diplomacy.. anyone interested, email me..