What do you suggest I do?

from JoeUser Forums
Ok, I really only want to say one thing. What do you want me to do? Do you really suggest that I change from me to something I'm not? Just pondering. I really am sorry that I can't be the kinda of person you want to have as a friend. I really can't help that I'm not as girly as you. I just wish you'd except me for me and nothing else. Believe me, I do accept you for you and nothing else. I didn't call you bitch, I don't think you're one either. But this time, it might take me longer to forgive you, compared to the other times I forgave you. I know you didn't mean to yell, but you still lashed out and hurt my feelings. All I can say is that I wanted to help so much. But I just got in the way. So maybe I'll just not help anyone anymore. Does that sound good to you? I don't know. Just tell why everything about me is so wrong. I can't help that God wanted me to be this way. I'm sorry.

~carebear~
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
I doubt your talking to me, but I say you be who you are.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
If this person can't accept you for who you are, that is down to their short-comings not yours
Siege of Centauri
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yeah, what Sally said.

I hope you don't mind us all butting into your convo here. Here's the thing, carebear, you don't have to appologize to anyone for who and what you are. Anything anyone else says or does is solely a reflection of them, not of you. They might be blaming you for it, they might think they are judging you, but it's all about them. Every time.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Unless your a severe nutcase (BTW i don't see it in ya) I dunno of you need to radically change who you are Carebear.

Therefore i whole heartedly agree with Sally and Gene.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thanks guys! Yeah, it's just that two people on here say that I need to change the way I am. I don't really want to start anything bad. I like both of them a lot(sarah and brandon, but just as friends). I don't know why they want me to change. I really don't think I ever could anyways. The majority of the people like me for me so, yea. Thanks for supporting me guys! And I don't care if you butt in! lol

~carebear~
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Okay, the only think that bugged me was the alex/sam conflict and your actions about it, that was why i was so upset. I don't want you to change who you are, your actions are just a little messed up. I know you wont forgive easily, which if you ask brandon, i don't really understand, i have this insane forgiveness thing, all someone has to do is say sorry and mean it and i forgive them, a few people don't believe that i really forgive them or whatever but i do. I cant' help it. but ashley maybe you should talk to alex about me spazing out on, because i've taken a lot of anger out on him in the short while ive known him all i can ask is that you forgive, but try to change what youre doing, you hurting sam and thus hurting me.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ok, well I think none of this would have happened if Brandon would have kept things to himself like I told him and shuan to. And Brandon can't say that I didn't say that, because I even asked shaun if he remembers me saying to keep what I said to themselves. So he's the one that went and said something causing all of this. I can't help who I like ok. I don't think any of us can. If the feelings are there then you're going to have them. You have no idea how it was for me when sam and alex started going out. Can't you imagine how I felt. I still liked him then. So I know what she's feeling. But you know, you never seen me get mad at her for liking him and going out with him now did you? So why is she f/o on me, when I didn't f/o on her. Like I said you just have to be me to understand. And you know how bad I hurt when they started going out? No, none of you do. No one was there for me when I was hurting, and now you all make me feel like a horrible person. Just think about it.

~carebear~
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yeah i thought about it, and then i thought well wait where does this sound familar? Ashley, no. okay, i'm not going to feel bad for you, okay? Yes it is painful that you had to see sam and alex go out, i've been there done that about twenty times. BUT how the hell do you think i felt when i started to like brandon? You made me feel like crap. I know you can't help who you like, but you don't have to parade it around and make other people mad. You made me out to be some horrilbe nameless tramp on this site like i was seducing him right in front of your very eyes. You caused everyone even Sam to hate me, made shaun and alex comfort you. SO i don't even want to hear about ME making YOU feel horrible. I'm not mad at Sam because I know she wouldn't pull a stunt like you did. This is why i was ticked off Ashley.


Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Oh and don't blame brandon.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
i didn't even hear it from him
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
^Double post!^

I'm still not getting this... I didn't tell people you liked him Ashley. Get over it. You're secret was picked up on with out my help.

Stop with the pitty party! It's getting really old and nobody wants to hear about it anymore! We're past the "let's all be depressed" stage, and I think it's time you move on too! Just stop! If I didn't have the strong conviction I have I'd probably be to the point of cursing right about now. This is retarded and you're acting like a little baby. If you think that you're the only who has ever been hurt because you liked someone you're beyond naive, you're just simply blind to reality.

Just because you like Alex, or whoever you've found yourself infatuated with for the time, you can't just take it open yourself to make everyone else suffer for you not getting your way. It's old, and I'm seriously thinking about just simply giving up on you all together.

Yeah, I want you to change. I want you to grow up and mature a few years.

Capt. over and out!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Amen to I am so tired of it too. Don't you think the rest of us haven't had that pain before. The only reason why you haven't heard was because we don't want people feeling sorry for us.

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Yeah, I want you to change. I want you to grow up and mature a few years.



We are grown up and mature to know what we should do and what we shouldn't do. I think you should try it! People might actually for once not hate you. I know we had put everything behind us since the last fight and are now friends, but what you have pulled makes me really upset, because we all know what you are doing b.c. you have done it one to many times before!!
I am sorry but that is just the way I feel. Brandon and Sarah are right and you are just goin to have to stop with the little baby act, because it is very annoying!

Stacey
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, as much as I don't want to get into this...Sarah and Brandon bring up some good points....(Stacey just kind of dumbed them down and repeated what they said) You can't help what your mind and hormones do to you, especially at this stage. The most we can do is try to cope with our feelings(However pre-mature and strange they may be). All of the people around me behave as if we're in a soap opera. I think I've fallen into an infinate love polygon. So many webs have been woven and its hard to move without snapping a strand and starting a feud. The only way through this is to try and grow up a bit...and that goes for everyone. Remember this is just highschool....it's okay to try out this "love game" but realize that it may not be permanent. From just observing I have learned so much about people and relationships....I could basically write a book about the do's and don't's of dating, relationships, and the genders. It's so very predictable at times...and then things take a fucked up twist. The main point I want to get across to you(before going off on that last tangent) is this: You don't need to change who you are, how you live, or what you feel...BUT how you express these feelings and your actions with people. There's not much help I can give you in this situation...but I offer one nugget to consider...this isn't the only period in your life for this stuff....after highschool there will be many years of dating and relationships to consider. Just because of this stuff going on now doesn't mean all of you need to break into groups and turn on eachother....there's no need for pointless suffering, anger, and pity....move on with your lives...there's no need for all of this aggravation.

(Shit, I need to open a fucking therapy circle....my friends have more problems than hookers have diseases...lol)

~Zoo
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
And theres still things that you will never know about us shaun. Secrets, have i, that will remain buried in my soul that most will never know. This is how most people are. I don't know, webs woven and i'm tired of putting up with girls. Seriously, i don't not like living in a soap opera either
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
So much anger, so much blame,
You all should hang your heads in shame,
Talk about the problem before you argue,
God doesn't want this...why do you?

~Zoo
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ok, wait. I don't want a pitty party! Jeez! I just wanted to get some things straight! Jeez! Bite my head off.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Oh, and Sarah.....don't blame me for Sam hating you either! That was definately not my fault! She hated you because you always called Alex and you were always around him. That's why she hated you, not b/c of me. And you know, i know that in the past I said horrible things about you, I thought we were done thinking about that stuff and we had moved on?!?! I could be saying that stuff about you again, but you know I'm not, I'm not going to stoop down to that level again! And I'm sorry I accused you Brandon. It just seemed to fit. So yea, I'm very sorry for that. But you probably won't forgive me, but no bother. I quit. No more anything for me.

~carebear~
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Whoa, I had no idea about the Sam thing. Sorry I blamed you for that. If it makes any sense if she reads this, I love Alex in the sense that he was the only friend i had for a while. He listened to me, and i found i could talk to him. Its very hard for me to find people that i can feel comfortable around. I guess I can understand that in a way its hard to go out with someone who's close to girls. But I'm kinda of sad now. Don't worry I quit too. Still not mad at her though. I've forgiven you, It's just about impossible to forget. And i was just trying to make a point. Okay?





Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top


Reply #12 By: CaptainCornbread - 1/15/2005 11:01:32 PM
^Double post!^

I'm still not getting this... I didn't tell people you liked him Ashley. Get over it. You're secret was picked up on with out my help.

Stop with the pitty party! It's getting really old and nobody wants to hear about it anymore! We're past the "let's all be depressed" stage, and I think it's time you move on too! Just stop! If I didn't have the strong conviction I have I'd probably be to the point of cursing right about now. This is retarded and you're acting like a little baby. If you think that you're the only who has ever been hurt because you liked someone you're beyond naive, you're just simply blind to reality.

Just because you like Alex, or whoever you've found yourself infatuated with for the time, you can't just take it open yourself to make everyone else suffer for you not getting your way. It's old, and I'm seriously thinking about just simply giving up on you all together.

Yeah, I want you to change. I want you to grow up and mature a few years.

Capt. over and out!


Capt.


In your quest to wish other people to mature, it might be productive if you tried it yourself. The fact is, you are all adolescents, on individual voyages of discovery, and there is nothing to be gained by criticizing and belittling others for being at different points than you are.

Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's ok Sarah. I figured you didn't know that. So I forgive you for that. I'm tired of all this nonsense. I quit. I hope everyone quits. This is so childish. I think we were all having problems and they all got bonded into one big mess. We all thought we had to blame someone for things because we didn't know who to blame or get mad at. We all did it, and we were all childish. Not just one or two people, all of us were. So I'm ready for the fighting to cease. So I guess what I'm saying Sarah and Brandon, is that I'm ready to forgive you for yelling and hurting me. I forgive you. I hope you'll want to forgive me sometime too. It doesn't have to be now. Whenever you feel like it okay. If you never want to then I guess you don't have to. But I am sorry.

~carebear~
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm tired of all this nonsense. I quit. I hope everyone quits. This is so childish. I think we were all having problems and they all got bonded into one big mess. We all thought we had to blame someone for things because we didn't know who to blame or get mad at. We all did it, and we were all childish. Not just one or two people, all of us were. So I'm ready for the fighting to cease. So I guess what I'm saying Sarah and Brandon, is that I'm ready to forgive you for yelling and hurting me. I forgive you. I hope you'll want to forgive me sometime too. It doesn't have to be now. Whenever you feel like it okay. If you never want to then I guess you don't have to. But I am sorry.


Oh, Praise Jesus, hallelujah! Finally, one of you gets my point....that's exactly what I've been trying to say this whole freaking time....Forgive and move on....

Maybe we'll finally get some peace around here, if only for awhile.

~Zoo
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm tired of all this nonsense. I quit. I hope everyone quits. This is so childish. I think we were all having problems and they all got bonded into one big mess. We all thought we had to blame someone for things because we didn't know who to blame or get mad at. We all did it, and we were all childish. Not just one or two people, all of us were. So I'm ready for the fighting to cease. So I guess what I'm saying Sarah and Brandon, is that I'm ready to forgive you for yelling and hurting me. I forgive you. I hope you'll want to forgive me sometime too. It doesn't have to be now. Whenever you feel like it okay. If you never want to then I guess you don't have to. But I am sorry.


Oh, Praise Jesus, hallelujah! Finally, one of you gets my point....that's exactly what I've been trying to say this whole freaking time....Forgive and move on....

Maybe we'll finally get some peace around here, if only for awhile.

~Zoo
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I quit too, we are/were(?) being very childish. I do forgive you, like i said i can't help but to forgive. I hope that we this can mature us once again as we move in our adolence. How the heck do you spell that? anyway, peace is good, and i hope we find some for a while. I don't know why we do this all the time, but oh well, maybe we can quit. And yes shaun i know you were trying to say this all along.