Yes, Dave...you're very possibly right.....but it's just frustrating having the 'rip' issue in the public forum when there is any degree of 'chance' that the issue is not exactly as reported.

Heaven help us all if a third WB skin turns up that predates both of these and has yet another take on these same buttons.

Email good - Message Board bad....

point taken jafo...***Eli goes in to silent mode**

the rip is so minimal that i wouldn't worry about. Your skin is light years nicer. Actually it's damn good.

I concur that the pearl blue is a rip. the buttons on the taskbar are the same, but recolored slightly for one. The good parts of the skin came from the original and what looks to be original on pearlblue doesn't look as good.

Quite frankly I don't like either so I should be somewhat unbiased.

You want to find out? Take screenshot 1, past it next to screenshot 2. (In photoshop)

Zoom in so you can se both taskbars and preferably the upper 3-5 pixels, so it has to be really big.
Now take the ' ripped ' skin and edit the hue and saturation. Make sure you get the color of the upper pixels on both taskbars exactly the same. If you did that take the color picker and check all the pixels under it. If they are exactly the same, yeah its a rip. If they aren't, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Kinda didn't see the 2nd page.

Btw, how can you modify from scratch?
Anyway, never mind it, see it as a compliment that someone WANTED to rip things of you

> Firstly i did not make this skin. But i feel like my name is being smashed to the ground here so i must speak up.

So i'm pretty upset here , some family site ,you guys are so nice ..After a year here i feel so welcome. NOT.....I feel like an outcast and i thimk that this surely isn't helping.(Talk about counter productive)

The WB skin PearlBlue clearly has borrowed parts re-colored - sorry i didn't zoom and look for the little finger print. HG want to start talking about skins and make it public like this don't just mention it ....mention names be specific!!!

Remove the skin if its a rip....I will say sorry on my behalf of my-self not noticing the situation ....

Stumpy #9 i sure hope wasnt directed at me (Again in general you people are not kind)

Finally i would like to say i'm very upset about this situation feeling pretty bad about it . Rips do not belong on this site , if it is a rip ....Remove it but i did send him a 30 meg folder of those horrible graphics you all seem to love so much. So as far as i can tell 90% is legit.

Again you all have made a great friend today ...Thanks

First of all the people here are generally nice, and you are taking this the wrong way. I for one don't like either WINDOWBLIND because they are both clunky to me. While you might have made the graphics. in my opinion the guy who made pearlblue did not use them affectively. you allowed your name to be attached to it, so you to will feel the reprecussions from this. you didn't have to let the guy upload it. Your graphics are a-ok. The way they were used in the windowblind weren't in my opinion.
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fivesballs....you've lost me.

This alleged 'rip' is about 2 WB skins, neither of which is yours.

Your name only enters it as glowdark refers to his skin as 'inspired by fiveballs' work'.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick here...

/me sits quietly and avoids the crossfire

my opinion that this is a rip still stands. look at the quick launch part of the task bar, the dots are exactly similar, that may not be saying much, but its definitely ripped.

Evil Emperor Surg sits quietly and avoids the crossfire my opinion that this is a rip still stands. look at the quick launch part of the task bar, the dots are exactly similar, that may not be saying much, but its definitely ripped.

Make up your mind....sit quietly or clarify the absurdity 'exactly similar'.

.... and 'definitely ripped' is more than 'not saying much', it's an accusation.

look at TaskbarQuickLaunch.BMP or ToolbarButton.bmp in both skins and you can not deny it´s a rip.

thank you Moshi

thank you Moshi

whoops, double post. sorry.

ComboboxDropDownButton.bmp
ListViewHeader.bmp
MenuBar.bmp
MenuBarItem.bmp
panelbuttons.bmp
ProgressBar.bmp
PushButton.bmp
RadioButtonNew.bmp
TaskbarQuickLaunch.bmp
ToolbarButton.bmp

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all recolors. and that´s not even half of the ripped BMPs. i did not even look at the TGAs.
if this is not a rip, selling color variations of Pixtudio skins might be a good idea

Yes both 'appear' to originate from the same source.

Seems every man and his dog is a past master at determining absolutes...now, as I said, as long as there is not a third skin out there which BOTH were derived from you 'may' have a case.

The issue with public finger poking is that myopia 'may' result in hitting the wrong target.

What say this is left in the Admin's hands, OK?...

/me kindly steps away and shuts his mouth

Very good point Moshi.

/me still doesnt change his view though

"third skin out there which BOTH were derived from"

so what? of course both might be rips (i believe Michael though). then PearlBlue is still a rip.

true moshi, wisely said.

OK, knickers can be unknotted now.....it's been dealt with.

Must be fun doing your knitting in the front row at a public beheading....the fine mist spray of warm blood....

Protocol for Rip Notification....

Step one....find it.

Step Two....email an Admin.

Step three....wait patiently.

Step Four....email appreciation....

Step Four....email appreciation....

Seems like I've "split the fairway" with this one...

But believe it or not... My original question has not been answered yet: Where goes the fine line for a skin to be a rip??

Lets suppose im really telling the truth; is Pearlblue considered a rip then? Remember: I've not accused anyone of having ripped anything, i've just stated that I've made many of the elements in Pearlblue. Im totally new to this, so I would like to know when a skin is a rip and when its not. So that in future i can go through the four steps that JAFO has described if necessary.

JAFO: In short: Define a rip. Thanks !