im makin a wishlist at the moment of what i will most likely get, can i email it to you?

Yeah, sure.

ok, will send it in tomorrow.

I'm curous as to what your budget is? Unlimited? $1000?

When I built mine, my budget was $500-$600. I spent a total of $599 when I was finished. But that didn't include the $200 19" flat monitor, the $80 speakers or the $100 wireless mouse/keyboard. Totaled: $1000. Hmmm, didn't wanted to spend that much. $600 was my budget!!!

my budget is not to exceed $700, that is, without the monitor (crt) or the HDs. i can get a 17" crt for $40 and a 250GB HD for $100 (after rebates) so its kinda like that.

did you get the email yet? i sent it first to you, and then to myself but i still dont have it yet...

ok, sorry ahead for the long post but... email didnt work. ok, here is what i want to get. help me out with what i need/dont need. i am tight on money as another crisis just arose so keep that in mind.

Qty Product Item # Unit Price Qty x Price

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
CHIEFTEC Server Chasis (Aluminum Workstation Tower with Plastic Front Cover) SILVER COLOR w/ Side acrylic window and a Case Fan on Side Window **Now with 2 x Front USB2.0 and 1 x Firewire IEEE1394 ports** Model AX-01SLD RetailWeights Only 18LBs! .
Specification:
Case Type: Workstation Tower
Color: Silver
Material: Aluminum
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4,3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x4
Expansion Slot: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2,IEEE1394 x1
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System:2 rear Mounted Fans and 1 side panel Fan
Motherboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 473x205x522mm
Special Features: more info>
N82E16811125222 $65.00
$65.00

Cooling Device - RAM Heatspreaders/Heatsinks
Thermaltake DDR Copper Heat Spreader,Retail.
Features:
Compatibility: DDR & SDR
Material: Copper more info>
N82E16835116007 $11.99
$11.99

CPU Thermal Paste / Grease
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5. 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube.
Specifications:
Thermal Conductance: >350,000W/m2 °C (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Resistance: 180°C Long-Term: –50°C to 130°C
Performance: 3 to 12 degrees centigrade lower CPU full load core temperatures than standard thermal compounds or thermal pads when measured with a calibrated thermal diode imbedded in the CPU core
Coverage Area: The 3.5 gram tube contains enough compound to cover at least 15 to 25 small CPU cores, or 6 to 10 large CPU cores, or 2 to 5 heat plates. more info>
N82E16835100007 $6.99
$6.9 ea.@2+
$6.75 ea.@5+
$6.5 ea.@10+
$6.99

Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
Aspire 80mm UV Blue Fan with 4-pin and 4 Blue LEDs, Model "CF4SL-UBL" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Compatibility: Not specified
Dimensions: 80 x 80 x 25mm
Bearing Type: Not specified
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air Flow(CFM): 32.4
Rated Voltage: 12V
Connector: 4 Pin
Noise(dBA): 25
Special Features: 100% Clear Crystal fan.Perfect for window cases, Nice Retail Package. 4 Screws included for mounting more info>
N82E16811998101 $5.99
N82E16835103141 $44.99
$44.99

Speeze System Cooler, Model:4F01B4 Exhauster, 90x80x10mm.
Specification
Compatibility: Any free ISA or PCI slot in the PC case
Bearing Type: Sleeve-or Ball
Nominal Speed(RPM): 4500
Max Air Flow(CFM): 16
Max Pressure: Not Specified
Fan Material: Not Specified
Heat Sink Material: Not Specified
Rated Voltage: 12 V
Operating Voltage: Not Specified
Noise(dBA): 25.6 more info>
N82E16835150006 $3.99
$3.99

Memory (System Memory)
OCZ Premier Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Specification
Manufacturer: OCZ
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5-3-3-7 2T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Ultra Low Noised shielded PCB
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820146917 $84.00
$84.00

Motherboards - AMD
GIGABYTE nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "GA-7N400 PRO2" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD AthlonXP/Athlon/Duron Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 4x UltraDMA 66/100/133 up to 8 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI(PCI 2.2)
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),3xIEEE1394,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:8110S Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000
Onboard SATA/RAID: Silicon Image sil3112A, 2x SATA/GiagRAID controller more info>
N82E16813128199 $106.99
$106.99

Power Supplies
Allied TRUE 450W Power Supply AL-B450EATX w/ Two Fans ***AMD APPROVED good to 2200+ *** UL, CSA, FCC Approved
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 450W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: Not specified
Efficiency: 65% minimum, 75% typical, at full load
Over Voltage Protection: +3.3V, +5V, +12V
Overload Protection: Not specified
Input Voltage: Select 90-132VAC or 180-264VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: Not specified
Output: +3.3V@28A;+5V@50A;[email protected];+12V@18A;-12V@1A;[email protected]
MTBF: 50,000 hours
Approvals: UL, CSA, TUV, NEMKO, DEMKO, SEMKO, FI,CE w/ Serial ATA Connector more info>
N82E16817154010 $42.00
$37.5 ea.@5+
$36 ea.@10+
$35 ea.@40+
$42.00

Processors
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.08GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM (Processor only) more info>
N82E16819103376 $113.00
$113.00

Video Cards
GIGABYTE nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "GV-N57128D" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce FX5700/425MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/850MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video)+DVI connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®1.5
Cable/Accessories: Not Specified
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
Retail Box (See pics for details) more info>
N82E16814125126 $145.99
$145.99



Subtotal » $ 642.91
+s/h



thanks and sorry again for the long post.

NOOOO
Go with an ATI video card. I don't believe Nvidia supports hardware accelertation for your desktop (skins). ATI does and it makes a huge differance when running lots of eyecandy. The only problem I have with ATI is their terrible support for Linux. My desktop at home runs WB, CoursorXP and DX, all with animations without a noticable slowdown using an old ATI 9000 in dual screen mode. My work computer can't run animations without choking on a single screen with just WB running.

ok... checking prices for ati...

ok, which one is better???
9600XT 128mb/bit
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-326&catalog=48&depa=1

9600pro 128mb/bit
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-301&catalog=48&depa=1

9800se 128mb/bit
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-303&catalog=48&depa=1



which one? remember, my budget is tight.

I got you email and replied

If it was my money I would go with the 9600pro. The 9800se is so cheap because they really slow the clock down on the chip. You get some extra features on the 9800se that will might help with games that haven't even been released yet but the clock on the 9600pro is faster. If you have the extra $10 go for the 9600xt it is the fastest clock of the bunch.

9600XT/ *500MHz*
Memory 128MB DDR *650MHz*

9600PRO/ *400MHz*
Memory 128MB DDR/ *600MHz*

9800SE/ *325MHz*
Memory 128MB DDR/ *580MHz*

what about the 9800 PRO?

ok, heres what i have so far chosen:::

Qty Product Item # Unit Price Qty x Price

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
CHIEFTEC Server Chasis (Aluminum Workstation Tower with Plastic Front Cover) SILVER COLOR w/ Side acrylic window and a Case Fan on Side Window **Now with 2 x Front USB2.0 and 1 x Firewire IEEE1394 ports** Model AX-01SLD RetailWeights Only 18LBs! .
Specification:
Case Type: Workstation Tower
Color: Silver
Material: Aluminum
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4,3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x4
Expansion Slot: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2,IEEE1394 x1
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System:2 rear Mounted Fans and 1 side panel Fan
Motherboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 473x205x522mm
Special Features: more info>
N82E16811125222 $65.00
$65.00

Controllers, Panels, etc.
ENERMAX Aluminum (SILVER) Multifunction Transfer Panel, Model "UC-A5FATR2"
Specifications:
Aluminum alloy,suitable for 5.25" bay.
2 Temperature Monitors.
6 Fan Speed Adjustable.
Fan & temp Alarm function.
Fits In Standard 5.25 Drive Bay. more info>
N82E16813999214 $25.99
$25.9 ea.@2+
$25.8 ea.@3+
$25.7 ea.@5+
$25.99

CPU Thermal Paste / Grease
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5. 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube.
Specifications:
Thermal Conductance: >350,000W/m2 °C (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Resistance: 180°C Long-Term: –50°C to 130°C
Performance: 3 to 12 degrees centigrade lower CPU full load core temperatures than standard thermal compounds or thermal pads when measured with a calibrated thermal diode imbedded in the CPU core
Coverage Area: The 3.5 gram tube contains enough compound to cover at least 15 to 25 small CPU cores, or 6 to 10 large CPU cores, or 2 to 5 heat plates. more info>
N82E16835100007 $6.99
$6.9 ea.@2+
$6.75 ea.@5+
$6.5 ea.@10+
$6.99

Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
Aspire 80mm UV Blue Fan with 4-pin and 4 Blue LEDs, Model "CF4SL-UBL" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Compatibility: Not specified
Dimensions: 80 x 80 x 25mm
Bearing Type: Not specified
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air Flow(CFM): 32.4
Rated Voltage: 12V
Connector: 4 Pin
Noise(dBA): 25
Special Features: 100% Clear Crystal fan.Perfect for window cases, Nice Retail Package. 4 Screws included for mounting more info>
N82E16811998101 $5.99
$17.97

CoolerMaster ''Aero 7+''Copper CPU Cooler Application for AMD AthlonXP 3200+ and higher.
Specification:
Compatibility: Socket A/370/462
Dimensions: 80x80x121 mm
Bearing Type: 2 Ball
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1900~3500
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 10.9~20
Max Pressure: 2.9~10.7 mmH2O
Heat Sink Material: Copper Skived Fin
Rated Voltage: 7~13.8V
Noise(dBA): 23.6~37.5
Connector: 4 Pin(Power input) and 3 Pin(Speed Detection)
Special Features: AMD Recommended.More powerful blowers produce larger air pressure than traditional axial fans. more info>
N82E16835103135 $28.99
$28.99

Memory (System Memory)
Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Specification
Manufacturer: Geil
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5 6-3-3
Support Voltage: 2.55V-2.85V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: With Extreme Performance Heat Spreader
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820144305 $80.00
$80.00

Motherboards - AMD
GIGABYTE nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "GA-7N400 PRO2" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD AthlonXP/Athlon/Duron Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 4x UltraDMA 66/100/133 up to 8 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI(PCI 2.2)
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),3xIEEE1394,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:8110S Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000
Onboard SATA/RAID: Silicon Image sil3112A, 2x SATA/GiagRAID controller more info>
N82E16813128199 $104.99
$104.99

Power Supplies
Aspire Turbo Case Series 500W 12V Silver Aluminum Power Supply, Model "ATX-AS500W 12V" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 500W
Material: Aluminum
Dimensions(DxWxH): 150x168.5x86mm
Shipping Weight: @pc 4.5 lbs / 8pcs Per Box
Features: ATX 500 P4 Aluminum Power Supply, w/See-Through Clear Acrylic Cover (Fire Resistant Material), w/2 x 8cm UV Blue Fan w/Blue Led Lights, Multi-Color Coated Components & PC Board, Green UV Sensitive Wiresleeve & Connectors, w/Fan Speed Adjuster, w/ I/O Switch Cable-Tube-Tied Wires for Neatness, w/Gift Box more info>
N82E16817148005 $59.00
$59.00

Processors
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.08GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM (Processor only) more info>
N82E16819103376 $113.00
$113.00

Video Cards
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/650MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, PowerDVD, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz more info>
N82E16814102326 $155.00
$155.00

Extend my Standard Warranty on the above qualified items: $39.42


Subtotal » $ 656.93
Shipping and Handling Charge »
calculates shipping $ 28.44

Grand Total » $ 685.37



*ouch* pricey. oh well, i want a good comp, i hafta suffer... ) as for the 9800 pro... if you can get me one that costs less than $200, i still wont get it because i dont need a top of the line card. p .

i decided not to go with the nvidia vid card after all. (mostly because my dad says that thats a gaming card only) so ATI it is...

...also, which os is better? XP pro or one of the linux? or dual? i will have plenty of room so i can do any thing i want... so tell me whats up and which os.

oh, and also, how is linux better than XP? pros and cons?

thanks for your help. especially DJ in the VID card matter.

ouch* pricey. oh well, i want a good comp, i hafta suffer... ) as for the 9800 pro... if you can get me one that costs less than $200, i still wont get it because i dont need a top of the line card. p .

The 9800 PRO IS ATI's top of the line Card. Retails for 500 bucks I think. Or it could be the 9800 XT.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=0&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4632,3668 9800pro

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=48&DEPA=0&submit=property&mfrcode=0&propertycode=&propertycodevalue=4989,3671 9800XT


yeah... i will stick with the 9600XT

also, the 9800 xt is 420 mhz for $420 while the 9800pro is 380 mhx for $212.00
*both are OEM/bulk and are the cheapest on the list*

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3926208

no, it retails for 500 bucks and according to ATI.com is the top end of vid cards

oooh. the hercules.. i see... i thought that the fire series was the top?

Well I emailed you about that fan controller and its 3pin connectors. Keep in mind new Bartons, Thoroughbreds and Durons are factory multiplier locked-you can only change the FSB.

[Message Edited]

as for the 9800 pro... if you can get me one that costs less than $200, i still wont get it because i dont need a top of the line card. p .

The difference between a 9600XT and a 9800Pro is huge. You could also flash a 9800np to a 9800Pro. But I wouldn't suggest that.
[Message Edited]

yeah, im having second thoughts about overclocking.... i wont do it yet until i learn how to all the way... just to be safe.

Just changed from a Ti4200 to a 5900. It only scores about 25% more on 3DMark2001, which is disappointing, but it's a lot faster on UT2003, which is what I bought it for.

Incidentally, on UT2003 it benchmarks only 5% slower than a 9800pro. So at £172 v £320 it's the right choice for me.

Haven't figured out how to overclock it yet. The overclock tab on nvidia drivers has been missing for some time

um.. the program is called.... *trying to remember*....

wow, look at what i found while looking for the proggy:

TOP DOWNLOADS
Week ending February 22

1. Ultra Virtual Desktop
26,947 downloads
2. WindowBlinds
23,394 downloads

second place!!!

ok... i have found the proggy but i have reached my 50 meg limit so i cant tell you what its called... go here::: http://www2.wincustomize.com/download.asp?LibID=13&file=Mymatrixiguana.JPG&SkinID=4149 its the window on the lower left. that program can do lotsa stuff and its been 100% stable for me.