uuhhhh Jafo?

Ut oh.

/me thinks Jafo is sleepin'...he's an Aussie ya know

MrGupps,

There are three levels of admin.. "Master", "Wizop", and "Administrator"...

All three levels of admins must be voted in/promoted in by the "administrators" of the board.. highest ranking members. Jafo, and all the other wizops and masters, are voted in by majority rules (in the administrator ballot). Does that answer your question?

Master is not an administrator level. The term you are looking for is actually Moderator. Wizops and Admins are moderators. Combined, there are 12 of us in total. Master is the highest user level and a majority vote amongst moderators (and masters?) is required to promote someone to Master. Masters do not posess any special abilities beyond automatic upload approval, which Journeymen have as well.

It's all right here: https://www.wincustomize.com/index.asp?Cmd=about

yes elfkura that did clarify things slightly, but do u get nominated for the position? Or do the admins just choose a randome person to vote for?

thanks Mike

I understand now, high contributers get high authority. Makes sense

MikeB314,

From my understanding from the admins, Master is a level in the administrator below the wizops. There just aren't many people there (as in they don't have the powers the wizops do), but they have to be voted in as well.

well there is that, the contribution and such, but as far as being deeper into the workings, it is many different areas of consideration I am sure. One that would not be of least concern would be social skills and issue remediation, along with tech know how, and everything that you've picked up along the way...



keep in mind though, everyone has their moments

mention Dolphins, Volunteers and Bryce all in the same sentence to Jafo and you'll understand what I'm saying

oh and Britney Spears...

A new admin is proposed when it's deemed needed to add another, and they are voted on by the existing admins...so far it/they have been unanimous decisions...

Quick question? Does an administratior have to have a subscription to Wincustomize?

I don't think so

I cannot believe this. I wrote this very long post, then I closed the wrong tab by mistake. Woosh! All gone!
*sigh* I'll come back later and try to repost it. I'm too mad now.

There are only two types of admins: the actual Administrators and the Wizops.
The Administrators take care of the actual "work"; they are Stardock employees or are programmers doing the actual coding on this site. The administrators are the only ones that are actually paid. They are: Brad, Karmagirl, T-Man and Alexandrie. Nobody can be promoted to administrator, unless you move to where Stardock's offices are and fill out a job application.
The Wizops take care of the moderation. They moderate all submitions, they make sure no discussion gets out of bound on the message board. They also promote or demote users. And occasionnally exile users. Wizops are not paid, it's volunteer work. The Wizops are BoXXi, DavidK, Jafo, MikeB, Koasati, Mormegil, Treetog and me.
Nobody gets "promoted" to Wizop either. A Wizop is not the next step after Master the way Journeyman is the next step after Apprentice. Noboby can apply to become a Wizop, nobody can nominate somebody else. Actually, asking to be a Wizop is pretty much the best to make sure you never become one. People who seek power and important titles are exactly the type of people we want to avoid as Wizops. So how does one become a Wizop? No complicated way, really. One day, when for some reason the work loads get very heavy, somebody may post on the admin message board (yes we do have our own little secret place):
- Hey guys. We are really swomped these days. How about we get a new Wizop in to help us out?
- Great idea, we could really use an extra hand. How about Koasati?
- Yes, Koasati is great. But I really think Mormegil would be a great asset as a Wizop.
- I agree. Lets get both.
- Great! I second that!
- Me too.
- Me too.
- Me too.

And that's how we got two new Wizops recently. See? Nothing fancy. Just two names stood out and everybody agreed.

Masters are not admins. Masters are users, not moderators.
But it's true, there has been talk recently about trying to give Masters something additional, since there is no difference between a Master and a Journeyman, other than the name. But no decision has been taken yet. Lets say it's on the back burner. We don't take those kinds of decisions lightly.

As it is now, and as I think it will stay for a little while more, there are only 2 kinds of admins, and there are in total presently 12 admins (4 + 8), as I've explained it above, and that's it. Don't expect any new Wizop nomination any time soon either. We just got two new ones, and we'll be fine for probably a good while.

Hope this makes it clear for everybody.

Thanks for that, paxx....I always wondered what I was supposed to be doing....

You mean you're supposed to be doing something? And I thought you were just part of the furniture.

Well...my cat treats me that way, so why not you guys?...

"Actually, asking to be a Wizop is pretty much the best to make sure you never become one."

Ooooh - in that case...

Can I be a wizop???

There - that's one less stress I have to ever worry about in the future!

/me exits, stage right. VERY quickly.

'My mother made me a lesbian...'
'Oooh! If I gave her the wool would she make me one too?'...

Can I be a wizop?

/me is deeply depressed...

Jafo...do what ya gotta do...cuz somebody has gotta do it...and if you are the 'gotta do' guy...more power to ya.

/me slinks back into her cocoon that at one time she felt safe to come out of here...but never again

Oh well, suck it up soldier girl.

/me is just too tired to care much any more...'cept for the 'portant people.

I had absolutely no idea what that last post meant.....