Hey...it's 2.20 am, Sunday...just got back from wining and dining....lots of red, etc....and I miss one letter?
Gosh..........

Oh, and in reply to IPlural's comments, the history of a nation does not defend the actions of an individual. We know nothing about the individual concerned, and so we can only take them on face value based on their actions.

Of course, they may very well have taken these files out of ignorance and childish wonder, but that doesn't change what they've done. Sure, we should educate them if they have a geniune interest in customisation, but turning a blind eye to immoral actions isn't an education.

oh I agree, my thoughts of intent and action mostly are based upon the assumption of a second change being given if they comply freely and do, do the honorable thing.

I can not *stand* a thief and a person lacking in *honor* is useless and frankly a waste of valuable air and space in my opinion. I assuredly do not want them around me or do I care for them to be around those I find I care about in any manner.

that is one of the quandaries my wife faces with me and being in public and such, I am very liberal up to a point and beyond that point things become very black and white and I will not give a person who steps over that line a second positive thought. It doesn't even have to be a big thing in most peoples opinions, frankly it can be something as simple as someone being rude enough too a child, woman, elderly person or even an animal...

Also, no matter what takes places, I would not think any less of anyone in either direction, it is their work or part of a community in which they are a part of, and no one, least of all myself belongs playing at sitting in judgment of anyone for any reason even if it really doesn't matter to anyone else, it does to me, it diminishes me in my mind and I am not about to do that..

and in no manner did I mean to imply an attempt at brow beating, or ladeling guilt, indesision, or anything else upon anyone, just laying out possibilities
and maybe marks of different paths to consider.

I m a screwy one who believes in the Myth of Mythology and the positive, negative resulting karma based upon which side you align yourself upon

go figure huh?

ok, mum's the word and I've about made myself look wanker enough for one day sooooooo *zippppppppppp* mMMMmmM MM Mm

Okay Jafo, I forgive you. I still want your emoticon though...

I honestly didn't understand one word you just said IPlural.

It sounded good though...

Can't have it, mister g-haze...and I'm off to the land of nod, too....see you on the morrow....

boils down to, you've got to have personal honor and have it mean something to you, for it to mean something to others, and if you don't your not worth the time of day, basically...

but at the sametime, knowing this about myself, I have to allow the benifit of the doubt, or on a personal level I feel I am even less than the one I turn my back upon...



just my pov...

nighters Jafo

grayhaze, I'm one of those odd ducks that will give a person his last dollar as long as my wife or children haven't a need for it at the moment and do without when I find someone in need.

But I also can be one of the coldest jerks alive at the same time depending on a given situation, total emotional shut down and no remorse...

Neat trick my childhood taught me...

anyway...