being payed for a design

Good idea in theory, but not practical.

why is that splash? if somebody set up his acount, then he pays 10 dolar, and when he download something he has only 9.98 left
that money goes the the acount of the designer and to the owner of wincustomize. the only problem is the whole script you need to "cash"you money of you acount, this id crossed my mind when i saw that my stuff togheter was downloaded over 10000 times in a week, i can make a good living of it

Oh I see? So you kinda pay as you go, like a mobile phone. You pay say $10 and every time you download something, the moey is taken from this 'account'. Then when you have, say $2 left, you could pay another $10, so you will have $12 in your account. And then you download something... etc etc

Problem is that if people had to pay, you wouldn't get 10,000 downloads. Maybe a hundred or two at the most. :/

That is true! Who would want to pay for something you could do for free on other sites.

i charge a million bucks a minute...but business has been slim for the past 2000 years or so...

so now i just spend my time rambling on these threads annoying newbies and senior folk alike!

Kinrik: 'so now i just spend my time rambling on these threads annoying newbies and senior folk alike!'


Truer words were never spoken.....

yeah, i agree people are going to download less stuff, but this is one of the only sites where people can upload their own stuff, if you make money with your own designs, you can pay your downloads, its a good way to make people design more and better stuff, i should mind to pay 2 cents a download.

I wouldn't mind paying, but I wouldn't as long as I could get them for free somewhere else. You would have to have a lot of exclusive content, and you would have war keeping people from posting them for free everywhere else...

Aloha,
i think it's a good idea...2 cents aren't much money 4 good work...

Well, you will get a race and competition to whom gets the most downloads, and you will see a whole lot of lookalikes and derivations of the skins that gets the most downloads, until it gets so boring you lose interest.

Lecrayon...to a degree that is happening already....whether that be 'imitators' or just people themselves producing 'more of the same'....[this time it's blue, not like the 'other' blue, but a little more aqua]...

I agree with you Jafo. But if you can earn something for the initial mass of downloads it might even get worse.

You're probably right.
Commercial incentives can bring out the worst and most mediocre...

Yeah, agree with that, but the work only becomes better, because people wants to make money and now, there is already a race for the most downloads, thats just nice

Related question:

About what might be a good price to charge for selling a WB theme to a customer?

I'm talking about a small business that wants to buy a theme using their business colors and logo.

Jobeleca, contact Alexandrie or Treetog. Pixtudio has made a few of those. They may be able to help you.

So you mean you are making the theme for a company? well, then there is only 1 user, and they can do with it whatever they want, and probably you wont get permision to upload it here also, i think a good price is something between 100-200 dollars depends on the time you put in it, and the size of the company (for ex: if its microsoft you can let em pay 10000,-)

I was thinking about licensing it for $100 for 10 computers and $10 per additional computer, does this seem fair to you?

Also, should I use the same pricing scheme for the government? There's an admiral that is interested in one of the themes I am currently working on.

Link it to how long it takes you to make the skin and match that to a reasonable wage - say $15 an hour (you're a skilled skinner, right? Skill is worth paying for). Say it takes you 20 hours. That's $300 right there. Don't sell yourself cheap - more complex skins will take longer and so you should charge accordingly. Skins tend to be sold on a work-for-hire basis where you make the skin and they get the rights to it, so they can make as many copies as they want, but if you think a licensing scheme will work best in your particular situation, go with that. Just be very certain about what you are delivering, when you are delivering it by, who has the rights to the deliverables and (most importantly) when you will get paid.

Wow, jobeleca is in to the real skinning work, cool, hoping for such a asignment, but never comes to me .
i gues 100 is a fair price, and ten more for a computer it works on, could you mail me a screenshot, i am beginning to be intressted (mail: [email protected]) and for the goverment, dont know about how many computers you are talking then, but the way by the hour, like thegreenreaper says is also a way, good luck, and i hope you send me the screenshot

Just 1 question, how do you get the work, i mean.... how do you find it? or do they find you?

Basically I get business via word of mouth.

For a few years I have been making websites for various local companies. One of my clients recently saw a design on my laptop (the RedRew-Cru WB: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=18&SkinID=311 Logon: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=26&SkinID=589 that I'm working on as we speak) and asked me to do one for him in his company colors.

As for the government side, I live just outside Ft. Bragg which means I interact with lots of military folks. Also, I sent a screenshot of a navy theme I'm working on to my dad and he sent it to the commondant of the annapolis naval academy and a couple other admirals and they're interested in buying the final version. What I currently have is loosely based on FRESH: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=fresh&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=1 which means I have to do a lot more work and heavy mods before I can sell it.

Pretty fast work for only getting into skinning a couple weeks ago,

this is really nice, keep on going like this, these are your first design "jobs"?

Yes. I actually started doing skinning a few weeks back since it is completely different from the minimalist style I use to do web sites. I'm used to working with four colors max, almost always shades of blue, and no graphics, just areas of flat color arranged pleasingly.

I took on the RewRew-Cru project as a challenge because I have never worked with an orange based scheme before and I've also never had to do 3-D effects before. I'm totally enjoying being out of my comfort zone The main thing that's holding me back is that I'm still learning how everything goes together as I build the skins.