Carlitus Carlitus

i decline of this site

i decline of this site

I decided to no make more uploads on this site, and i also deleted my previous uploaded skins. As i consented to Stardock of using my skins when i uploaded them, they have the correct permission to use them.
Wy i reached this situation?
-I'm not in accordance with some actuaions when some skins/wallpaper are uploaded: for example, just uploading some skins, are immediatelly poor rated. This only can be done by 'moderators'... there's no a person always poor rating new skins.
-I'm not in accordance with newest skinners support on this site. Some skinners has showed me some works, that aren't accepted on WIncustomize, teorically by poor quality. ANd not always the skins have poor quality.
-I'm not in accordance with really democratic criteria selecting Featured skins: not always the skin are the most featured as is showed on top op Home page of WIncustomize. I don't speak about my skins, i speak about ALL authors skins.
-I'm not according with the actuation of some administrators of this site (not only for my last 'problem' (i'm using quotes, do you konw, mr.?)
And last:
-I'm not according with the criteria of this site selcting skinned applications. On this site seems to be only promoted the Stardocks aplications. And also seems to be supported and positivelly commented by administrators the WIncustomize and Stardock collaborators. In this messageboard i readed (one year ago +/-): "this site are intended to supply the disapearance of SKINZ.ORG, but Stardock support this site when the Stardock apps. are preferenced". Well, it seems to be Stardock apps the 'Kings' of this site. There's o reason for this, due to the use of propaganda on this site (included for a author as me that i obtained 70000 downloads on a month), and Stardock can amortize the costs of this site.
Not all my words are negative:
-Thanks to WIncustomize to give me the oportunity of share my skins and works with people of all the planet.
-Thans to T-Man for the help on the Stardock IRC
-Thanks to Martin for support me when i beginned to make skins one year ago.
-Thanks to mr Mormegil to support me, one year ago, and one month ago when i returned.
-Thanks to mr Jafo to trying to help me on 'learning' english and in the case of the rips.
-Thanks to all the people that readed this post and are tried to understand me.
This is my personal opinion and facts, and i not represent any other skinner (or yes?), if someone are offended, he/she must understand that i'm also offended. This not represent my definitive retreat, so i will follow in Wincustomize surelly, but all of yours must understand that i'm now very ennoyed to post more skins on this site.
Be good
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Reply #26 Top
time to have another go

/me waves the really big magic wand to make eveyone kind and considerate

i think i see what you are getting at Carlitus. it is always sad to see skinners leave. personally when i comment i always try to leave surportive comments. do remember, not everyone who can comment or rate has the practice or understanding to make a meaningful comment on your work. how can a non artist truely appreatiate what is required to create such things?

however, if you arent happy here, then you need to move to where you are happier. i just hope that with time you can return, and once more grace us with your creations.
Reply #27 Top
A quote of the day!!! A Zen quote!!! That's Great Kinrik My credentials to the new God!
Reply #28 Top
I am but a newbie to this site, but I have seen your (Carlitus) works and I really enjoy the art that you create. I will miss it once you are gone, and even if you never upload anymore, don't stop making the skins. You have talent! Don't let it go to waste.
Reply #29 Top
I am but a newbie to this site, but I have seen your (Carlitus) works and I really enjoy the art that you create. I will miss it once you are gone, and even if you never upload anymore, don't stop making the skins. You have talent! Don't let it go to waste.
Reply #31 Top
Is this really neccessary ? Do You want to see a reason for getting upset with a site ? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation.php?id=453785 I thought of leaving there because this is the second time some rude person is attacking me because he was banned once ripping the Sountox skins. (Usually I don't consider that a big catastrophe, only if a person attacks me that much). And this is main reason I enjoy this site so much. People can argue without being rude... So, what I really wanted to say : Problems occur everywhere. But it is no solution to leave... And english is not my native language also, so I hope I made myself clear.

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Reply #33 Top
Carlitus, I really hope you reconsider.

Writing software, especially desktop enhancement software is often a labor of love. It doesn't pay that well but what really makes it worth doing is when you see someone really talented doing great things. You are one of those great people doing great things. I was at C-net today and one of the guys there was running DesktopX. Do you know what he had on there? Some of your DesktopX objects.

Your work is what makes it all the work we do worth it. Writing software is often a thankless task. But when someone really talented and good and kind like you creates the wonderful things you do, it really makes those long hours we spend coding worth it.

I don't think most users realize the slow transition over the past several months. WinCustomize is your site now. Stardock's day to day involvement on it is very slight at this point. The people who are moderators are some of the top authors on the site. I can't even remember the last time I moderated a skin. The ones who moderate are the skin authors themselves in effect. Paxx and Treetog and Jafo and DavidK and Migeleto. I can't think of more qualified people to do these kinds of things. They also pick the featured skins usually (not Stardock).

I would really be a sad thing for our community if we lost out on your wonderful creations.

There is something to be said about being able to create the ultimate desktop by using a skin made by someone in Brazil (Treetog), a DesktopX theme made by someone in Spain (you), an icon package made by someone in Russia (DAK), and so on. 20 years ago, who would have imagined such things? That we can even do these things at all still strikes me as amazing.

I really hope you change your mind, if there's anything I can do to help you or anyone who feels there is something wrong let me know and I can try to do what I can to help.

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Reply #34 Top
Thanks all for your support. I observed that some great skinners are speaking about me, but also are speaking about themselves. I observed some thoughts by experienced skinners, and i deduct:
skinning, as all things, it have the god and the bad side... i'm only interested in the bad part: skinning are for me my first valve of escape (it means my prefered liking), and make skins and share them are for me like a drug... i can't live without them!! Tha bard side are allways the bad, and all of us will life with this, averyone has their bad side.
I never readed some messages like this that it comes from persons of other countries that i unknow (the countries and that persons).
I'm still angry, but i will reconsider.
Thanks all
Reply #35 Top
just remember, not all comments are equal. a bad comment/review from someone who doesnt really understand what you have achieved shouldnt have the same weight as a ballanced comment from an experienced skinner.

do YOU like what you have produced? are YOU happy with your skins? there are the most important questions.

remember, most people never comment, so the comments you get arent very reprisentative.
Reply #36 Top
Carlitus, we are going to put a system to prevent unfair rating. If you have suggestions don't hesitate to contact me.

[email protected]
Reply #37 Top
*HURRAY*
hopefully this will resolve a lot of the concerns over the ratings system
Reply #38 Top
Quote of the day:

"If you can laugh at yourself loud and hard every time you fall, people will think you're drunk."
Reply #39 Top
Carlitus...I'm a 20 year old guy from San Antonio, TX and I vote for you to do whatever is in your heart to do. I can certainly tell that you would like to stay, but very full of anger. You're work is more than welcome on here. When I first came to WinCustomize (when it opened), after the downfall of Skinz.org, I knew I would not have what we had at Skinz. I accepted that. One site falls, another is born, but it will never be the same. That comes with anything, A Business, Products, People. You're work has been loved by many on this site. I sure think its a shame that some people disrespect some people's work because of personal preference. The desecration of the work on this site is high, yet only a select few are responsible. I suppose a few can mean a lot when not many people comment on some themes and rate some themes. Personally, I don't believe in ratings. The ratings of my skins are high, yet I would like to see them discarded. You've gotten messages from Alexandrie, Treetog, Fogboy, and Dangeruss, all requesting your presence here. When the best skinners on the site are asking for you to stay, it means something. You're work is wonderful! Some I like, others I don't care for, but I would never think of disrespecting you and bring you down for doing what you love. I do skins (not that great but have been published in a magazine), photography (Won 2 Awards) and Wrote a book and had it published (Emotions Through Time), nothing seems to have produced any type of praise from people. Dissapointing, Yes, but I do it because its what I love, It's what makes me happy. I posted a screenshot of a new theme that I was working on for DesktopX and the comments weren't too pleasing, so I didnt post it. I haven't posted anything in a while and probably will not do so. But thats personal preference. But please, we love you and your work. You will be truly missed if you decide to leave us.
Reply #40 Top
Thanks Alexandrie, when i'm reconsidering the return to WIncustomize, i'm also reconsidering a good system for rates (i think that this is not the problem, but i know that the skiners always consider their rattings). I will email you, but the most important are that you, and admins of Wincustomize are conseidering the skinners opinion for constructint this site (as bakerstreet said -very intelligent-, the skinners and their works make great some programs -MacOSX don't will be a riped system if they don't have good designed icons!). So, i think, the opinion of skinners must be considered. Put a poll/thread requesting the opinion of skinners, the past year i readed some thread requesting opinions to WIncustomize users. Surelly, they (as me) will agree.
Reply #41 Top
thanks Karlie, i'm also missing skinz. I think you are also a big artist, when you appreciate the work of others (god or bad). You make remember be when i was (more) young and i also winned a Award (for young comic authors in Spain), and i have the best future on my country! The future has arribed too much faster, and it was not good. Skinning was supplied my artistic thoughts
Reply #42 Top
Thanks all, sincerelly...
I, surelly like most of the skinners, make my skins for my pleasure, and i always try to get no attention to rates (on this site or other sites), but, when you are congratuled by rates/other skinners/etc., you feel like to make more and better skins.
I don't cry requesting best rates (on my last uploads, i have one 4 in a wallp correctly, and on my last icon packs a have 10 rates, correctly), i only mean more respect... for me principally, and for other skinners. I said that i received some works of some person (2 wallpapers). One are very bad, i know, but the other are acceptable. The 2 works are used the Windows logo, and the author have no instant access. I know that recursive wallpapers is a bad designing task, but i apply this on all works around Wincustomize. Maybe a different rating system (1-10 are more easy to rise/fall than 0-100, for example)
Reply #43 Top
Key sentence: "I, [...], make my skins for my pleasure", 'nuff said. Your motivation seems right, so you'll get over this crisis.
Reply #44 Top
I'll second Carlitus on the 1-100. Good idea.

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Reply #45 Top
No, 1-100 is the same thing!
The rattings are the problem, not the value
Think about it!

I am very glad to hear from Alexandrie, that it is going to be a change to System ratting to prevent unfair ratings!
Reply #47 Top
Adni means that switching from 1-10 to 1-100 won't solve a thing. A 5 will then be a 50. Nothing will change, except the scale.
Reply #48 Top
I have exposed my idea of a 3 rate system instead of 10 or 100:
1- I don't like it
2- It's alright, I guess
3- I love it

Because, sincerely, I find that I have problems rating between those. When I look at a skin, it always fall in one of those 3 rates. Never will I look at a skin and say "Man, this skin is a 4!".
Anyway, my idea was rejected, so, oh well.
Reply #49 Top
Why not change the theory behind the ratings and go with a yes/no setup, so people can get their preferences to streamline what they see. It is all about what your interests are, as a downloader, that determine what you like, right?

Does the following submission contain ___ (Y/N)

Text:
Gridlines:
3D Object(s):
Monocolor:
Greyscale Only:
(can't figure out the wording for people, animals, etc.):
Binary Numbering:
etc...

I dunno, just a thought...
Reply #50 Top
and then, in the tradition of the skinning your own website theory, you can go into your preferences and set your own ratings for those categories. then, based on your choice, you automate the rating system based off of your own preferences, and it will be different for each person. plus, this will help in that you will usually view the ones you rated highest, since the programming from the database can be set to read your preferences and display what you choose, and will likely invoke you placing decent comments since you will be viewing what you were looking for anyways, and whatever you see that you don't like, will stll be basically what you prefer, so you can provide CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, since you will want to actually see your chosen type of works get better...in theory at least.

did i make any sense?

ok Jafo, dig in