Sick of Software crap!

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I am so ticked off. I am just so sick of Microsoft's software being utter garbage. Don't they know how to make a #@$@# exception handler?!?

I was working on my home page for over an hour with MS Front Page. I did a new document and POW, the whole thing crashes losing all of it. Not just grunt work but creative writing stuff that is really hard to just rewrite from scratch.

It really pisses me off that their bread and butter apps are still so buggy that they crash. They don't have an auto-save feature and when you're in the zone, saving is not something you should have to think of doing constantly.

And it's not just Microsoft, the other "big guys" sofware routinely just crashes or screws up. My virus checker interupted my NWN nights game (who was the genius who felt that every time a virus is received in email it needs to abort you out of a game to tell you that you need to quarantine it????). Needless to say, I wasn't able to get back in the game and had to go to a previous save that was a half hour old.

My paint programs are buggy as all hell to. In one, hitting Ctrl-Insert for copy (I never got into the habit of using Ctrl-C) will switch the program into add select mode for no apparent reason. The other one I use just crashes randomly or bogs down after awhile of using it and it's on VERSION 7 for crying out loud (the other is on version 10).

Now I know the software that I work on isn't always perfect either. But it doesn't cost $500 apiece either. For $500 this stuff should be a lot LOT better than it is.

Sorry to vent, so much for my home page getting done today.
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Reply #1 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Why do you use FrontPage anyway? You should know better.
Seriously, get your hands on Dreamweaver MX, it's pure clean code and doesn't crash. Can handle ASP and PHP too. It's a must for quick and clean HTML. Nothing like Frontcrap. I speak from experience.

As for you anti-virus program, I totally understand.
The other day I was playing a game of soccer, and I was having a beautifull game! I was winning 6-1 with only a few minutes left to the game. The kind of game you wish you could frame and put it on the wall!
Anyway, Norton Internet Security poped up to tell me that somebody wanted to break in. BAM! Crashed my game. Lost. *snifle*
Reply #2 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Oh, and for the record, I would NEVER want an auto-save on my HTML editor. Too often I start from a page with a similar layout, make the text changes I need and add the couple of appropriate pictures, then I save the document with a different name. With an autosave feature, there are many times I would have lost my original page. As a matter of fact, it happened a couple of times anyway, when I just control-S without thinking... DOH!
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #3 from WinCustomize Forums Top
to get around that paxx, if i'm modifying an existing file, the first thing i do is save the template file with a new name and work on the copy

brad's right, standards suck. in modern industry, quantity and timliness is waaay more important than quality. it's such an aggregious insult to the work ethic that made this country a success i'm surprised it's not talked about more.

my grandpa was a carpenter, and a good one. he didn't consider anything finished unless it was done right.
Reply #4 from WinCustomize Forums Top
"Grandpa was a carpenter he built houses stores and banks
Chain-smoked Camel cigarettes and hammered nails in planks..." - John Prine (there's more but.... )

Listen to paxx Brad, Dreamweaver is the way to go for web stuff. Front Page is a total disaster.

I figured out once what I've spent over the years upgrading my software. I have about $1200 in CorelDraw, $1100 in Photoshop, $800 in Pagemaker, etc... It would be nice if once they'd come out with a new version and offer it free to the loyal customers that have already bought the damn thing over and over. And it would be really nice if the program worked right out of the box...
Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I am trying not to forget, that we are leaving at the primitive period of the computer-software future, but sometimes is very hard
Reply #6 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Nothing to do with software, but do you remember when you bought something and it came with a warranty that you didn't have to pay for. Those days are pretty much gone. That should say something about the lack of craftmanship. Nothing is built to last anymore.

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Reply #7 from WinCustomize Forums Top
While I'm looking for a permenant web job, I'm just ignoring any places that are looking for someone experienced with FrontPage. It's just a tool for amateurs. Any web developer/designer with any amount of experience or knowledge uses Dreamweaver (or sometimes GoLive in real pro-Adobe companies).

It's well known that FrontPage creates messy, overly bloated HTML, with pages only working correctly in IE if you try to do anything clever.
Reply #8 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Listen to Paxx, Brad

I can give you a great example of how good it is. Even ME was able to make my first site (Integration Worx) with it.

If I could, then everybody can make one.
Reply #9 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I've tried dream weaver and didn't like it but I'll give it another shot. I already PAID for Front page.

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Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Brad you've been around long enough to know better then to say the word "Frontpage" on any skinning msg board...
(us Frontpage 2K ppl must stay in the closet)
Reply #12 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I still smoke Camel...from time to time...
'Nine out of ten men who have tried Camels prefer women'....

As for 'hating' proggies, I've found the best bet is to be aware of their short-comings and work within them....one way or another...
Reply #13 from WinCustomize Forums Top
And what about the command for quit, on the Maciontosh it's cmd+q, win.-alt+f4.
Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Brad, here is my philosophy. "Why do it yourself when you can pay someone to do it"
Reply #15 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Listen to motion and hire Grayhaze.

Don't listen to me, 'cos I was known as the infamous Mr. Code_Everything_in_Notepad at previous jobs.

Come to think of it, software rarely crashes on me. Perhaps you have bad karma?
Reply #16 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Interesting, if you know the program crashes or can crash, why you don't take precautionary steps like saving to a helpfile if 'chapters'are finished..
Today my cursorXP crashed..oh bugger..didn't think that program would crash...I have had crashes in DesktopX, and a lot of other stardock progs, but do I swear at stardock...no..I still like them.

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Reply #17 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I concur with everyones suggestion of using Dreamweaver. You can type nice code and it won't rearrange it in some weird M$ way or add a bunch of Dreamweaver specific stuff like frontpage was always doing to me.

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Reply #18 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Frogboy,
I'm surprised that you would even suggest that MS use well written exception handlers. They tend to make goofs transparent to the user. MS's policy has always been that all flubs, and 3% of all correct actions, must be punished in the most annoying manner conceivable, and their programmers are endlessly inventive in this regard. I'm going to have to reskin my Bill Gates voodoo doll, as it's no longer recognizable.
Reply #19 from WinCustomize Forums Top
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tell you the truth frogman.. i do experience some crashes on Frontpage too but i love frontpage cuase it is the first html shit i learned since my early days... i hate the fact that it always crashes.. but tell you the truth basically I NEEVER NBOUGHT any MS stuff even im using them that's the whole picture here.. Frontpage crashed?? that's MS problems but for me to buy gawdamn lincense for buuggy progrz?? noooo way... i rather wait redhat linux to be like MS and get for free... LONG LIVE MS!

for norton antivirus... and other WINXP programs try to go to options and change annything there...

i do tweak my MS stuff sometimes make it more NON disturbing... go to registry and stuff like that...

Frontpage alwayz crash and other MS stuffs aswell... but seriously try to get some pirates stuff my man then at least your life would be better.......................... haha

pirates are for home users, not company unless your risking your ass for BSA..
Reply #21 from WinCustomize Forums Top
bugggy progz SOLUTIONS: tweak them and as for dream weaver can anyone teach me? i know how to use adobe stuff but it's not that user frenly compare to MS stuff.. long live MS
Reply #22 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear...

/me watches the Can-O-Worms ease open
Reply #23 from WinCustomize Forums Top
/me fires a carefully aimed shot to the back of WindozeXP's head

Sorry that you folks had to see that. He was clearly in a lot of discomfort and was rambling like a madman. It was for his own good. Now he can get some peace in the place downstairs with his other criminal friends...