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Tiles Beta Feedback Thread

This is the official feedback thread for the Tiles beta.  If you have any issues please report them here.

Make sure to include as much relevant info as possible such as what OS you are using.

 

Tiles v0.80 (3/10/11)

 

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Reply #77 Top

Neil, I'm really enjoying Tiles, but one thing that would make it perfect would be if programs could be moved up or down on the page so that they could be alphabetical or in groups.

Any chance of that happening in an update?

Reply #78 Top

bump

 

Reply #79 Top

I've noticed something and reproduced it on my desktop and laptop but it's not consistent and I can't figure out what the trigger is......

Using Aero and setting the skin to match and having it on autohide, I sometimes lose the Systray button if I uncheck autohide. In the case of my laptop it completely disappears and on my desktop I can see it behind the shortcut icons on the bottom. If there's no shortcuts at the bottom it doesn't seem to happen or it "fixes" itself as I tab through pages.

Laptop is W7x64 Pro SP1

Desktop is W7x64 Home SP1

Reply #80 Top

Another strange one.

System: Windows XP SP3 (with WindowBlinds & ObjectDock2)

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder

Why mention the mouse?  Because with Tiles loaded I get serious lag on the mouse particularly if I move the mouse around quickly.  If you throw the mouse around the screen you can build up a lag of more than a second - i.e. stop moving and it can take the mouse more than a second to catch up with all the queued movements.

This particular mouse, in case you are not familiar with it, is a high DPI, fast polling gaming mouse with its own driver.

Note that the lag is on the desktop and not in games (although I havent been playing many games where I'd notice recently).

Reply #81 Top

This may or may not have been mentioned by others, but I have noted the following:

If you set Tiles to load automatically at startup and also use Tiles to suppress the Win7 taskbar, the taskbar is not completely suppressed. Rather it goes into Autohide mode, causing it to reappear whenever I cursor over the icons in my ObjectDock dock (docked to the bottom of the screen).

I have resolved this by using ObjectDock to suppress the taskbar.

Also, I have noticed that unless you select the option to have Tiles launch automatically at startup, Tiles does not include any power options (Shutdown, etc.) and it is necessary either to access the Shutdown button directly through Win7, or put a docklet into ObjectDock.

I assume that the conflict with the taskbar will be resolved eventually, but I would like to see power options available in Tiles whether the program is loaded automatically or manually.

All in all, though, I am really enjoying the program. I can place it to the side of my second screen, get rid of the taskbar, and free up real estate on my first screen. I still haven't figured out what the filter function really does, but as I am not a power user, it may not be all that relevant.

Reply #83 Top

Quoting sophiesboy, reply 81
This may or may not have been mentioned by others, but I have noted the following:

If you set Tiles to load automatically at startup and also use Tiles to suppress the Win7 taskbar, the taskbar is not completely suppressed. Rather it goes into Autohide mode, causing it to reappear whenever I cursor over the icons in my ObjectDock dock (docked to the bottom of the screen).

I have resolved this by using ObjectDock to suppress the taskbar.

Also, I have noticed that unless you select the option to have Tiles launch automatically at startup, Tiles does not include any power options (Shutdown, etc.) and it is necessary either to access the Shutdown button directly through Win7, or put a docklet into ObjectDock.

I assume that the conflict with the taskbar will be resolved eventually, but I would like to see power options available in Tiles whether the program is loaded automatically or manually.

All in all, though, I am really enjoying the program. I can place it to the side of my second screen, get rid of the taskbar, and free up real estate on my first screen. I still haven't figured out what the filter function really does, but as I am not a power user, it may not be all that relevant.
End of sophiesboy's quote

When Tiles is set to hide the taskbar the taskbar should remain invisible as the taskbar is not simply being set into autohide.  I would advise against using the ObjectDock method to hide the taskbar as this is incompatible with the correct functioning of a number of system tray icons on Windows 7.

Do you have any other applications running which may do anything to the taskbar?

The power options are not linked to how the application starts, but to the hide taskbar option.  Unless that is set in Tiles the menu will not show.

Reply #84 Top

Quoting WebReg, reply 80
Another strange one.

System: Windows XP SP3 (with WindowBlinds & ObjectDock2)

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder

Why mention the mouse?  Because with Tiles loaded I get serious lag on the mouse particularly if I move the mouse around quickly.  If you throw the mouse around the screen you can build up a lag of more than a second - i.e. stop moving and it can take the mouse more than a second to catch up with all the queued movements.

This particular mouse, in case you are not familiar with it, is a high DPI, fast polling gaming mouse with its own driver.

Note that the lag is on the desktop and not in games (although I havent been playing many games where I'd notice recently).
End of WebReg's quote

We have found an issue on XP with Tiles trying to load a dll constantly which could possibly explain this due to the higher cpu usage than ideal being caused by this. 

However if this continues with the next set of betas it is likely to be a problem you would need to speak to the manufacturer about as the mouse polling frequency may be far too high for desktop use as there is little point having a mouse frequency far higher than your screen refresh rate when on the desktop.  The higher the frequency, the more messages sent to an application, the more cpu used to process those messages.

Reply #85 Top

win7 x64 multimonitor setting. When selecting Left/Rightside of monitor and adding/removing monitors it can happen Tiles latches on to the left/rightside of the  first/second/third..... monitor resulting that Tiles is in the center of the desktop neither at the right of the one nor left of the other. If Tiles  is in autohide mode there's no way that it unhides

Second, even in Tiny setting it takes a lot of real estate. A scaling slider would be nice instead of a preset.

 

 

 

Reply #86 Top

Quoting petrossa, reply 85
win7 x64 multimonitor setting. When selecting Left/Rightside of monitor and adding/removing monitors it can happen Tiles latches on to the left/rightside of the  first/second/third..... monitor resulting that Tiles is in the center of the desktop neither at the right of the one nor left of the other. If Tiles  is in autohide mode there's no way that it unhides

Second, even in Tiny setting it takes a lot of real estate. A scaling slider would be nice instead of a preset.

End of petrossa's quote

I am a little unclear on what you mean by in the centre of the desktop.  Do you mean the bar is not positioned at the edge of a monitor or just not at the very edges of the entire desktop?  Tiles is not required to be at the edge of the entire desktop, just the edge of a screen and if that is happening then that is working as designed.

Should you have it in autohide mode and wish to open it up, run tiles again.  It should show up with the right click menu open.

Regarding the size, we have added in a very tiny option for the next beta, but thats about as small as it can realistically go.

Reply #87 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 84

However if this continues with the next set of betas it is likely to be a problem you would need to speak to the manufacturer about as the mouse polling frequency may be far too high for desktop use as there is little point having a mouse frequency far higher than your screen refresh rate when on the desktop.  The higher the frequency, the more messages sent to an application, the more cpu used to process those messages.
End of Neil's quote

I'll try at a lower polling rate and see if it helps and let you know.

Reply #88 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 83


When Tiles is set to hide the taskbar the taskbar should remain invisible as the taskbar is not simply being set into autohide.  I would advise against using the ObjectDock method to hide the taskbar as this is incompatible with the correct functioning of a number of system tray icons on Windows 7.

Do you have any other applications running which may do anything to the taskbar?

The power options are not linked to how the application starts, but to the hide taskbar option.  Unless that is set in Tiles the menu will not show.
End of Neil's quote

I noticed the taskbar problem at startup, with no other programs running. In fact, my preferred use of Tiles would be for it to load automatically at startup, only loading ObjectDock manually, as I find that Tiles loads more quickly than OD, and I could get to work that much more quickly.

So aside from background processes, the only other programs that I load at startup are a few Samurize instances, monitoring CPU usage, etc., which don't effect the taskbar.

 

Reply #89 Top

Quoting WebReg, reply 87

Quoting Neil Banfield, reply 84
However if this continues with the next set of betas it is likely to be a problem you would need to speak to the manufacturer about as the mouse polling frequency may be far too high for desktop use as there is little point having a mouse frequency far higher than your screen refresh rate when on the desktop.  The higher the frequency, the more messages sent to an application, the more cpu used to process those messages.

I'll try at a lower polling rate and see if it helps and let you know.
End of WebReg's quote

 

Seems solid now with the lower polling rate. :)

Reply #90 Top

have tiles bar behave more like taskbar

allow tile bar to be docked on top and bottom

by allowing locking / unlocking

if it is locked then it cannot be resized by grabbing outter edge and it cannot be moved from current docking position

if it is unlocked then it can be resized by grabbing outter edge and it cannot be moved from current docking position to top, bottom, left and right, and optionally even float

allow tiles to be dragged / dropped into objectdock

add more themes, including one which sets it to the same theme, color, ect as the taskbar

allow the tiles to be reordered by drag and dropping

if i right mouse click on a tile i should see restore and maximize option.

allow me to add objectdock widgets to tile bar

Reply #91 Top

Slight clash with Steam version of Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic.  Whilst starting KOTOR it keeps being pulled back to the desktop, KOTOR is still running in the background and can be brought to the front briefly by Alt-Tabbing but it will quickly switch back again.

Reply #92 Top

Is it possible to hide the Icon descriptions in Tiles?

And i want to have 2 lines for the programs.

Are there some plans for somthing like this?

...would be cool :grin:

Reply #93 Top

Tiles seems like it will be useful but it would be appreciated if the contextual menus could always appear in front of the tile window. I'm on XP SP3.

 

Thanks!

Reply #94 Top

I've seen an issue with Firefox 5 where some of the site windows will remain even after they've been closed. I think it might have to do with Adobe crashes but I'm not sure. Closing and restarting Firefox is the only way to get rid of them once they've "stuck"

Reply #95 Top

Minor issue: if System Tray icons are enabled, a Tile occasionally displays behind them.  it appears and disappears intermittently.

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, nVidia GeForce GTX 285M 280.26 drivers

Reply #96 Top

having intermittent problem with latest tiles on clean install of windows windows 7 x64 with latest patches

sometimes tiles disappears when i minimize all the windows by clicking on the bottom right corner of the windows toolbar.

it then reappears if a restore any of the minimized windows.

this did not happen in the past and it maybe caused by this recent updates from microsoft which i got this month.

i have even tried completely uninstalling and then reinstalled tiles and the problem continues to intermittently occur.

Reply #97 Top

Ok, my system is win7 ultimate(x64) in japanese language.

Last time I put a shortcut for "my document" in (which is using japanese words), it crashed.

Now my Tiles keep crashing every time when I launch it.

And no matter how many times i reinstall it, uninstall it , it still keep the last settings (the one which makes it crash)

Which means when you uninstall Tiles, something's still left in your computer...

 

Here's my suggestion:

1) give a alternative option of "delete existing settings" when you uninstall it... 

2)   work on multi-language support guys...

 

Sorry for my poor English.Hopes that i've made it understandable...

 

Reply #98 Top

Quoting Lantec, reply 94
I've seen an issue with Firefox 5 where some of the site windows will remain even after they've been closed. I think it might have to do with Adobe crashes but I'm not sure. Closing and restarting Firefox is the only way to get rid of them once they've "stuck"
End of Lantec's quote

Did you check Task Manager... does it have to do with memory leak? If so, updating to ff 7.0.1 might solve the problem... just a thought.

Reply #99 Top

First let me say that I have downloaded the "free" version of Tiles and I have to say that the concept is a good one, it's been quite a while since someone has come up with software that is actually usefull and not just a ripoff of someone elses idea, with that being said ..............
 
It really bothers me when a company advertises their software as free when it is really not, such as Stardocks software, your "free" version of Tiles just like most of the other "free" versions of your software and is VERY LIMITED on configuration or just not configurable at all, which is why there is absolutely no Stardock software on my system and after I finish writing this Tiles will be removed also, even though the concept is intriguing your "free" version is too limited for me to see what it ACTUALLY will do. If you want me to purchase something then give me something in return, don't just tell me something is free then give me the "bare bones" and expect me to come running with cash in my hands.
 
When you say free, in my mind that means 100%, no bs, no strings attached for the full blown version of the software, otherwise if I have to pay for it or any portion thereof then it's called "SHAREWARE", so lets call a spade a spade here and what Tiles is .......shareware, not freeware, shareware.
 
This is the reason why those of us in the skinning and Windows customization community would never recommend anything Stardock to anyone because there are always strings attached to your downloads.

Reply #100 Top

What a concept....Stardock giving away free, full versions of all it's software. Man, that would be so cool!!!  Only drawback....Stardock makes no money, goes belly up, then we're all screwed as far as customization is concerned. I say this because OS Customization and Stardock go hand in hand.

 

Quoting edee2,
 
This is the reason why those of us in the skinning and Windows customization community would never recommend anything Stardock to anyone because there are always strings attached to your downloads.

 

 

Now that IS laughable. WinCustomize/Stardock represents the lion's share of Windows Customization community and software.