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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

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Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   

UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!

This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname:  oxygen.typefrag.com
Port: 50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #376 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 378
hmm maybe I can get ninki to take a break from school and teseer a break from eq and me a break from lotro
End of OMG_Jona's quote

Give it a go, jona! I feel pretty confident that the cash prize involved is about to become quite a bit more than you'd expect. 

Reply #377 from Demigod Forums Top

how did my name get up there before I even knew about the tourney lol.  And everyone teamd up with me :( sadface.  I wonder if kalel will join my team ninki is uber busy

Elemental: Reforged
Reply #378 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 380
how did my name get up there before I even knew about the tourney lol.  And everyone teamd up with me sadface.  I wonder if kalel will join my team ninki is uber busy
End of OMG_Jona's quote

heh - i just added you after you chimed in on the dg tourney money page. 

Reply #379 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_Jona, reply 380
how did my name get up there before I even knew about the tourney lol.  And everyone teamd up with me sadface.  I wonder if kalel will join my team ninki is uber busy
End of OMG_Jona's quote

you gotta convince ninki! he's lying that league of legends player! I know he's super busy but 2 games a day for the old days won't kill him :D

Reply #380 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 357
2 games with demigod restrictions 

1 without 

3 games total. sounds good to me.
End of OMG_ZEX's quote

 

Well... since a lot of top notch players want the third game to be played without restrictions "for the sake of more variety" then I suggest we make the second game more restrictive... for the sake of dg variety of course.

1) DA, Reg

2) TB, QoT, Sed, Occ

3) Rook, UB, Oak, LE

1st game as already agreed, 3rd game FFA selection, 2nd game you use one shitty DG (group 1) one medium DG (group 2) and a tier 1 (group 3) dg.

The way things are now it will be probably be two top dgs and a reg or two medium dgs and a top... this way we'll have some teams that won't ever be played with either the restrictions as they stand now or a ffa selection.

McShane and Cowbuttzex have already stated their support for more variety so you can just count their votes right now for this system.

 

Reply #381 from Demigod Forums Top

I am ok for thunder's propose.  We could even restrict more to a level that teams are forced to play a certain mirror match combo.l 1 tb 1 reg 1 qot for example. 

I feel sarcasm in the first paragraph thunder, i hope you don't think that "top notch players" are dying to play only tier 1 dgs.

Reply #382 from Demigod Forums Top

I feel sarcasm in the first paragraph thunder, i hope you don't think that "top notch players" are dying to play only tier 1 dgs.
End of quote

I'd like nothing more than to play tb all the live long day. 

We don't have to go with no restrictions on the 3rd you know... we busy voting n shite. 

Reply #383 from Demigod Forums Top

Well.. maybe a leetle bit of the ol sarcasm, but not a dickish amount I hope... and I definitely wasn't talking about you Orcun, I hear your Reg playing is scary.

I vote no on FFA selections on the third game.  If players want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos, then they can agree to do so when playing in matches with other players who want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos.

Reply #384 from Demigod Forums Top

I vote no on FFA selections on the third game. If players want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos, then they can agree to do so when playing in matches with other players who want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos.
End of quote

oi - we are getting more and more complex when simple is much faster to organize. 

Ok - so the options are

1.  3 games played - using only the tourney rules and dg selection

2.  3 games played - game 1 and 2 using tourney rules, game 3 pick any dg you want

3.  3 games played - game 1 and 2 using tourney rules, game 3 both teams must agree as to whether or not to do pick any dg or to keep the rules.  If no consensus is reached, then game 3 will be done by tourney rules.

I'm setting the point system in stone though.  1 point for a win.  0 points for a loss. 

 

Reply #385 from Demigod Forums Top

I was just being touchy thunder:) I understand what you mean.

i think one more thing that we should discuss is when and how the games are gonna take place.Should everyone joining the tourney have lagwars vent ready to make it easier to arrange games?

Also lets say X team lost 9 games in a row and they go "**** it, we don't wanna play more of this ****" that would kinda mess up the whole point system. Would we delete all the points played against that team and simply eliminate that team like they never existed?

Another problem is some teams up there active players and would be easy to get a hold of, some might not be. Is there any way to prevent searching for opponents for day?

If it's gonna be free for teams to play their games whenever they want to in any order, should there be a time limit for each team to play at least 1 of their matches each week? So let's say X team played a game today and before the next week same day, they should arrange 1 more match or they get a punishment of some sort.

This can also be sorted out by arranging a set timetable for games beforehand after a discussion to find out what would be convenient for players in general. Let's say X and Z team has to play this week, they agree on a time and if one team dodges they get 3 losses.

So i think we need a fixture list(not sure if this is the right word,just looked it up from dictionary)

Reply #386 from Demigod Forums Top

 

Quoting Thundercles, reply 386
If players want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos, then they can agree to do so when playing in matches with other players who want to play with their uberpowerful all tier 1 dg combos.
End of Thundercles's quote

 WAHHH!  The flip side of your argument is; if you want to just do a no rook, oak, ub, ereb tournament why don't you say so instead of unleashing your fury on anyone who has learned more then one character and not just specialized in queen or tb?  I will agree with whatever you propose, pacov please count thunders vote as 2 because he has my full support.

Reply #387 from Demigod Forums Top

well we spent an hour and a half trying to get a game,  and still havent played one!

Reply #388 from Demigod Forums Top

Are you playing with Zen?  I finished a game like an hour ago then thought everyone got off for the night.

Edit-Well of course I tried to come along and help out but you crashed!

Reply #389 from Demigod Forums Top

No zen is talking in vent but wont play

Reply #390 from Demigod Forums Top

Who the hell is defender

Reply #391 from Demigod Forums Top

Some German guy who wanted to play with us, Nom knows him, Celmare I think he called him.

Reply #392 from Demigod Forums Top

I don't want to sound smart, but last tournament everybody was worried about the queen beast combo, which did not even make it to the final. So hypothesizes are worthless, our system is balanced very well I think.

Reply #393 from Demigod Forums Top

Imo, a forum dedicated to the tourney could be done. It's quick and easy to do.

There could be :

  • a section for match results, one thread per match, so people can post comments on it
  • a section for match scheduling
  • a thread with all replays
  • a thread with the tournament chart
  • a thread with the rules
  • a section for issues
  • etc...

I tried it few years ago for a tournament on Halo PC, and it worked pretty well. Having a small forum dedicated to an event makes organization easier for admins, people are more involved, things go faster, etc.

Just my 2 cents.

By the way again, having a cash prize is not necessary to get subscribtions. People play Demigod because they like it, not to earn money. Dont be afraid of organizing others tournament even if there is no cash prize, people will still love it.

Reply #394 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 387


3.  3 games played - game 1 and 2 using tourney rules, game 3 both teams must agree as to whether or not to do pick any dg or to keep the rules.  If no consensus is reached, then game 3 will be done by tourney rules.


 
End of OMG_pacov's quote

Actually... I was thinking more of this scenario:

Team A:  Hey, you guys wanna just play with whatever demigods you want for all our games?

Team B:  Sounds good... kinda bored with using Rook/Reg/Oak over and over.

Reply #395 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm for either. After all I think only a few tier 1 demigod games would be very interesting to watch given the different skill levels of players in this game.

Reply #396 from Stardock Forums Top

Actually... I was thinking more of this scenario:

Team A: Hey, you guys wanna just play with whatever demigods you want for all our games?

Team B: Sounds good... kinda bored with using Rook/Reg/Oak over and over.
End of quote

Nah - we should have a standard - period.  That way we're all judged by the same scale for the most part.  Once you go down that road, people can throw out whatever rules they don't want.  Note to self - don't think we made much progress on the rules yesterday...

Reply #397 from Demigod Forums Top

Vote:  My vote is Tourney rules for all 3 games of the match, primarily because we took the time to agree on a decent system.

 

Rules

 

Proposed Tourney Organization Rule:  If a team drops out [Team A] and doesn't complete all of their matches, any points earned by beating Team A will be stripped from all teams that played and won against Team A.  Since losing doesn't have impact your total points that won't pose an issue.  (I can't think of a viable and fair way to handle this issue other than the above) - Thanks Orcun for noticing this. 

Please, if you decide to drop out of the tournament then at least have the courtesy to inform everyone of the decision. 

Proposed Tourney Organization Rule:  Teams can play each other at anytime.  We should split all of the teams into 2+ groups with the goal being that you play all of the teams in your group first.  We can set a time limit for each grouping to complete all of their games.  Once complete we will merge the groups to finish the tourney.  Time frame and final organization can be set after registration closes.

Final Tourney Organization Rule:  Everyone plays each other for a total of 3 games.  Recommended to close voting.  Each game is 1 point.  If a team loses the first two games and decides not to play the 3rd game then it is considered a forfeit. 

 

 

Custom Sub-Forum

Pacov, in regards to Darz comment, do you think Stardock will set up a sub-forum for us for the tourney?  If not, we can use my clans website where i have complete control over the forums (you would too pacov)

Darz, A cash prize, while not necessary, certainly helps to draw the players back to the game.  I've already seen a bunch of old schoolers showing back up (Jona and kisersosa for example).  Plus with the current player count we're looking at close to 12 teams which is awesome!

 

 

 

Current Vote Tallies:

High Tower Vote:

Votes for high towers:  Total votes:  9

  • pacov
  • darz4
  • jongalt
  • pangea__2
  • Iz_
  • Darkliath

Votes for normal towers: Total Votes  13

  • McShane
  • bloodowl
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion
  • nom
  • Zen


Let's close the voting on this at the end of the day. It's a close vote, please add yours if you haven't done so. 

 

3 games Tourney Rules for demi choice versus 2 games tourney rules + 1 game FFA

Votes for 3 games of tourney rules 

  • Jongalt (I can be swayed easily on this one though lol)
  • Thundercles
  • McShane (based on his comment that he will support Thunder)
  • Darz4
  • Pacov
  • Darkliath
  • Bad Daddy
  • Chiefy (assumed)

 

Votes for 1 game FFA

  • Orcun

 

Please vote on this topic, let's close the voting at the end of the day tomorrow (Thursday)

 

Official Meeting Place - Lagwars Ventrillo

Oxygen.Typefrag.com port 50216

Pacov - can you set some sub-channels for the tournament, password protected perhaps the password should be: DG

It would be easiest to schedule games in the vent channel (and in the forums as well) Someone on each team should have a mic. and could jump in the vent to get the game going.  It wouldn't be required to play in the vent of course.

 

 

 

Reply #398 from Demigod Forums Top

"3 games Tourney Rules for demi choice versus 2 games tourney rules + 1 game FFA"

I vote 1 game FFA.

Reply #399 from Demigod Forums Top

 

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 400

Pacov, in regards to Darz comment, do you think Stardock will set up a sub-forum for us for the tourney?  If not, we can use my clans website where i have complete control over the forums (you would too pacov)

End of OMG_Jongalt26's quote

You can use http://www.freeforums.org/ which let you create a forum very quickly and for free, too.

(for example it took me 2 minutes to set this up : http://thisisatest2.freeforums.org/)

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 400

Darz, A cash prize, while not necessary, certainly helps to draw the players back to the game.  I've already seen a bunch of old schoolers showing back up (Jona and kisersosa for example).  Plus with the current player count we're looking at close to 12 teams which is awesome!

End of OMG_Jongalt26's quote

Of course, I didnt say it was a bad thing ^^, just emphazising the fact that cash prize is not a crucial point and that you guys could still organize (in the future) a competition without any money involvement.

Reply #400 from Demigod Forums Top

Orcun, you've been added to the tally, thanks!

Thanks Darz, that's a great solution should we not be able to get a temporary sub forum here!!  (i would prefer it in the DG forums for simplicity) 

 

Darz, can you vote please?