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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   


UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!


This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname: 
oxygen.typefrag.com
Port:
50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #352 Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 346

Quoting 4Nana, reply 344there is already incentive because they have to pick up a reg or da.  I don't see the issue?  Perhaps you should penalize the team who went occ sed tb because they choose a really stupid combo  Or perhaps penalize the team that picks qot / oak / occ for having 3 generals, or give an extra benefit to the team that goes rook / ub / reg because they don't have a general but then give the other team a benefit too because they took 2 tier 1 demigods.

 

Simplicity usually works best >.<

just saying oak ub reg/da  and LE oak reg/da are hardcore combos. And even UB rook reg/da are fatal once priests are out. I think our current  system is just fine and we can leave it by that. But, extra points could just add as an incentive to use so called "stupid" combos to get extra points maybe to add on my idea the winning team cannot have a tier 1 god in it to get the extra point. But you have to evaluate the combinations, which I haven't fully thought through yet.

 

also i think silence with freeze combined with occulus damage could be fatal
End of GM-Zen_God's quote

I was thinking we See

-UB mana Side + Oak or Le + Reg (reg is nice sniping on fleeing DGs with spit because UB can risk chasing past a tower to get more spit on for a guaranteed kill, or you are not contesting your lane at all)

-Oak Mana side + Le + Reg (For maximum gank +  portal abuse, and reg came along too to get assists and buy cit upgrades)

rook + oak is strong, but the gank potential is not there... and you really need to make sure you are available to TP in on rook when all 3 rush him. I don't see this being popular more then once, because it really is a technical game where you methodically grind your opponents down, and the players doing it will get bored if that is all they play.

That's not to say we might not see a UB/Sedna/Occ combo when a strong team plays a weak team, but when a tier 1 team plays a tier 1 team... be honest, what is the DG choice going to be? Probably one of the 2 I mentioned, because that is the only way to get kills against other pros.

Reply #353 Top

Quoting Iz_, reply 354
Im in, cant pay.

vote - > High towers
End of Iz_'s quote

Cool, Iz_.  Adding you. 

FYI - we currently have a total of 7 three man teams created.

There are currently a total of 14 players that have registered by not formed teams.  Make some teams fellas!

Reply #354 Top

2 games with demigod restrictions 

1 without 

3 games total. sounds good to me.

Reply #355 Top

I've been waiting for anyone else to mention it instead of just stating the obvious, but I'm for unrestricted choices on the 3rd game as well.  Since no one's answering it's probably easier to say who disagrees with being able to chose whatever DGs you want for the 3rd game?

Reply #356 Top

I would wager a lot of money you will not just see oak / beast / reg in every high lvl match.

Also, if you play 3 games no matter what, what if someone goes 3-0 then?  

Reply #357 Top

To be clear, when it is "unrestricted" this means you can have 3x Sedna? :)

Reply #358 Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 359
I would wager a lot of money you will not just see oak / beast / reg in every high lvl match.

Also, if you play 3 games no matter what, what if someone goes 3-0 then?  
End of 4Nana's quote

1) Please tell me what combo will win 2/3 games besides the 3 I mentioned?

2) 3 points to winner, 0 points to loser

Reply #359 Top

4nana please don't quote me out of context.
I said

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 346

just saying oak ub reg/da  and LE oak reg/da are hardcore combos. And even UB rook reg/da are fatal once priests are out. I think our current  system is just fine and we can leave it by that. But, extra points could just add as an incentive to use so called "stupid" combos to get extra points maybe to add on my idea the winning team cannot have a tier 1 god in it to get the extra point. But you have to evaluate the combinations, which I haven't fully thought through yet.
End of GM-Zen_God's quote


Also i'm not trying to restrict any combos, just throwing ideas out for an incentive to play non tier 1 demigods overall.

also you did say that occ tb sed is a stupid combo here:
Quoting 4Nana, reply 344
  Perhaps you should penalize the team who went occ sed tb because they choose a really stupid combo
 
End of 4Nana's quote

 

overall i'm just throwing ideas out there, because i understood jongalt's thread like this as first. I mean if you can get an extra point for free and want to risk it playing all non-tier 1 demigods, we might see some crazy combos.

I am also a fan of simplicity. So I do not care how the point system really looks as long it is fair.

 

Reply #360 Top

Quoting LORD-ORION, reply 361

Quoting 4Nana, reply 359I would wager a lot of money you will not just see oak / beast / reg in every high lvl match.

Also, if you play 3 games no matter what, what if someone goes 3-0 then?  
1) Please tell me what combo will win 2/3 games besides the 3 I mentioned?

2) 3 points to winner, 0 points to loser
End of LORD-ORION's quote

Soccermom's or pacov's firetb will definitely be used in high level games. Whatever I choose will be on a whim.

Reply #361 Top

Quoting Orcun-, reply 351

I still think we should play 2 games with tourney's dg restriction rules and one free for all dg selection game in order to have more variety but since no one has wrote anything about it besides pacov,  i suppose people aren't in favor of this.
End of Orcun-'s quote

I would like to see a 3rd game like that. That means i have to practice all them tier 1 demis again :D

Reply #362 Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 364

Quoting Orcun-, reply 351
I still think we should play 2 games with tourney's dg restriction rules and one free for all dg selection game in order to have more variety but since no one has wrote anything about it besides pacov,  i suppose people aren't in favor of this.

I would like to see a 3rd game like that. That means i have to practice all them tier 1 demis again
End of GM-Zen_God's quote

Bah, it would be more manly to play an all random or random assassin game as the final show down.

Reply #363 Top

So posting our team finally o.o

1. Iz_

2. Darz4

3. Darkliath

I also for high towers, but whatever ;D

Reply #364 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 365

Bah, it would be more manly to play an all random or random assassin game as the final show down.
End of OMG_ZEX's quote

that's so retarded, only a cow can come up with this! :moo:

Reply #365 Top

Quoting LORD-ORION, reply 361


1) Please tell me what combo will win 2/3 games besides the 3 I mentioned?
End of LORD-ORION's quote

qot / occ / oak

qot / occ / rook

qot / occ / beast

tb / oak / sedna

tb / oak / occ

tb / rook / occ

tb / beast / sed

 

All of those teams have potential to win 2/3 games against the 3 you mentioned.  I'm sure there are more, but I figured 7 was more than enough to prove a point so I stopped there.

Reply #366 Top

Quoting GM-McShane87, reply 348
Zen must have found a replay of me playing DA or Reg since that last comment on the system being fine. I'm coming for ya zen lol.
End of GM-McShane87's quote

how? when... you're already dead and bankrupt :andrew:

Reply #367 Top

QoT + Occulus+ XXX is a no-go. Mid game could be problematic, Occulus not quite in full swing and Queen starting to leave her prime. Once units come out, this team can certainly do well because of their phenomenal creep control. However, once portal wars start, they will be highly disadvantaged, having only 1 interupt (and, unless XXX is Oak, that interupt will be a cooldown of 12 seconds or more).

If your XXX is UB, sure, UB/QoT is very powerful (while QoT/Occ is weird but not unviable. Just. Very weird and lacking interupts). However, if you're playing against another UB, if their UB stays mana-side then he will level and curbstomp you. If your XXX is Rook, Queen can cower behind Rook and so she stays useful for much longer. If your XXX is Oak, you have the benefit of triple monk stacking. QoT + Occulus is rather expensive. Occulus is expensive as fuck, and, though QoT can certainly rely on her strong early game to carry her thru and allow her to purchase currency no problem, being 1800 gold behind for her is really going to hurt around level 10 or so. UB and Rook are poor candidates, choosing Oak makes his "weak stage" last longer.

Addressing other QoT combos,

QoT + Sedna + XXX is a no-go, not enough damage.

QoT + TB + XXX is a no-go, no tank. Fire TB might be able to play the role of a tank well enough but... :|

Reply #368 Top

1. Iz_

2. Darz4

3. Darkliath
End of quote

Great - glad to see you guys formed up.  Another fun team to play against.  I'll get you added to the op. 

To be clear, when it is "unrestricted" this means you can have 3x Sedna?
End of quote

Nope.  Poopy.

OK - trying to stay focused and get another question answered. 

Does anyone oppose our changing the format to a total of 3 games per team?  So, it won't be the best 2 out of 3.  You will always play each team 3 times. Game's one and 2 will have the restrictions for DG selection in place that we've discussed (see OP).  Game 3 will be unrestricted (just no double).  In addition, the winning team from each GAME will receive 1 point.  The losing team will receive nothing.  The winner of the tourney will be the team with the most points. I personally think this is the way we should handle this.  Unless there is quite a bit of opposition, I say we roll with this plan.  Objections?

As it seems like quite a few more people chimed in regarding high towers, I'm going to do a quick recount. 

 

Reply #369 Top

Votes for high towers

  • pacov
  • darz4
  • jongalt
  • pangea__2
  • Iz_
  • Darkliath

Votes for normal towers

  • McShane
  • bloodowl
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion
  • nom

The current count is 6 to 8.  Please vote asap. 

Reply #370 Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 11
Drop me a note, Stardock is willing to pony up to help fund tournaments.
End of Frogboy's quote

Says frogboy - King of Stardock in our tourney prize money thread.  So, it sounds like we might get a little sponsorship.  Yay!  I'll follow up with him.

oh - and jona__ chimed in and it sounds like he'll be participating in the tourney.  Adding him to the list.

Reply #371 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 370

If your XXX is UB, sure, UB/QoT is very powerful (while QoT/Occ is weird but not unviable. Just. Very weird and lacking interupts). However, if you're playing against another UB, if their UB stays mana-side then he will level and curbstomp you. If your XXX is Rook, Queen can cower behind Rook and so she stays useful for much longer.
End of awuffleablehedgie's quote

 

Ya it lacks interrupts, but your 3rd still has an interrupt.  Also, I disagree that qot leaves her prime.  She hits her prime @ 10 with gs IV and mulch II.  At 15 she hits another major bump and gains mulch III and goddess.

 

As for qot vs ub on mana flag, I also disagree that UB will outlvl and curbstomp qot.  I've outlvl'd ub's on mana flag and maintained control through the early game.  And unless they're bots, I've maintained control even after lvl 10.  I don't play the "here let me just shield you and stay in the background doing little else" build, which seems to be what you're describing with hiding behind a rook.

Reply #372 Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 365
Bah, it would be more manly to play an all random or random assassin game as the final show down.
End of OMG_ZEX's quote

I vote no.

Btw pacov I'm also in favor of high towers, not only because of minion oaks ^^

Reply #373 Top

As for qot vs ub on mana flag, I also disagree that UB will outlvl and curbstomp qot.  I've outlvl'd ub's on mana flag and maintained control through the early game.  And unless they're bots, I've maintained control even after lvl 10.  I don't play the "here let me just shield you and stay in the background doing little else" build, which seems to be what you're describing with hiding behind a rook.
End of quote

Not what I was saying. Assuming you buddy-up, your options are Occulus or UB. If you buddy with UB, then if the other UB stays on mana side, he'll level up and then curbstomp. Occulus/Queen is just a weird combination. It would certainly thrash certain matchups but I dunno how it would do against others.

The only thing I'm trying to get across is that Queen has poor synergy with the three other T2 possbilities (Occulus being the best, combat-wise but lacking an interrupt).

Reply #374 Top

Quoting awuffleablehedgie, reply 370
QoT + Occulus+ XXX is a no-go. Mid game could be problematic, Occulus not quite in full swing and Queen starting to leave her prime. Once units come out, this team can certainly do well because of their phenomenal creep control. However, once portal wars start, they will be highly disadvantaged, having only 1 interupt (and, unless XXX is Oak, that interupt will be a cooldown of 12 seconds or more).

If your XXX is UB, sure, UB/QoT is very powerful (while QoT/Occ is weird but not unviable. Just. Very weird and lacking interupts). However, if you're playing against another UB, if their UB stays mana-side then he will level and curbstomp you. If your XXX is Rook, Queen can cower behind Rook and so she stays useful for much longer. If your XXX is Oak, you have the benefit of triple monk stacking. QoT + Occulus is rather expensive. Occulus is expensive as fuck, and, though QoT can certainly rely on her strong early game to carry her thru and allow her to purchase currency no problem, being 1800 gold behind for her is really going to hurt around level 10 or so. UB and Rook are poor candidates, choosing Oak makes his "weak stage" last longer.

Addressing other QoT combos,

QoT + Sedna + XXX is a no-go, not enough damage.

QoT + TB + XXX is a no-go, no tank. Fire TB might be able to play the role of a tank well enough but...
End of awuffleablehedgie's quote

 

i'll show you different^^ keep talking about sedna, not my queen! *troll*

 

Anyway, no to high towers, yes to 3 games, 3rd game normal sure why not

Reply #375 Top

hmm maybe I can get ninki to take a break from school and teseer a break from eq and me a break from lotro