I agree with MI! Just because someone wrote a piece of 'bad' software damn well aint reason for killing them - stop this utter stupidity!

Isn't it? *puts on devil's advocate hat . . .*

How much time have these people taken up? I reckon it has to be at least an average of five minutes for each internet user. How many complete lives does that total? If they take our time, shouldn't we take theirs?

If you think you can lure me in a discussion you are wrong. I read hatred and nothing but hatred. No common sense at all.

BTW: I rather have you word your own opnion. Do not hide it by playing the devils advocate.

GR, we're not talking about time here, we're talking about someones lifes

I hate it, got about 60 e-mails in 12 hours, I am also getting a lot of 'work' mail, so its really a pain...

lets shoot them indeed. (3 times preferely )

Snowman: That's exactly what I am talking about. What is someone's life but the sum of their time on this earth?

If you take away people's time, you take away part of their life. I and others want it back. Failing that, I want to stop anyone else taking some of it. If that means taking one person's life to stop others doing the same thing, then maybe that's what it takes.

Madice: Truly? I don't hate it that much, but I do think that people should be really hurt for doing it. You seem to be so against killing people for it I thought "why not?".

Reaper: I have a tip for you. Don't become a programmer. In that profession you will be wasting people's time by making bugs. Sooner or later they want you to be shot. Sounds fair doesn't it?

Hey...here is a shot in the dark. For all of you that have such a problem with MS and all these rampant virii, why not change to linux?

I think Linux should take over as the predominant OS, should be taught as the prevalent programming platform in every junior college in the world. Then IT would be the virus platform of choice for every idle boy who has no social life.

Linux will never become the predominant platform. Why? Simple...it is not userfriendy enough for your average user and bored house-wife. Many require spoon-feeding and crayon colouring when it comes to using computers and the net. There will always be virii and security problems but as perviously stated ; if people took warnings seriously, paid for decent anti-virus programs and instead of whining about the problems this or that virus creates, educate themselves about them and thus at least attempt to cease further spreading.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Madice: Why did you think I'm always so careful about ease-of-use? If it's nice to use they don't mind even if it has a few oddities.

I like to look at motives as to why people do these things. If the virus creators created virii and worms to feed their starving families or to impress a babe, then I'd feel that although they did bad things, that they are not necessarily bad people. However, as we all know, no woman finds somebody who can make a virus cool, so there isn't any actual motive except the motive of destruction, just like with vandalism. Therefore, their actions are just pure evil.

Let me point out that the patch against the exploit used by the blaster worm was out WEEKS (about a month actually) before the worm hit. The sobig worm mostly relies on stupidity - people mindlessly clicking on attachments. by Wombat

Exactley I had all the patches for Blaster in Early July if not before...Ive even chewed my own mother out also for including me on chain emails...Wanna get a bug..Participate in chain mails and click pon the attachments....Those Jesus loves you email chains are big to attach a virus onto....I never fowARD any of that stuff either... And Blaming Microsoft is not the answer...No OS is Secure..This means all those Linux users also....Just linux users are4 generally smarter that is why they usally never get bugs in the first nplace...

This guy is so right on it scares me...

Linux will never become the predominant platform. Why? Simple...it is not userfriendy enough for your average user and bored house-wife. Many require spoon-feeding and crayon colouring when it comes to using computers and the net. There will always be virii and security problems but as perviously stated ; if people took warnings seriously, paid for decent anti-virus programs and instead of whining about the problems this or that virus creates, educate themselves about them and thus at least attempt to cease further spreading.

Just my 2 cents worth.




by Citizen BradNewell Thursday, September 04, 2003
You got a cookie from me bro!!!!

Microsoft OS, Linux, and Macs are just as vunerable. The reason no one is attacking Linux and Macs is because they can't hurt as many people. If you want to prove how great you are by attacking innocent people, are you going to attack Linux systems or Microsoft Systems? The shear numbers decide who is targeted. Look at the NY Trade Center as an example.

And I don't care how many security flaws you plug, someone will find a way. Personally, I think Microsoft is doing the best job possible under the circumstances.

And I don't care how many security flaws you plug, someone will find a way. Personally, I think Microsoft is doing the best job possible under the circumstances.



Hear Hear!!!!

well ive read through a lot of these comments microsoft knew about the hole which allowed the blaster to run rampant all its top level clients had the hole blocked mothhs before this worm came along home users are the ones hurt the worst by it. but on the same note theres a white paper on there site about how to secure a network from top to bottom remember the internet is just a network nothing more control the ports to your machine worms dont happen simple if you dont know how to do this run the updates run a fierewall these things a simple to do a little time towards IP security goes a long way i havent had a worm or virus in 6 years

I simply would like to say viruses were first though of annoying the heck out of your neighbor or friend. these days you have viruses that aren't so friendly. in my opinion we should get them to work not to death.

Would you buy a car if the dealer told you that the manufacturer had sorted out most of the mechanical problems....but that you could return it to the dealer for weekly updates and that he had not secured the keys so others might have access to your vehicle? Micro$oft is not a "victim".

You know, I was searching around a little today..I found that people who use things Like mIRC and other IRC type file sharing networks..To use them you have to lose your firewall, if you dont open up ports and shut your firewall off, you cant download from someone..HHmmmm..Seems to me someone was helping out the Anti PiraTE crew by developing this worm...or that worm..See if you have to turn your firewall off to Download it leaves your butt wide open for a virus....Kinda like unprotected sex.....So I wonder also how many of those people that are currently getting knocked offline are software rippers..??? Makes ya think Hmmmm...Am I wrong cuz I dont use mIRC or anytype of stuff like that...So I had to go by what my school chum told me and then showed me......He said he can monitor the port during the DL..But what if you walk away for a minute or 2..

Drop125....that is a VERY interesting thought.Glad I PAY for my music and software.

Well the goverment and a few universities and businesses are working on the Internet2. Its suppossed to be super fast and more secure.

Just having an open port does nothing. It's having an open port *and* having something on your side listening that's insecure that's the problem. mIRC doesn't even listen unless it knows there's a file coming in, AFAIK, so it's fine to open the necessary ports. You don't have to open all ports, just the ones it's using.