Foul Grasp and Stun Immunity

It does make UB a popular choice and also give an advantage to the Dark side because three of there demigods have a stun that can be combined with fowl grasp (UB/LE/TB )  but that is only  a problem for pantheon and will be worse when they get team joins. Seeing it is a stun it probably should be affected by stun imunity and provide it.

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i have to agree but i found a worse combo ere ub and rook

rook hammers  you while stunned man that fucking hurts

Is this something that happens with all the other stuns?

si1foo, you can do that with one stun and some good positioning from a rook, but yeah, under the current system you can grasp someone, then boulder roll them to get close enough to hammer slam, you have ~4 seconds to complete the move rather than 2.

And you can open with a charm, grasp, and by the time grasp finishes the stun immunity is gone so you can roll. Not terribly counterable except for perhaps interrupting the charm.

I've never heard of "Stun Immunity" unless you mean that you can't stun somebody with your stun while they are already stunned.

To see it in action, get a friend to play erebus, and play torchie. If they use mass charm, for a short period AFTER the stun has stopped, if you use ice nova to stun, instead of your opponent being turned to ice a "STUN IMMUNITY" will flash up next to them and they will be completely unaffected.

It happens with all other stuns as far as I know: Boulder Roll, Mass Charm, Ice Nova all do it I think. I've only seen it happen with the Erebus/Torchie combo, and it drove me insane at the time, but I can see why it's in the game, being stunlocked isn't fun.

After a first stun, every Demigod gains Stun Immunity for 5 seconds, which makes your Demigod unable to be stunned again for that 5 seconds. This is to prevent chain stunning where the victim Demigod can do nothing to defend itself.

Ah. I've never actually noticed this before, though I generally play UB so chainstunning seems to be possible for me.

there is stun imunity but i have only seen it when im tb and aother dude on my team is and we both do a stun

and killing with foul grasp makes your dude stay in the posistion lonh after the oponent is dead

I find it funny how the opponent in fact has his walk animation as part of his stun immunity when you grasp him after Charm,

but it holds him in place anyway^^ must be the way grasp is coded

i love it too much to say it should get fixed

Hm... what is supposed to give you Stun Immunity?

stun immunity is suppost to stop people from double-triple stunning  one after the other

Yeah, but is it really a stun? It's a grapple, and the UB is just as immobile as you are when he does it.

If as rookl you use boulder roll, then your ally rook uses it straight after, you see "immune" come up and the enemy is not stunned. This is to prevent stun locking.

Foul grasp does not work in this way, so if you are against 2xUB, its spit, spit, stun, stun, spit, spit - good luck surviving that.

yup and that would take about 5 seconds  with over 7000 dmg  not counting auto attacks

hmm it could be defined as a grapple  actually  because the other stuns  are either it takes a while then casts like erebuses  or it is a instant cast andthen they stayed stun for so long

i think grapple suits it well  in a 1v1/ 2v2 ub is virtually unstopable

Well it is the only stun in the game where you are as immobile as your opponent for the duration of the stun. It's useless as a stun unless your teammate is there to take advantage of it. Most people only get foul grasp for the interrupt and don't even upgrade it.

Personally, I think it's working as intended.

Dont touch UB . It's absolutely balanced

It is intended that Foul Grasp doesn't trigger stun immunity, so it's not a bug. Whether you agree or disagree is another matter, though.

Stun immunity lasts for double of the time of the stun applied. Use a 2-second stun, and you get 4 seconds of stun immunity. At least, it's supposed to work that way according to one of Frogboy's posts a while back.

JagerJack you're talking about low standard games where people aren't supporting each other. There is no issue with grasp in a game where nobody is coordinating, but in a game where everyone is on voice you will find yourself getting stunned for 4-5 seconds straight and demolished before you can move again. The presence of stun immunity mechanics on all other stuns would suggest this is not intended behavior.

I would also argue that none of the other stuns are particularly useful in 1v1 either, except as an escape tool. Roll/Slam is difficult, Charm doesn't combine with any other skills, TB uses it mainly to get the shatter combo. The only time I use stuns is when someone is within my tower range, or when there's a teammate that can use it to start shredding someone, otherwise it's not worth the mana.

The difference with foul grasp is that it can be interrupted even after it takes hold.  Minor difference, but one all the same.  And in the 2 UB scenario, I would recommend not fighting two UBs solo anyway.

Foul Grasp isn't a stun, it's more like a shackle.  You can't do anything but neither can the beast who's grasping you, for the duration.

That's why it's not exactly the same as the other castable stuns.

infin that is why there is spit 

u spit u grasp u spit again   hit a few times maybe spit again u have won