Regarding Potions

from Demigod Forums

Change how they work, or raise the cooldown and limit the number you can carry.

This game is about pushing, defending, and applying pressure.  Your goal is to try to push your creep waves past theirs, and pressure opponents into defending their towers and getting them out of their lane so you can destroy their towers.  You do this either by killing them, or weakening them to the point where they have to go back to heal. 

As it stands, it's too easy (especially early on in the game where such things really make the biggest difference) to stay in your lane even after an opponent has applied strong pressure, simply because you can heal yourself up to 3 times to full health with healing potions (which you can afford easily with the gold you start out with).  This discourages early pressure because the ability to heal far outweighs the ability of characters to deal damage at early levels. 

 

It's also something of an issue late game, in my opinion.  Potions can be cast in battle (cast bar doesn't get interrupted) and heal players back up to full health (or almost full health).  Yes, there is a cooldown on them, but it's still pretty lame if you work hard to get somebody to low health and then they just pop a potion and get back to full health in a second.

 

In light of this, one of two things ought to be done:

1) Make them heal over time instead of direct heal.  Also, make their "cast bar" interruptable.  This ensures that they must be used out of combat to be effective.

OR

2) Raise the cooldown, limit the player to 1-2 potions of each type per slot, and make them instant.  This way they can be used as a quick "Oh Shit!" item to save you in a tight spot.  But once you use it, you can't use a potion again for a couple minutes.  This way if you're under a lot of pressure using a potion once won't stop you from being pushed back.  You have to pressure back, because you'll quickly lose health again and you won't have any more potions to pop once you do.

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

Potions can be interrupted. That's one of the most important dynamics in Demigod combat. You need to anticipate enemy item use and have a response ready, either in the form of a finishing burst damage, a stun, or a simple interrupt. Or taking the chance to chug a potion yourself.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

Still not all have a handy interupt. I think a dota style potion would be neat. Heal over 6 sec or something and interupted by dmg.

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

If they can be interrupted, they are too difficult to interrupt, because I've had little to no trouble using them in battle.

 

My points still stand.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

It still takes time to apply the potion.  You also can't use potion when getting hit from all sides.

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

The cast time for the potion is not very long.  Besides, even with a longer cast time they would still probably produce the same issues with the early game.

 

Potions should either be life-savers that you can only use every so often, or they should be first aid kits for when you get beaten up and bruised, but only usable outside of battle.  They should still probably have a decent cooldown, so somebody can't repeatedly bring themselves up to full life after being heavily pressured by a more aggressive player without leaving their lane.

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

I think instead of Pots the natural mana and health regenerations should just be upped. Health and mana potions are so cheap and effective, buying +regen items is simply not as effective. Why suffer this problem AND waste time going back to the item shop, when instead you could just have a higher health and mana regeneration.