LOL @ the OP, and I suppose stardock should have just given us the whole game for free as well. And I dont think it is valid to say the original sins release was incomplete, even the OP says he has been playing it that it is "Great", so you got you enjoyment out of it so dont complain.

It's nothing to do with fanboyism. The OP stated right in his first post that he thought the game was great. Again, how does that suddenly change when Stardock decides to add content in an expansion?

If he'd originally said the game was unfinished due to the lack of content that Stardock is now adding, then he'd have a point. As it stands, he doesn't.

ok you have a great game for $30 no one can dissagre with that. you then have imporvements to all aspects of the game (3 expantions all together) for $30 again and who is to say they didnt think of these things after the origal release and only had enough to go in the full size expantion with that content as well. you then have a whole new expansion for $30 (assume this is what they are going to market it as) which will give people a campaign who want it and add loads more probs going to add bout as much as the micro expantions together. so now you have paid $90 which is $10 less than maximum milkage which was showen earlier. and you have the equivilent of one great game and 2 full size expantions.

if it is your view that it was imcompleat when first released that is fine but alot of people view it as a bargin.

i belive its dont feed the trolls

and thats you $90 which i think most people will be willing to part with.

and where is the OP reply to all this debate eh eh

It's releasing in like 2 and a half weeks, that not soon enough [e digicons]XD[/e]

The lack of campaign was a design descision. One will likely be added eventually simply due to the high demand.

The value for SoaSE is better than most games, I think OP just got confused about the 3 pieces comming and not even thought strait. The expasions might has well have great value just for comming in 3 parts, because each can be more relevant or maybe not.

Some games don't even have any replayability and costs more than SoaSE

Anyway the value for the game is good, but complainers are bound to come. The first version of the game did lacked polishing, but the price was low, the game still fun nonetheless, and a huge mass accepted it and gave good rating.

Now is these expansions turn out really good, it will be an amazing package. I just hope they worth their price.

And Spore 1st expansion pack that add parts to the creatures costs 20$.

Since the game has been released, how many free patches have been released.  I believe over a gig's worth of content has already been made available and all free of charge.

These expansions are a result of what most can assume is Ironclad sitting down trying to think of ways to make the game better.  There is no conspiracy here guys...

Pardon me but... hogwash. There are three microexpansions planned at 10 bucks each. And they've stated they're planning on releasing them all as one single pack next summer. Want to take a guess what the cost of that will be?

As for bragging about left out content, you got a link? I highly doubt there was bragging going on. Sure, they may have left out aspects they'd have liked to put in, but I challenge you to find many games where that isn't the case. It by no means indicates the product was unfinished. It simply means some features that they'd have liked to have added had to be dropped.

And you car analogy isn't even close. The 'car' you bought ran as advertised (with a little free maintenance, i.e. patches thrown in to tune it up), while they're releasing and charging for some extras.

Well then, my advice for you is to NOT buy the expansions and simply play the original game. The original game is fully fuctional (except for multiplayer during release) and with the latest patch it will be as polished as it will ever be. If you want the developers to cover 'Everything' then this game would be released in maybe 5+ years time, cost maybe 100+ US dollars and cause the company to collapse as no one wants to fork out that much money for a 'Complete' game.

The expansions are expansions, they add on EXTRAs, so its not a life and death matter if you want to buy them or not. Look at all the other RTS around, Brood War, Frozen Throne, Forged Alliance, Opposing Fronts and so forth, why did These developers not release their original games 1-2 years late with the expansions in them? and cost maybe 60-90 US dollars. Because its simply not viable and people will not fork out that much money just for a 'Uber' game. People prefer 'tasters' and like expansions to build up from the previous game.

Games are 'luxuries' you don't need to buy em if you don't need em and in this case, who is forcing you to buy the expansions as stated in your post? You don't need em to enjoy Sins. Oh and if you want a 'Solid' expansion, buy all three expansions at once then when they are all finally released...................for the same price as buying them seperately [e digicons]O:)[/e]

P.S. If you want a Car analogy, you got a perfectly fine car with Sins and the 3 expansions are simply adding a More powerful engine, NOS and better wheels. (You don't get em for free either in the real world........)

I thought I heard a long time ago it wasn't added due to time and budget constraints. Though what I just said is going off of ancient memories so take it with a grain of salt, because I could be misremembering it.

well, considering that there was very likely a distinct desire to tell the story, some concept of a campaign must have existed in the devs minds, bc otherwise I would not understand why they give us a background and intro at all, if they never planned to build on it.

nevertheless, while I would like a campaign, I do not necessarily feel the game incomplete as it was released. it has a lot of fun and many hours of gameplay and mp can be one of the best experiences to have, if you are willing to go for it. and just bc there is a way to improve something does not mean that the original status was bad.

in a way though, the op does have a point, not necessarily for sins, but in the way that it does happen that companies deliberately leave one or two small aspects out or make sure there are enough points to work on for an expansion pack, while the product is still under development. this can of course be a good thing also, if you deliver a base product, maybe at a slightly lower price and then offer several smaller packs with vastly different foci and the customer can pack just those that he likes instead of a whole big pack that might include features that are uninteresting to some.

" I remember reading how a dev bragged that they had "left out" some parts to the game so they could focus on a single aspect. "

Is that so? You mind linking this one up for me?