Reply #26 September 1, 2004 10:56 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

took extra meds today; sharp pain started in shower this morning and the whole stiff and painfull thing seemed to get worse. So, I took 300 mg in mid morning. It took awhile, had lots of discomfort getting up and down on the floor. seemed to get a bit better but then had a couple of spasms in shoulder, that's owee 2&3. 12 hour intervals don't work, I'm going on a 3x8 but this is all still just taking the edge of the pain, it just never ends. started aching again about 430, so I dosed shortly after and then again shortly after 10Pp (I'd usually do the pm dose later, but the needling pain was coming back and seemed to be spreadin over the top of the joint.) Unfourtunatly, except for a mild strech, I can't do much about it.

Reply #27 September 2, 2004 5:52 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

hurts worse this am. I not planning on doing much with it today.

Reply #28 September 2, 2004 9:54 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Tried to do a little less today, to take a break. took med in am, Woke up with a yawn and put shoulder in some bad position. Every thing in arm and shoulder sore, and starting to tense at that time in addition to the pain that never really goes away. but calmed down. Some strain pain loading stuff. started getting sore from elbow up around four, so I took meds around 4:45. Hurts a fair amt. now 930P, so It wont be long for my evening dose.

Reply #29 September 3, 2004 6:48 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

Meds definitly wore off during the night. Caught myself before yawning. not as big of a needle feeling in the joint as a couple of days ago. And less "over the top" of the shoulder socket, but still feel in the back of my knee and half way down my lower leg. The leg thing has cause some favoritism I noticed, and slight limping yesterday. gotta go

Reply #30 September 4, 2004 9:50 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

This should have been last nights entry for friday day, but too tired. arm still hurts, no big surprise. just a couple of owees, moving things around. took meds in am, and was getting pains in shoulder in afternoon. took evening meds early to fight it off.

Reply #31 September 4, 2004 2:22 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

The pain just won't go away. Would you like an invitation to my pain, I don't think so.

Reply #32 September 4, 2004 10:45 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

all pain, sll day. mostly doing some house maint. and catching up on contacts. Didn't even take the trash out or do dishes, which need done. did midday meds to try and keep going, but sent me to midday nap. woke up, with an "uninvited guest" social invitation in so much discomfort and so far behind in my other objectives that I had to decline. I'm sure this may seem to some as obtuse to some, but no invite means no RSvP required. still hurts after pm meds.

Reply #33 September 5, 2004 1:44 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

am, woke up with pain in shoulder and behind knee. most exertertion of late was takng my trash out the door. made a move while cooking earlier and that a owee pain. meds do take the edge off, with maintenence, be seem to be less effective than desired. repr\eating note; employer requests consideration of x-rays or other diagnostic tools to resolve diagnosis, per conversation with HR/mgt.; some point of determination desired by all parties in order to move forward (from my prespective). Personally not suprised that a recovery involving connecting tissue would take a long time, but given that the current treatment and remediation has yielded unsatisfactory results and performance detriments wrt enployer expectations - this detriment needs to be addressed. Also, this pain feels different than other minor muscular/skeltal injuries i have had in past, the burning and needleing pain are much more pervasive in the area and are obviously mor pervasive
Mabye different meds (pain management suggested by manager), or PT approach. (note: HR strongly resistant to alternative therapy such as chiropractic. I personally see no meriit in this position when applicable to needs).
Request to HR that whatever tests, proceedures, etc. are desired on next medical visit, be forwarded to both the physicans office and myself poste haste.

Reply #34 September 6, 2004 12:16 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

pain waking up in the am. Back to my prescribed routine, did not take meds during day yesterday, had pain all day as has have all day today. noon now, and have those needles in the back of my shoulder, and have had pain in back left of knee in leg.

Reply #35 September 6, 2004 9:20 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

David, You know very well that it was my and Tom's idea to explore alternative therapies and I don't appreciate you "documenting" otherwise. What are you thinking?

Reply #36 September 7, 2004 10:50 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

started off in the am with tightness and some of the obnoxious joint pain. evened out though. Mostly some muscle ache and the tightness seeming to spread to my neck. towards evening, the muscles got tight again, but could be worse. think the hardcore pain from moving heavy things may be waning, but careful to favor my right to keep it from getting so bad again. It a catch22 to take med to do work to hurt more to be in worse shape and to possible extend recovery time. need to do things with good balanced form, which is almost impossible. late pm now and not too bad but still never ending discomfort.

Reply #37 September 8, 2004 10:47 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Waking up yawns, that hurt. most of day not too bad, just the same old dull ache. seems like the over arching tightness subsided some and felt more in specific muscle groups. later in day got tighter and more sore. got a sharp pain in shoulder trying to move some stock at the end of the day, which was about as good a timing that could be. Took a nap later, that helped a bit; Been sleeping with my hand in my waistband which keeps me from putting arm up in bad position. kinda sore now, with a bit of something in my shoulder socket.

Reply #38 September 9, 2004 10:06 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

About the same today, arm got tired and sorer later in day. Had a few sharp pains, just putting it in a bad position, and putting air in my car tires. A little worse as evening wears on. Next post the questions and talking points brought up by HR, etc.

Reply #39 September 11, 2004 4:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

mm, No additions. sumarizing previous discussions; Consider orthopedic diagnosis, xrays, additional pain management as suggested by management.
Friday's notes; not too bad with meds. did some massage while driving.
Notes from 9-10 doctors visit. Dr Carnes acknoleges that healing is slow wrt epectations, and refered me to an orthopedic doctor who he recommends for shoulder and other joint injuries. Appointment is set for monday, and xray are indicated. Dr. Carnes increased my medication dosage. I noted to Dr. Carnes that the nightime meds give me a sluggish effect upon waking, which he said ususally subsides with time. He did not seem to think a stronger medication was called for. As stated before, I prefer less. Woke up this morning with pain, and suspect I put the arm in a bad position during sleep. Got a real nasty shoulder socket pain while trying to strech - I don't even think it was that bad a month ago during physical therapy-which makes me think I may have reinjured the connecting tissue with heavy lifting at work, or at least kept it from healing swiftly.

Reply #40 September 12, 2004 7:28 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

yesterday, shopping, some discomfort with bag. multiple trip to keep the load light. still dull pain throughout, but only one one stinging pain in shoulder. More housework, fatigue, pacing myself so not too bad.

Reply #41 September 12, 2004 7:33 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Sunday, am-more sluggishness from meds. more housework (way behind, not up to it after work) cramped out in mid afternoon and massaged some and took a nap. woke up and stretched some untill pain. it when down some- dishes and started to hurt again. more later.

Reply #42 September 13, 2004 5:07 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

9/12pm Just tired and sore, had a pain in shoulder joint driving. took my med and went to sleep.

Reply #43 September 13, 2004 10:54 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

sunday fu, more housework - stress and fatigue, but no real shooting pains.
Mon. woke up with tighness which was aching in am; loosened up with manipulation on ride to orthopedist. more on that in next entry.

Reply #44 September 14, 2004 6:04 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

9\13 the dr visit ok, no noteable 'dislocacion' or observation in xray of damage, pain noted and to be evaluated. doctors office advise to keep in range of motion, go back to pt, ice down after physical effort, stretch and manipulate with some pain, don't work with pain -'just say no'. recommends pool/aquatic exercise - not available at HOPT, so considering visits to REX, discussed different range of motion techniques - similar but differs from what pt had earlier advised, have follow up in six weeks.

9/13pm notes; sore from stretching and driving, but better than two weeks ago. I notice the stretching soreness is less than that of phyisical, mass moving, labour. It doesn't feel like my arm being pulled out of the shoulder socket, and while there are occasional sharp pains depending on the position- they are less intense.

Reply #45 September 15, 2004 5:26 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

Entry for yesterday, 9/15/04 : started off pretty well, got worse during the day. Felt like too much pain to move some heavy boxes, so I didn't - like the nurse at Dr. Espisito's office and Nancy Reagan said. No phones at the store, so I'm behind making appointment for pt. need to do that tommorrow.

Reply #46 September 15, 2004 5:29 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

Woke up pretty tight, and I stretched. I want to thank RF for the conversation and chat message. ore for 9\15 in pm

Reply #47 September 18, 2004 7:32 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

These entries are combined as I was out of town on work, and internet access was not available

9/15 -easy day, mostly driving to worksite (lots of rain). A little bit of pain loading.
I stopped to get some personal care items on the way, and picked up a small set of wheels to make the job and unloading easier - also figure I would want a set for shopping at the bulk food store. Before leaving I tried to get some numbers and make a pt appt, There was no Raleigh phone book at the store:( - I get to the motel, and I can't make an 866 call from the room (it's a new phone sytem, so even after asking for the phone to be turned on, it didn't work.) I stretched when I could while driving, and at breaks.

9/16 - worked a long day. the luggage cart was very helpful. Some strain, but avoided heavy lifting. Had to do some overhead work, but no real weight involved, got a few pains during the process though. waited for meds to wear off befor any ladder work. Started to get overly sore in afternoon; But, I started early, and skipped lunch, so I bagged the actuall work at 530, did some paperwork and prep for friday. Took a nap and went to dinner.

9/17 - woke up and finnished site work early 7-8, a bit sore from yesterday. Had a quick meet with Dorin - and with sandra and her maintenence man.
took a med in mid morning to keep the everything in check. Rest of drive uneventful; Some decent weather, some bad, and some stretching.

9/18 - woke up with soreness, a little worse than earlier in week. Has some spasms in the back left. I should get that anatomy book Dr Adams gifted and get the proper reference.

Reply #48 September 20, 2004 8:27 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Woke up this morning with issues, I think I might have been in a bad position, but at least it wasn't a sharp stinging pain.
most of day just a dullish pain, except for stretching. Got some fatige reaching around some equipment to hook up coax connectors. a bit sore now 930p - worse in the shoulder socket than earlier. tension spread to neck, but noticed this tightness earlier in day. Earlier seemed more concentrated in muscles, now seems to be both. Took 600mg of med.s about an hour ago, and will probably take more later.

Reply #49 September 20, 2004 9:39 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

What are you thinking?

Specifically, some comments made to me regarding chiropractic treatment and practicioners - as referenced specifically in a previous post. You can note the singular and specific reference. Perhaps I misunderstood. Please clarify.
It has been suggested by an associate that chiropractic might be helpful. As learned conversationally, It would appear that the majority of associates have had benefitial results from chiropractic treatments. I appreciate the meaningful addition of complementary treatments and therapies (immune booster, vitamins and other precursures) and IMHO it is not wise to discount mechanics and the relationship and interrelationship with other functions to promote healing. There are multiple references to helpful alternative actions by the actors noted, and thus it is not useful to either defend against or promote the position of an ad hominem or provicial argument.

Reply #50 September 20, 2004 10:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Notes from conversation with Vicky H. at Hands On Physical Therapy - Building new facility in cary with pool, but not in services now. Determined that Rex is an option, and that Dunn/Erwin hospital has revamped PT and may have facilities. Other option in N. Raleigh noted. Vicky said she would consult with practicioners for other options and get back to me if anything helpful. Regret canceling appt. at Rex - shouldn't be an issue, and indications by HR that facility might be deemed inappropriate now seem unfounded.