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Kerry CONDEMNS Moveon.org Anti-Bush Ad

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Kerry CONDEMNS Moveon.org Anti-Bush Ad

Obviously Some Kinda Sneaky Trick Huh?

from JoeUser Forums

from the la times, august 18, 2004.  article entitled " Kerry Condemns Anti-Bush Ad"

Sen. John F. Kerry took a cue from Sen. John McCain on Tuesday and denounced a television ad by one of his allies attacking President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard.

In the latest twist in an ongoing debate about military credentials, Kerry condemned the new ad by the MoveOn political action committee, even though it was produced in response to an ad questioning Kerry's Vietnam War record.

"This should be a campaign of issues, not insults," Kerry said in a written statement.

Kerry called the ad "inappropriate" after McCain (R-Ariz.), a former Vietnam prisoner of war, criticized the MoveOn commercial. The 30-second ad accuses Bush of using family connections to avoid the Vietnam War.

McCain, who is popular with independents, is campaigning for Bush but has come to Kerry's defense against Republican attacks on the candidate's military record. He recently criticized an anti-Kerry ad that featured Vietnam veterans as "dishonest" and "dishonorable."

Although MoveOn, an independent liberal group, came to Kerry's aid with a counterattack ad, the Democrat said he agreed with McCain that it was over the top.

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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top

I've already done two blogs on it. No need for another. You guys seem to have no problem with posting third, fourth, and fifth-hand anti-Bush propaganda, but I suppose I am just lying


i remember seeing the first of your two articles about wilson now.  i dont remember the 2nd. sorry i didnt make the connection immediately .  


 i dont know to whom or what youre referring with the 'you guys' thing.   i make a considerable effort to validate anything i post that isnt published by reputable news source  (ap, reuters, major mainstream newspapers, cnn, abc, nbc, cbs national bureaus) and even then i try to find a confirming independent source.  ive never even suggested you were lying.  


im not sure how the wilson page relates to the issue here because it was clearly sponsored by kerry and so identified.   youre not suggesting that kerry told wilson what to say or suborned false testimony?  otherwise its all out in the open.


 as far as berger and wilson go--even looking at them in the worst possible light--they're lightweights compared to elliot abrams and john poindexter.

Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top

kerry and mccain have had no problem in condemning both the swiftboatvets tripe and the moveon.org tripe, calling both dishonorable' not because both are attack ads but because by smearing any veteran's service, they cheapen the service of every veteran.


Is that why Kerry doesn't condemn the negativity his own campaign shows toward Bush?


I think you are reading what you want to read here. MoveOn.org is a seperate poitical entity. If you do your homework you will find that they do NOT have the same political agenda. They share the same goal as John Kerry...To get Bush 2.0 out of office. They are definately connected by this issue.Soros has his agenda too but he believes that its worth his time to put his money into the campaign. He does not have a history of giving Kerry a lot of money, until now that is. Whereas the Swift boat guy has had Bush in his pocket for the last 10 years. If it wasn't for him Bush 2.0 wouldn't have got in the Governor's office.

Where were the Swift Boat guys before the primaries ended? MoveOn.org was around. Soros was around. Those guys showed up out of the blue. By their statements, John Kerry didn't do anything except make it all up. You actually think that if it wasn't true, any of this would get past Admiral Zumwalt? who is quite possibly one of the greatest and smartest naval leaders ever in the Navy's history, and came down to personally pin the medals on Kerrys chest? I think not. It's just another example of how desperate the repubs are to keep 2.0 in office, And how afraid they are of John Kerry.


So, one of the Swift Boat veterans have supported Bush in the past. Nobody from MoveOn.org has any history with Kerry, is associated with him, and doesn't help fund his campaign for presidency?

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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are you suggesting Bush told swiftboat vets "what to say or suborned false testimony"?

No, you are accusing Bush of rendering aid to someone that you believe is lying about Kerry. Kerry was a big supporter of J. WIlson, who was PROVEN to be lying. The main difference is the connection between Bush and swiftboat vets is murky at best, whereas Wilson was an ADVISER to Kerry and Kerry for President hosted his site.

I'm not seeing the confusion. Wilson tried to smear Bush, accused him of lying, was found to by lying himself, and was actively supported by Kerry's campaign. Isn't that what you are accusing Bush of?