It's official - they finally got to me.

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The battle with my neighbors finally got to me last night.  I spent the evening in tears because of what happened yesterday afternoon.

I was walking back from my friends house with me youngest son, and saw my neighbor (Stupid Girl) and her friends (The Black Elk Bitches) sitting across the street in someone's front yard.  As I was walking up my driveway, Stupid Girl stands up, points and me, and yells "Look at her.  She's such a stupid fucking bitch.  She fucking called to complain about a alarm clock going off.  how fucking pathetic.  What fucking bitch"  Then they (the entire group) all started laughing and clapping.  My son said "are they talking about you, mom?".  I said I didn't know, but that we should probably just ignore them and keep on walking...I didn't want to tell him that they were, that would just have upset him.  So, we came inside, and I went down to my bedroom and cried.

My tears were mainly out of frustration.  I wanted so badly to go over there and confront her when she yelled like that - but that would have been a mistake.  If she's immature enough to resort to name calling in front of her cronies ...then my asking her what the hell her problem is wouldn't have done any good at all.  I'm not going to get into a screaming match in the street, unlike her I have more self respect than that.  I had to let her get her dig in, and I had to just walk away.

You know, I don't know what else I was supposed to deal with the alarm clock situation (for those of you who don't know, these people went away for a few days and left their alarm clock set for 3am.  It's positioned directly against the dividing wall of our bedrooms, and it woke me up 2 nights in a row before I complained.  It started at 3, and went until 0530-ish before it turned itself off)  All I did was call DB's supervisor to see if anyone could go in and turn it off.  That's what she cussed at me for.

I'm not letting that behaviour go unmentioned though.  I have 'Dumb Boy' (her husband)'s duty phone number.  I know who his supervisor is.  I'm calling him on Monday morning to tell him about this.  I don't deserve to be treated like that, no-one does. 

I'm reminding myself that I only have to live here for 4 more days, then I can move on...but I pity the people that move in after me. 

They don't know what they're getting into.

P.S....this isn't the right thing to do, but....we're staying in Billeting on Wednesday night.  I think I might just 'forget' our clock radio.  I also think that I might set it for 2 am and place it right up against the bedroom wall, turned up to full volume.  I think I might see how they like a taste of their own medicine....

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

P.S....this isn't the right thing to do, but....we're staying in Billeting on Wednesday night.  I think I might just 'forget' our clock radio.  I also think that I might set it for 2 am and place it right up against the bedroom wall, turned up to full volume.  I think I might see how they like a taste of their own medicine....

I know you really WANT to do that right now, and that it would give you some satisfaction in the short term...but in the long run, it's better to just let it go, and let all their stupidity come back around to bite them in the butt in its own time. Just get out of there and hope you get better neighbors at the new base! 

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Dharma, I think you have let your stress get to you.  Just release it.  Sit down and clear your mind so that you can look at this right.  They aren't worth your energy.  They are your past.  You need to just move on and forget their petty little existence.  Any more energy put in to this is just a waste.  They are probably too stupid to even realize that you did that with your radio on purpose.

Collect your thoughts.  Forget them.  Concentrate on the new and improved life you are about to start.

Hope the trip goes well!

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

You know, you're both right.  My doing that is just going to be sinking to their level...not to mention the karmic consequences.  I really don't need to create any bad karma for myself right now...

Karma, you're right.  Yesterday was not a terribly great day for me, and that little incident was just the icing on the cake.  We only have to live here for 4 more days, then we're moving on...and I can forget all about them, their 'gang' and their silly shenanigens.

We're going to a new base, getting a new house in a new neighborhood, Dave's going to be a new rank...it's a 'new' start for us.

 

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

Man alive, they sound like they never advanced passed Jr High bully status.  Just feel sorry for them.  They have limited their lives to sad pranks and stupid jabs.  Their time is coming.  Find peace in that thought.


I am sure you and Dave have nothing but good things in the future to come.


Best wishes.

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Dharma,

I agree, you should contact her husband's supervisor. I don't know how it works in the military, but in most of the civilian world, there are repercussions for retaliating against someone for filing a legitimate complaint. Sure, you'll be gone, but you'll make it easier for the next neighbor when they have to report these assholes.

As for the alarm clock thing, good in theory, but I know you're above that. You'll be outta here shortly, and probably never see these morons again.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

they sound like they never advanced passed Jr High bully status.

I think that they watched 'mean girls' and decided to model themselves after the characters in that.  You're absolutely right, they're nothing more than bullies.

On a side note, the morons that used to live on the other side of me (remember them) have succeeded in pissing off their new neighbors (they moved to a different area of housing) after less than 2 weeks of living there.  The houses they're living in are brand new, and didn't have grass in the yards...so a couple of people bought (out of their own pockets) sod and laid that down instead of using the grass seed the government supplied.  The moron that used to be my neighbor lives next to one such person...and has been riding his 4 wheeler all over their newly sod-ed lawn, tearing it up and sending big divots of turf flying everywhere.  Needless to say, he's not the most popular person in the neighborhood. 

Just another example of them doing what they want, when they want, and not giving a rat's behind about anyone or anything else. 

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

I don't know how it works in the military, but in most of the civilian world, there are repercussions for retaliating against someone for filing a legitimate complaint

Because she's not active duty, military law doesn't apply to her.  She's subject to the same rules as the rest of the civilian world. 

I don't think that I'm going to talk to his supervisor, I think that I'm going to call his First Sergeant instead.  I only called his supervisor to see if he had access to the house...I wasn't even complaining at the time.  Now, however, I am, and the 1st Sgt is the appropriate person to complain to.  What she did was intimidation, and I don't think that I should have to deal with it.  Nor, as you said, should the next person that lives here. 

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I feel for you sweety. From what I know of you you definitely do not deserve the treatment you got...but do as I would do.... just look at where it is coming from. They are obviously complete morons. You are way above them in every way. Just ignore them and don't get stressed out...they are not worth it.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Let it go, you'll be gone soon and there's no point in stressing out and getting angry over this. I've had my share of annoying roommates over the years so I can somewhat relate to your situation, but in the end, getting back at them made no sense in the long run. Look forward to the new start and leave this shithole behind you.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am trying to be of help, dharma. I have solicited the help of none other than Fred Harteis. If anyone can help, he can (lol).
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, no.....the alarm clock is good. And before you move don't forget to file a change of address... in their name. Hope those important bills of theirs don't end up in alaska.....(grin).....or failing that, mail them a fresh fish from your new loc....by slow mail. Death to the assclowns! It ain't right, but it sure feels good....
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Because she's not active duty, military law doesn't apply to her. She's subject to the same rules as the rest of the civilian world.


Not being an MP, I'd not 100% about this, so I'll bow to your knowledge on this one, as I know you have more of law enforcement background than me. But, I'd say the since MP/SP's are representatives of federal law she could be held responsible for her actions lawfully by them.

Also, as you already know, I'm sure, servicemembers are responsible for the actions of their dependents. I have known military members to be kicked out of housing based soley on the actions of their dependents. It requires a bit of a history, but it is possible. And by calling the 1SG, the servicemember can be warned (again?) that he needs to be more proactive about the conduct of his wife. I don't think much would piss my wife off more than having someone tell me that I need to keep her under control.

I do feel it's important that you make the call, though. If not for your own benefit (they won't be removed from quarters in 4 days, unless they do something drastic), but it could lay the groundwork for the future occupant of your unit. This is not revenge, this is being responsible (I'd go so far as to addressing a letter to occupant in a month or so to your present address documenting the problems to warn/arm the future occupant with information). The conduct you have described is not only disrespectful and discourteous, but threatening, spiteful, and dangerous.

As a late sidenote, I'd say that while the alarm clock was a disrespectful annoyance that caused you some temporary discomfort (I'm not trying to downplay it, it is a piece in a larger puzzle, but really a smaller piece compared to some actions you've described), the language usage in front of your children (and any others present including her own?) would be a bigger deal to me. And might carry more weight with the SPs if you were to complain.

I do wish you the best of luck in the future with your choice of housing. It seems that you've been through enough and deserve to live with people a bit less aggresive and mean.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
servicemembers are responsible for the actions of their dependents. I have known military members to be kicked out of housing based soley on the actions of their dependents


Gosh, don't you feel harrassed? threatened? Do you feel unsafe walking to your own door? I can just imagine the stress and emotional trauma that they have caused........Think about it really hard, get really worked up, then go to the MP station and file a complaint, maybe even charges for threats of assault (because that was implied, right?) ......oh and don't forget....is she black? Then it's discrimination and racial hate......your poor children must be SOOO traumatized....

A nice juicy complaint will prevent her from harrassing the next neighbors because they won't live on post anymore.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

But, I'd say the since MP/SP's are representatives of federal law she could be held responsible for her actions lawfully by them.


They can brief her, Chip, but they can't detain her or arrest her.  The local sheriff's have to do that.


I have known military members to be kicked out of housing based soley on the actions of their dependents. It requires a bit of a history, but it is possible.


They're on that road already.  Her husband has been warned before that unless the 'gang' activity and the flagrant violation of the rules stops they'll be asked to find alternative housing.  They've done everything from run an illegal home daycare to ride their dirt bikes and 4 wheelers around in the kids playground at the back of our houses...all of which we have overlooked.  We have never reported them for anything.  


And by calling the 1SG, the servicemember can be warned (again?) that he needs to be more proactive about the conduct of his wife.


That's precisely why I'm calling the Shirt this time and not his supervisor.  This has to stop.  The Shirt has heard so many complaints about their conduct...this will just be another one to add to the long list.


This is not revenge, this is being responsible .....The conduct you have described is not only disrespectful and discourteous, but threatening, spiteful, and dangerous.


You're right, this isn't about revenge.  Revenge would be my slashing their tires or keying their car...or putting road kill under their porch.  This isn't anything like that.  This is about my wanting them shut down...about my not wanting them to do to anyone else what they have done to me.  I don't know how familiar you are with the saga, but it's been on-going since Dave left.  Stupid Girl called him to tell him I was being unfaithful, then she made a false report to Family Advocacy saying that I locked my kids alone in the house (we all had to get interviewed over that one)..then she called the SP's and had them run code to my house because she said I had left my 9 year old unattended all day...she told her child that he wasn't allowed in my house to play because I might "molest" him...she also accused me of letting my children look at pornography because I let them play the PS2 game 'Manhunt'.


The alarm clock wasn't that big of a deal, and that's why I called his supervisor to see if anyone could come turn it off.  It wasn't a complaint, it was a request. Now, however, she has succeeded in making me want to take it further.  I will call Dumb Boy's 1st Shirt, regardless, and I will emphasize that she doesn't have anything to say to me when she's alone, but when she's with the 'Black Elk Bitches' and has some people to show off to she's really mouthy.  That, to me, smacks of bullying/indimidating behaviour and the wing commader has already stated that he will not tolerate any more of that from her and her friends.


You know, we're really easy to live next door to.  We're quiet, we're clean, we're approachable, we try to be helpful...we always tell the people that we live around that if we ever do anything that bothers them or disturbs them to please come and tell us, we won't be offended.  We try to be neighborly and look out for other people and their property, and all we really want is to be left alone to live quietly.


is she black?


No, she's white.  She's a spoiled little white girl who's used to getting what she wants.  So is her idiot friend across the street.


Thanks for your comments....it's nice to know that I'm not the only person who sees something wrong with this picture!  Oh, and SNS....yeah, I imagine it would feel pretty good!


 

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Wow, that's a lot better than the old "Bill me for 250 really odd magazine subscriptions" revenge.... and probably a lot more satisfying as well.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
The problem with that, though, LW...as GREAT as it is...is that that might be construed as a threat, and with dharma's hubby being in the military, that might be looked at quite seriously if they ever tracked it back.

You know, though, LW...as a suggestion, you and your hubby might want to consider launching just such a revenge based web business...have people pay you to send out such "gems", and you guys take the heat for it. The beauty of it is, after the first few deliveries, the business would basically advertise itself...lol
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I swear I've seen a site that will do just that for you(though I don't think it is as well laid out as LW's example though).
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
You should use someone else's crap, though, in case they DNA test it.

Can we get a crap donor over here? lol
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, the place I am thinking of dealt exclusively in sending feces through the mail.... though I haven't seen the place for a while... so perhaps they are no longer around. Then again, maybe they diversified.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
hmmm...maybe it was: www.mailmesomecrap.com? Nope, that ain't it...lol

I think they got shut down because of some stupid law that you couldn't buy or sell human wastes (I think it was designed to thwart fetishists). I could be mistaken on this, though.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
...that's great, LW...

I can hear the dispatcher now: "Car 57, we have a situation at 333 state street. It seems there is a dildo in someone's flowerbox...repeat...a dildo in someone's flowerbox. Please proceed with caution and do NOT make eye contact with the dildo. Over."
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
No no NO, you don't put dead annimals under the porch. You put ALMOST dead animals under the porch. Nothing is as mind-rending as a death rattle at 2 AM.

And always file complaints about things, especially for something like this. Those things stack up.

I'm beginning to think that we should relegalize dueling. Maybe then people would be more considerate of others if they knew that they might be getting the business end of a .45 at ten paces after they "insult your honor."
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
No no NO, you don't put dead annimals under the porch. You put ALMOST dead animals under the porch. Nothing is as mind-rending as a death rattle at 2 AM.


note to self: do NOT piss off zweihander01, do NOT piss off zweihander01, do NOT piss off zweihander01.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm beginning to think that we should relegalize dueling. Maybe then people would be more considerate of others if they knew that they might be getting the business end of a .45 at ten paces after they "insult your honor."


I'm a better shot than she is too.........!

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Don't know how things are these days, but when I was in, Base Housing was a privilege. I'd go to the housing office the day you leave and file a formal complaint (if you have time - I know moves are hectic). Won't help you, obviously, but when the next tennant has a problem, there will be some background info for the housing gendarmes. If you can't get it done before you leave, just relish the leaving.

Cheers,
Daiwa