DOG off TV

Yes, we have entered a truly Orwellian world when our private conversations are routinely turned against us in public.

I just wonder how many of the stone throwers need a little Windex for the walls of their houses.

I'm not particularly a fan of Dog's, and I find his comments disgusting, although in no way out of character from what we've seen on the show, but I find the comments of those cheering his fall as some kind of civil rights victory even more appalling. I think people who make a life out of cheering the failings of others might do well to watch their step lest they hit a piece of ice on their own.

we do have something called freedom of speech. it was a private conversation. so i think as you do we are blowing this way out past pluto.

Private conversations shouldn't cost you your career. They should be off limits to the public. What I find is scary is that this wasn't some public display, this was an angry man battling with his son over a disagreement.

I guess the fact that Dog was using racial slurs wasn't even central to the conversation. He did lose his temper but he didn't go off on a racist rant in public and offend people knowingly and willingly.

I think what his son did to him, if true is really more disgusting than the racial slurs. Sure Dog shouldn't have said what he said but you keep your dirty laundry in the family, you don't sell it to the media for them to tear your father to pieces.

Ridiculous.

This made news here in Australia (although I have no idea why). But my thoughts are also that a private conversation, between a father and his son, should in NO WAY cost a man his career. How fracking ridiculous indeed.

You see when you offend people in America you're transported into this stupid world where people think you're guilty of something. I thought we could say whatever we wanted, whenever we wanted even if it is bigoted, hateful, or just plain stupid. You know, that whole freedom of speech thing. The only thing that should limit what you say is yourself- your intelligence and your taste.

Then again, maybe I'm the crazy one.

~Zoo

I agree. Like being a parent, running off at the mouth doesn't require a license. And Dog, of all people, really knew how to run off at the mouth. I firmly believe his son is the one squarely in the wrong, not Dog. Oh yeah, sure, his use of the dreaded 'N' word might not be acceptable but for frack's sake, it was a private conversation. I bet you he won't be talking to his son for a long time to come. Of course, the newspaper in question won't blame themselves for running the article. Scumbags...

Having said this, Australian press is no different in this regard though. They have vilified Aussie sports stars because someone has forwarded the press copies of private text messages.



Nah, I don't believe it...

sorry guys you can say what you want as long as you do not purposely try to cause a riot or inflame people.

Excellent adice, and also I have to wonder what kind of person would relish the failings of others versus offering a hand up or an understanding attitude?

I don't think anybody is defending Dog's comments as right. But sure he's got the right to say them. What about the right to have the conversations you have with your children, confidential. I find it ironic that is was a family member who sold him out, and ironic that he was sold out in exactly the same way in which he was trying to prevent based on the substance of the conversation.

I don't expect this guy to win a Nobel peace prize but I don't think he's a total dumb ass either.

Dog if you are reading, you've done the right thing apologizing, but seriously, you are just the same as everybody else who comes and goes in our society for making racist comments. Maybe it wasn't a fair shake, but hey life isn't fair. The lesson to be learned is there is no place where it is right to use the N word. It will only bring you trouble.

"Mark this day on your calander, Dan, I agree."

Yea it's also a day where I find your description of Dog of something similar to Vick, "nothing more than a white ex con thug" or some such, conspicuously absent though nobody would be describing this guy in much different terms, than Michael Vick. Certainly Dog ain't high class akin Michael Richards. Not feeling the need today to point out the color of the skin on his body, and slam him for being a thug or from the inner city?

Actually, he's from the Texas Panhandle, but who's counting?

I find it curious, Dan, that you find holding racist thoughts privately and brutally murdering and torturing animals to be morally equivalent.

Dog's comments were meant to be part of a private conversation. They weren't said at a heckler at a public performance. They weren't said in the context of an interview or a radio show. Dog's comments, however heinous people may find them, were private until his son made them public (for money, no less!)

what exactly is dawg's career?

he's a fuckin bounty hunter/bail bondsman. any kinda publicity works to his advantage.

anyone who finds this at all surprising must not have been paying very much attention to the show. he and his wife throw around dat 'bra' and 'auntie' stuff all de damn day bra, patronizing whomever they presume to be islanders while referring to their fellow caucasions as 'haoles'. (yeah, i know they both claim to have native american blood as do so many other blue-eyed blondes when it works in their favor.)

considering a typical episode consists of them 'cleaning up the streets' by returning to custody the very same people whose release therefrom they previously collected a fee to engineer AND they subject em all to cloying sermons on the way back to the slam (inevitably reducing dawg hissself to tears), why shouldn't duane be required to do a lil penitential time hisself? can't think of anything more appropriate than for him to have to ride around oahu about 10 times in the middle seat of an suv cuffed & stuffed betwee jesse and al sharpton.

kingbee,

You may ask, what exactly is dog's career, but I ask what law did he actually break in using the "N" word? Yes, it's offensive, but if free speech doesn't include the right to say something offensive, it's not really free speech now, is it?

I could care less what happens to Dog's show. Yes, I enjoyed it on the rare occasions I got to watch it, but it's just another TV show, really. I am just surprised at Dan's equation of Dog's comments to Mike Vick's actions. All his comments prove, to me is, he's exactly what you see on TV, only uncensored, in real life.

he broke no law of which i'm aware in this instance. nor are a&e, the show's producer or both legally required (except according to specfic contract terms if they exist) to continue taping/broadcasting his show if dawg does or says something potentially embarrassing to them or insulting to their audience.

my guess is this: any of dawg's dozens of kids who sell him out to tabloids prollyy got the idea (if not all the necessary contact info) from dawggy daddy and beth.

shoulda took a lesson from britney, lindsay and paris. don't wanna risk compromisomg your reputation or damaging your career by showing the world your vulva? wear panties.

what about those blue eyed full blooded Indians in north Carolina, and Montana. not many but a few.


what are you going to call them. then there was the full blooded Indian who went to job core with me. she made me look red and that was before i got my permanent tan.

I listened to the whole thing. It seems more about Dog controlling his son than about his being racist. But, it sounds from that one tape like Dog is a racist to me.

So?

Doesn't he have the right to be? Is it a requirement now we must hate everyone equal?

Dog's son is a dirtbag for selling the tape. I don't think a bounty hunter should lose his job because he says negative things. I worked with cops and they deal with certain races of people more than others, and its hard not to get negative about them when they see the worst of it every day.

This whole thing makes me sick.

no dog was trying to save his TV carrier from a bad girl. not realizing that his son was the bad person.

Oh, I agree. A&E has every right to drop him, provided they fulfill the terms of their contract. I just have to wonder why there's any flap beyond that.

he ain't losin his bounty huntin job cuz of this. his wife owns the bail bond company that's his primary client.

i'm more than a lil amused by concerns over violations of a bounty hunter's rights cause there won't be any reciprocity forthcoming.

warrant? we don need no steenkeeng warrants.

I thought what Alec Baldwin said to his daughter on the answering machine was worse than what Dog said. Neither of them did anything worth making decisions around, but both showed themselves for the small minds they are.

Recognizing people's rights shouldn't be based on how they recognize (or don't) the rights of others, kingbee.

of course not. i'm not disputing nor denying dawg's rights.

best part of a dawg episode far as i'm concerned occurs after the capture...during inevitable ride to the jail. no matter how badly wound up our hero may be during the hunt, no matter how aggressive the takedown, something amazing begins once dawg's got his quarry hooked up & seatbelted in the center--jammed between himself and one of his many bail agent progeny--of the middle-tier suv bench seat. he starts passin out cigarettes, water, advice and sympathy. dawg almost always winds up blubbering if not outright bawling while promising to do whatever it takes to get his captive released again soon as he or she's been processed.

i'm always equally more than a lil bit amused by that as well.

nothin like a big ol hit of pathos & irony.

buwhahahaha

That show really does suck. Like LW I couldn't stand watching more than a few seconds at a time, so I missed this....hahahaha.

"I find it curious, Dan, that you find holding racist thoughts privately and brutally murdering and torturing animals to be morally equivalent."

You misunderstand, I was referring to Whip's lack of characterizing of this man, when at first glace, she characterized Vick, as black. The fact that Dog is no more or less a thug, than Vick, yet he is White, not black, is what stood out to me.

"Dog's comments were meant to be part of a private conversation. They weren't said at a heckler at a public performance. "

Agreed. I'm not making the case that he should have lost his job, or be in jail. I'm also not making the case that he should have chosen the words he did.

"what exactly is dawg's career?"

He's a(n)...

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bounty hunter
bail bondsman
and former star of a #1 rated cable tv show.

"can't think of anything more appropriate than for him to have to ride around oahu about 10 times in the middle seat of an suv cuffed & stuffed betwee jesse and al sharpton."

Please don't make me laugh so hard when I read this stuff. LOL LOL LOL

"I am just surprised at Dan's equation of Dog's comments to Mike Vick's actions."

Perhaps I wasn't clear, but that's not what I am saying. I am equating Dog, an ex con, with a loud mouth, money, and celebrity to Michael Vick, soon to be an ex con, with a loud mouth, money, and celebrity. Their actions, one of a racist, the other of a cruel person, really line up in terms of virtuous deeds. Some would call them thugs, and I will, Dog is a thug, the way he treats people who end up running from the law, not like a professional but like he is some spirit priest, the whole get up he wears, the show he puts on, benefits he and his clan not the criminal. Though some would argue that criminals don't deserve benefits. You are not a criminal, until proven guilty, you are innocent until proven guilty, via due process, before hand you are a suspect.

Now, to be clear, my comment, was directed to Whip, who initiated a comment on this thread, stating her agreement, not calling him a no good white thug or whatever, conspicuously absent from her comments were a characterization of "The Dog". While Vick, she was quick to jump to calling in the string of negative characterizations and linking them with his skin color, though it was obvious what color his skin was. That is the point I was making.

"I listened to the whole thing. It seems more about Dog controlling his son than about his being racist. But, it sounds from that one tape like Dog is a racist to me."

He's not a bright man, but as for racist, he makes the comments of a racist, but so did Michael Richards, in public, to people in a direct effort to offend. A bunch of "black leaders" subsequently stated after he apologized he was not a racist. People make bad decisions, in this case, Dog should have learned Richards' lesson beforehand.

"You know what, I'm getting really fucking sick of you bringing up every topic we've ever debated on in the past on every thread (yours, mine, or a third party's) we encounter each other on."

Right. Well you are free to stop posting, or grow up, or move onto other threads. I don't go searching out your forum posts, I don't bring this up on every thread, you know that, and can stop mischaracterizing what I write, now. For all the feather ruffling you do online Whip, it really bothers you when I ask you something, when I challenge you doesn't it? Really gets to you.

"You seem to view as 'unfinished' any disagreement we've had that didn't end with me 'seeing the light' (or at least seeing it YOUR way.)"

Sure, that's totally it, I'm just pointing it out because it is obvious and conspicuous.

"I'm shocked that you didn't throw in my desire to give 9 year olds birth control and encourage them to have sex with your hypothetical children, just for good measure."

It's a good thing you don't have kids, because kids don't learn well from parents who are big cry babies.

"I blame it on people like you, Dan, and I think you're crying real crocodile tears here."

Oh blow it out your ass Whip. Wa wa wa.

"I thought what Alec Baldwin said to his daughter on the answering machine was worse than what Dog said. Neither of them did anything worth making decisions around, but both showed themselves for the small minds they are."

Blaming this one me too Whip?

"he starts passin out cigarettes, water, advice and sympathy. dawg almost always winds up blubbering if not outright bawling while promising to do whatever it takes to get his captive released again soon as he or she's been processed."

That's the "Full House" part of each episode. Can't you just see Bob Sagat in the role of "the Dog" ok never mind, me either. LOL

I hope you all don't get the idea that I enjoyed watching this show and actively worked to make it #1, well I did watch the show, enough to know what it was a about, like I watch football, not really my thing, except the Packers are 7-1! Michael Vick, wasn't really a player I ever cared or even followed. I've seen about 15 min of two episodes and it is the same thing, lets go get this guy, where they right down the details on the white board, jump in the SUV's drive out to some place on Hawaii, surround a house, smoke out the bad guy, cuff em and stuff em, take em on a sympathy & scenery ride to the jail. Great TV it was not.

With all the writers on strike in Hollywood A&E might have to rerun episodes of this crap lol.

For good TV, watch Discovery, see Deadliest Catch, and How it's Made, and MythBusters, awesome programs. I also like Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe, that's great TV. Even if it is a hint of reality TV. Another good program is Orange Country Choppers but everybody has seen that probably, on TLC. Those are the kind of things I like to watch in case anybody wants to analyze that.

if you have noticed i stopped commenting on this because few of you want to give the man his rights.




this man is more or less workong with in the law. he does what he has to to protect himself and his team. no i don't watch the show.


vic was using dogs to kill each other for fun.


i do not see how these two can even be compared.


if i remember the same people on here didn't want to give vic his rights either.