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On Darwin and our Dangerous Times

On Darwin and our Dangerous Times

With palms together,
Good Morning Everyone,

So, you are home, snuggled up with Your Little Honey, and someone breaks in through your door. Or. You are robbed at gunpoint in a parking lot. Or. Someone threatens you with a knife and is about to rape your partner.

We hear such scenarios whenever a discussion occurs surrounding non-violence. They are, essentially, emotional popcorn to chew in the move created by the scene.

Most of us rarely, if ever, encounter violent assault or overt threats of violence. Yet such scenarios are easily spun and far too easily are pictured in our mind's eye. Once there, our heart rate increases, our breathing becomes a tad more shallow, and we begin to think like an animal who wishes to survive. Instead of recourse to reason, negotiation, or other human avenues, we seemingly automatically go to a prehistoric response.

Some may point to Darwin and say, its the survival of the fittest, the law of the jungle or some other such lame excuse for throwing out civility. Yet Darwin, when actually talking about human beings rarely applied such terms. In fact, in his The Descent of Man, love and mutual aid are the key survival mechanisms. So, what is going on here?

We are trained to be this way. This is not something inherent. We are not born to be violent. We learn to be violent. The groundwork for violence is in our culture itself and the dominant religious models. Yet, these lessons turn us away from our more natural state, that of communal beings.

Darwin:
Social animals are impelled partly by a wish to aid the members of their

community in a general manner, but more commonly to perform certain

definite actions. Man is impelled by the same general wish to aid his

fellows; but has few or no special instincts. He differs also from the

lower animals in the power of expressing his desires by words, which thus

become a guide to the aid required and bestowed. The motive to give aid is

likewise much modified in man: it no longer consists solely of a blind

instinctive impulse, but is much influenced by the praise or blame of his

fellows. The appreciation and the bestowal of praise and blame both rest

on sympathy; and this emotion, as we have seen, is one of the most

important elements of the social instincts. Sympathy, though gained as an

instinct, is also much strengthened by exercise or habit.


What Darwin is calling "sympathy" more modern researchers might call "empathy" or the ability to feel what others are feeling or experiencing without have actually experienced the same ourselves. I discussed the physiological basis for this in an earlier note regarding "mirror neurons. Unfortunately for us, these neurons aren't particularly selective, hence if we watch a film with strong emotion and violent content we are likely to mirror the feelings expressed in our minds and thus create what Buddhists call "seeds".


Darwin: As all men desire their own happiness, praise or blame is bestowed on actions and

motives, according as they lead to this end; and as happiness is an essential part of the general good, the greatest-happiness principle indirectly serves as a nearly safe standard of right and wrong. As the reasoning powers advance and experience is gained, the remoter effects of certain lines of conduct on the character of the individual, and on the

general good, are perceived; and then the self-regarding virtues come within the scope of public opinion, and receive praise, and their opposites blame. But with the less civilised nations reason often errs, and many bad customs and base superstitions come within the same scope, and are then esteemed as high virtues, and their breach as heavy crimes.


The Descent of Man,(citation from Chapter 21 on-line edition)


My concern here is that civilization itself has turned on us. This is also a thesis of a recent book, The Death of Religion and the Rebirth of spirituality by Joseph Chilton Pearce. So, what was once an intermediary between our mirror neurons and our assumptions about civilized life, has now become something of a block to our growth and certainly a chill on our willingness to care for our neighbors.

One antidote is to create conditions within which we can deepen our already existing sense of prosocial humanitarianism. We do this by practice. Practicing Zazen, Practicing smiling, openness, and joyfulness. This is not really all that difficult. More importantly however, we must be willing to use reason in the face of emotional pleas to action. Will our behavioral choice bring about more good over bad for all concerned? Can the choice be accomplished with the least harm?

Knee-jerk responses rooted in fundamentalism and the reptilian mind are an anathema to civilization. We must be wiser than this.

Be well. "
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Reply #26 Top
I see I left out a word in the last post...it should read God had given Adam and Eve reason that they might know what is right and good. They already had knowledge of good. [/quote]

Where is this written?

Ah yes, deny the Fall, deny Original Sin. Oh yes, there was The Fall...The Fall is Adam and Eve's prideful disobedience of God's probation to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.[/quote]

First of all, you are talking as if you believe there was an actual person named Adam and an actual person named Eve. If you believe this, I have a bridge out in the desert to sell you. These are archetypes, mythic aspects, characters in a story told to make a point.


Through their fallen state, sin entered the world. God created us and He certainly has a right to lay down laws according to which we must conduct ourselves. Sin is a crime against God or the laws of God.


So, God creates the world, its perfect or, at least, very good, including the two humans he created in his image no less. Then Eve gets the idea from a snake that she should disobey God. Hmmm. Don't you see a problem here?

If she were created knowing good, as you say, and with free will, but there is no evil inclination, then how could she possibly be tempted? If you are wearing rose colored glasses, all you see is rose.

Sounds like a set-up to me. Now what on earth or heaven would God want to do that for? And please don't tell me, he wants to test us. That's just plain insulting to an omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent God.

BTW, Lula, when I use the word "myth" I do not mean falsehood, that's a distant, weaker, use of the word. Please check a good dictionary.
Reply #27 Top
So, as you then say, born in sin is a state rather than an act, would mean that God would send a newborn to hell having done nothing.


Those infant's souls, without Baptism, will neither be admitted to the glory of Heaven nor condemned to suffer punishment in Hell. Newborn babies have not the use of reason and cannot commit personal or actual sin. They go to the Limbo of the Just also referred to as Abraham's bosom St Luke 16:22. The punishment is the deprivation of the vision of God.
Reply #28 Top
The Fall is Adam and Eve's prideful disobedience of God's probation to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.


Were they really prideful about it? Seems like a perfectly normal thing to be really curious about - curiosity being a fairly common human trait. I'd have probably asked God "Why?" first. But I'd think God could have seen it coming. Create a human, and maybe expect them to act like one? Is that a stretch for the omnipotent and omniscient? Must be, because now it's all Eve's fault.

To this day the best way to get a kid to do something is to tell them "don't do that under any circumstances." Surely God knew this. But then I've heard it mentioned by some of the posters above that it was God's intent all along for the Fall to happen so that Jesus could come along later and save the day. All part of the master plan. A trap, actually.

Quite manipulative, but whatever.
Reply #29 Top
DO DAIHO POSTS:
An infant chooses to rebel against God?

Or is my assumption incorrect, an unbaptized infant does not go to hell if it dies before baptism?


KFC POSTS:
well if you're talking to Lula maybe.


Again, Those infant's souls, without Baptism, will neither be admitted to the glory of Heaven nor condemned to suffer punishment in Hell. Newborn babies have not the use of reason and cannot commit personal or actual sin. They go to the Limbo of the Just also referred to as Abraham's bosom St Luke 16:22. The punishment is the deprivation of the vision of God.

SODaiho, the Catholic understanding of infant Baptism is easy to understand if explained this way. Before Christ, Heaven was open to those of God's chosen people through circumcision of the Old Covenant. With Christ's death on the Cross, salvation and the gates of Heaven were opened up to all. Baptism is the Christian seal of the New Covenant by which we beome members of God's chosen people. Baptism of the New Covenant replaced circumcision of the Old Covenant.

Reply #30 Top
"Those infant's souls, without Baptism, will neither be admitted to the glory of Heaven nor condemned to suffer punishment in Hell. Newborn babies have not the use of reason and cannot commit personal or actual sin."

Would you say, then, that these babies are a little less than human?
Reply #31 Top
As far as I can tell, both my baby and my toddler still both speak in tongue all the time. I think they believe in God more than I do sometimes.