Al Gore, We're listening now

As I logged in, I wasn't too surprised to see that you Joes are already talking about this. Well dangit, I want to talk about it too.

A couple days ago as I was trying to make sense of the pile-o-everything that's always accumulating on our computer desk, I noticed a couple DVDs that John rented the night before. Garfield's Holiday Celebration (yes, the orange Cat) and then something called An Inconvenient Truth. I didn't think much of either, maybe because I doubted that anyone who comes home from Blockbuster with a Garfield cartoon could have anything significant on his mind. I did, however, notice on the cover of An Inconvenient Truth that Roger Ebert said, "In 39 years, I have never written these words in a movie review, but here they are. You owe it to yourself to see this film."

The next day my random internetting informed me that Al Gore (haha, I just typo-ed, "Bore" twice before I finally found the G key) ...that Al Gore had just been announced as the winner of the latest Nobel Peace Prize. In my own little corner of the world I wondered how my husband had the foresight to rent Gore's DVD the day before the Nobel Prize was announced, but it was just a coincidence.

My interest was piqued to find out what Al Gore had to say that was worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize, so I had no problem agreeing to watch the movie with my hubby this evening. I'm pretty picky about movies.

I must say that was a damn good movie. I found it absolutely riveting, educational, fascinating, eye-opening, and Mr. Gore even made it entertaining.

My childlike mind jumps to one part in particular: With a happy little cartoon frog, Al illustrates his point that the general population doesn't notice Global Warming because it's so gradual. We see the animated frog jump into a pot of boiling water and immediately jump back out because the water's dang hot. Smart li'l froggie. Then we see the same frog jump into a pot of lukewarm water and he sits there complacently, unaware that it's gradually begun to boil. He probably won't notice he's in trouble until it's too late to jump out. But Mr. Gore doesn't want that frog to boil. In the knick of time, the hand of a knowledgeable and forward-thinking person pulls that frog out of the hot water.

Al is simply urging mankind to use our own knowledge and resources to save ourselves in the knick of time.

So Gore's compelling speech has spurred me into a more globally-conscious, energy-efficient mindset.

In my little la-la land I come up with ways I can do my part to help the environment. For example, I'm just dying to overhaul our Ford Freestyle's engine into a more environmentally-friendly fuel cell. (We bought that car without doing any research at all. It was simply "bigger" than the car we'd been driving, and had room for more people and big stuff. We weren't even thinking about fuel efficiency.) Now if we were to overhaul that Ford's engine into a fuel cell, we'd need hydrogen for fuel. For lack of hydrogen filling stations around here, we could make our own hydrogen at home with shredded aluminum foil and Drain-O! Oh yeah baby. With my hubby the chemistry junkie and me the globally-aware wife, we could have some fun. (And we'd probably need life-happens with her fix-it prowess to help tear our car apart and put it back together.) OK, I'm only joking a little bit. I'm not mocking global warming. I AM serious about fuel cell vehicles. I really think vehicles should be run on hydrogen. Can you imagine the only byproduct of vehicle fuel being water vapor? With less CO2 being trapped in the atmosphere, the global warming trend could be slowed or reversed.

But we'll start by taping plastic around our widow frames and buying some of those nifty spiral light bulbs. It's a start.

Al Gore's movie really makes me long to know, if in a parallel universe he had won the Presidency instead of Bush 1 or Bush 2, what the world would be like today. I think Gore would have focused on improving the world. I wonder how he would have responded to the 9/11 attack? Would he have waged this War on Terrorism? Would there be troops in Iraq? Would Sadaam have been captured? Good and bad things have come from Bush's administration. In my current optimistic mindset, and having just watched An Inconvenient Truth, I can only imagine that good things would have come from Gore had he been elected President.
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I am glad you liked the movie.  But...heh, always one of those.....

Rant on....

Sounds like your tape and spiral light bulbs are already doing more than Al Gore is willing to do (besides talk of course).

Here is my problem with the whole thing.  Are we so arrogant as Americans that we believe if we just knuckle down and change, the world will be a better place?

Come on.

There is an entire planet of people who couldn't care less about global warming.  Yeah, we can make all these sacrifices and then what?  Postpone what Al Gore says will happen by a tiny bit?  It seems like a drop in the bucket to me.

I want alternative fuel so we can get off the middle east tit.  If it helps the environment, great.

If Gore was president....well we'd probably have some cleaner cities.  All the better for the terrorists when they come to kill us.  Blood looks so much better splashed against uber clean streets.

Don't get me wrong.  I do care about the environment.  But I am unlikely to listen to someone talking about carbon footprints when he doesn't walk the walk.

I used to think the Nobel Peace Prize meant something.  Now I wonder if it isn't trying to be the new Oscar.

Rant off....

 

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Why didn't Al Gore use his influence during EIGHT YEARS as VP to affect climate change?

Why is Al Gore demanding we pinch and scrimp to "save the planet" while his lifestyle is excessive, and he justifies his indulgences through the purchases of "Carbon Credits"? If I believed that: 1) the end of the world was imminent due to global warming; and 2) that I could make a difference through a more carbon friendly lifestyle, I'd cut my personal emissions to the bone FIRST.

Like Tova, I'm glad you liked the movie, but I would encourage you to use the movie to START a dialogue on environmental responsibility, not as your ultimate authority.
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Why didn't Al Gore use his influence during EIGHT YEARS as VP to affect climate change?


BINGO!   

AngelaMarie,

You've seen the movie...and now we know he's won the Nobel Peace prize. Can you explain what espousing alarmist apocalypical propagandist theory has to do with "Peace" prize?
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must say that was a damn good movie. I found it absolutely riveting, educational, fascinating, eye-opening, and Mr. Gore even made it entertaining.


Do you know that it's being force fed to young school children all over the world? The reports are in they are frightened by it, suffering nightmares and feeling despair that the world is coming to an end.

The movie was being shown in England's schools as scientific fact until a lawsuit was filed. A British judge has just recently found that there a nine critical scientific mistakes which casts a grave shadow over AlGore's credibility.

As a conservationist, I'm all for caring for the earth...but not by following AlGore's way...I need proven fact to buy into man-made global warming. As far as I can tell climate change is a cyclical part of nature.

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Well then what's his deal? If he doesn't walk the talk, then what's really going on? Does he have a hidden agenda? The whole thing seemed pretty sincere to me. But there I go relying on my instincts again...

I'll read your link Dr Guy when I get a second. As it is now, I'm stealing time from my son. I'm supposed to be taking him to a Kinder Farm Fall Festival. He's getting antsy, gotta go!!!
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Does he have a hidden agenda?


Nope. Money and power aren't exactly hidden agendas.

Al Gore has achieved the kind of power enjoyed by shakedown artists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. He's presented his thesis, it's been accepted, he can now use that to collect money by the billions through guilt tactics.

The whole idea of "carbon credits" is absurd. If our planet is in dire peril, why allow pollution simply because the CEO wrote you a check?

Don't worry, Angela. Gore's duped billions, so it's no shame to be taken in by his dishonest tactics. The thing is, you're doing the right thing by reducing your impact regardless. So keep doing what you're doing, just don't feel guilty about what you're NOT doing!
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The reports are in they are frightened by it, suffering nightmares and feeling despair that the world is coming to an end.


Just like Christianity and the Rapture, huh?

~Zoo
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Anywho, the point is, Global Warming is actually happening. Whether or not people are the cause of it is still out there. We have to remember that there have been several ice ages and global climate shifts. Whether this is just another one starting or the shit load of people on earth are screwing it up remains to be seen. If the reason turns out to be people, then it'll probably be too late to do anything by the time we figure that out. Reducing the harming effects of people on the world on an idividual scale is still a good thing. I'm a zoologist in training, I really don't want to see the environment go to hell because people were being wasteful assholes.

The human race has already caused the extinction of many species, so we're capable of screwing up something, whether we're heating the globe or not remains to be seen. America probably can't do anything to reverse the trend by itself...we're going to need most of Europe and Asia with us to do that if it is indeed people that are causing this.

~Zoo
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Well then what's his deal? If he doesn't walk the talk, then what's really going on?


When you have some extra time, read SoDaiho's forum, On Gore, Coulter and Intelligence...it's a good discussion with both sides being advanced.

Gideon gave good advice. Just do your part and be a good steward of the earth.







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Lula posts:
The reports are in they are frightened by it, suffering nightmares and feeling despair that the world is coming to an end.




Zoo,

I mentioned this to AngelaMarie becasue I know from one of her blogs that she is a parent and would be interested to know such things.
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Nope. Money and power aren't exactly hidden agendas.


Don't forget celebrity. I've never seen Gore smile as much as since he's been rubbing elbows all the time with the celebs. He was a do nothing think nothing robot as VP. He left no legacy in the White House so now he's got his Oscar and his Nobel.

Like Gid said, if anyone knows what "carbon credits" are, they will see that Gore obviously doesn't truly believe what he's preaching.

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(My husband wrote that last comment.)

Oh, and since I was last here it looks like he deleted it too. Hmm.

In response to Gideon's, "Why didn't Al Gore use his influence during EIGHT YEARS as VP to affect climate change?" My husband said, "What VP doesn't sit and do nothing?"

I, however, do not endorse that comment (and apparently after the heat of the moment died down, my hubby remembered that he prefers to avoid conflicts). I do think Gideon's question is worth considering.
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Just like Christianity and the Rapture, huh?


well not exactly.....in the Rapture there's a good guy coming to take them away to a good place.

On Gore, Coulter and Intelligence


I didn't want to hurt So Daiho's feelings but I was couldn't get past his title....Gore....Intelligence? The two just didn't seem to belong in the same heading. It's an oxyomoron.....





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Al Gore's movie really makes me long to know, if in a parallel universe he had won the Presidency instead of Bush 1 or Bush 2, what the world would be like today. I think Gore would have focused on improving the world. I wonder how he would have responded to the 9/11 attack? Would he have waged this War on Terrorism? Would there be troops in Iraq? Would Sadaam have been captured? Good and bad things have come from Bush's administration. In my current optimistic mindset, and having just watched An Inconvenient Truth, I can only imagine that good things would have come from Gore had he been elected President.

What, specifically, do you think Gore would have accomplished to make the world a better place?

Let's start with CO2 emissions. Let's say that he got elected and was able to take his hypothesis about CO2 from humans causing global warming. 

Okay. Do you think your life would be better if we instituted a program in which no one was allowed to commute more than say 10 miles to work? 

If we want to really reduce CO2 emissions, if they really are the boogeyman, then let's talk about what it would take:

  1. Elimination of long-distance commutting would significantly reduce US CO2 emissions.
  2. Outlawing of air conditioning if indoor temperature is less than 80 degrees.
  3. Elimination of private jets.

Those are the 3 most obvious things we could do to make a significant, immediate affect to CO2 emisissions.

Are you willing to do this? Would this make your life better? Or do you really mean that you want a President who proclaims that we should do something and not that we actually do anything.

BTW, I commute 6 miles to work, fly on commercial airlines, and keep the air conditioner off unless it's over 80.  Al Gore, by contrast, does none of these things - yet he's the one proclaiming the coming environmental apocalypse due to CO2 use. 

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BTW, I commute 6 miles to work, fly on commercial airlines, and keep the air conditioner off unless it's over 80.


Cheapskate.  
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in the Rapture there's a good guy coming to take them away to a good place.


Unless you screw up, then it's plagues, war, famine, and disease for everyone.

~Zoo
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no one has answered the question.


CO2 levels were higher during the age of the dinosaurs. then why do we not already have a run away greenhouse. and how did man affect the CO2 levels 200 million years before we were around.
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Unless you screw up, then it's plagues, war, famine, and disease for everyone


i guess you haven't been watching the news for a long time now.
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Unless you screw up, then it's plagues, war, famine, and disease for everyone


hey....you said this in context of little kids getting scared.....the little kids have nothing to worry about

i guess you haven't been watching the news for a long time now.


no kidding. It's already here. Just gonna get worse....talk about the earth heating up....I think the left has it right, they just don't have the source of it correct.
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hey....you said this in context of little kids getting scared.....the little kids have nothing to worry about


I know, I'm saying it's sort of like a scare tactic...like the boogeyman.

i guess you haven't been watching the news for a long time now.


I stopped watching the news because that's all they ever report. The world sucks and I don't need to be reminded of that every day. I don't recall saying that the world was all sunshine and rainbows...however, when you're talking end of the world Bible stuff, it could be a hell of a lot worse.

~Zoo
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however, when you're talking end of the world Bible stuff, it could be a hell of a lot worse.


well, ya... true....but look at it this way....it's really like a fire drill. The real thing is coming someday and for those participating in the drills and paying close attention they will be ready.

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however, when you're talking end of the world Bible stuff, it could be a hell of a lot worse.


not until the temple is rebuilt. and the USA becomes that which it champions against. ie freedom of speech, and all of the other rights.
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well, ya... true....but look at it this way....it's really like a fire drill. The real thing is coming someday and for those participating in the drills and paying close attention they will be ready.


actually Christ said not to worry about it.