Nobel Prize

It's official, I now have no respect what so ever for the Nobel Prize.  It was bad enough that they gave one to Jimmy Carter.  Now they've given one to Al Gore for Global Warming....what the hell?!

Forget the fact that Global Warming, despite popular belief, is still a theory,  (there has been nothing proven in regards to "Global Warming") all Al Gore has done is use his celebrity as ex vice president to spread the word about this theory.  What about all of these scientist that are actually gathering data and forming the theories?  Does anyone really think Al Gore came up with the theory?  Well, I guess those who believe he invented the internet would buy it.

The Nobel Prize is a joke and I'm seriously dissappointed in that fact.

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ditto.
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My question is. How does fight against Global Warming have ANYTHING to do with peace?
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Most scientists on the planet agree that global warming is a fact, not a theory.
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You know Jill, as an outsider, I often wonder why some Americans don't congatulate instead of being critical of everyone who gets kudos for some achievement. As you probably know ,we South Africans have our fair share of Nobel Laureates and we are extremely proud of them. I'm generalising, of course, but I wonder whether any successful American gets a boost from his people.

Perhaps you know something we don't but a Nobel prize coming our way is always worth beating the drums for!
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Most scientists on the planet agree that global warming is a fact, not a theory.


But do those agree that humans are responsible? NOPE.

You know Jill, as an outsider, I often wonder why some Americans don't congatulate instead of being critical of everyone who gets kudos for some achievement. As you probably know ,we South Africans have our fair share of Nobel Laureates and we are extremely proud of them. I'm generalising, of course, but I wonder whether any successful American gets a boost from his people.


Because he comes across as one of the largest hypocrites out there. WE should walk, ride bikes, take public transportation yet he ONLY takes his private jet everywhere he goes. Very little signs of personal conviction on his message. For me if I saw actual conviction and not this 'carbon offset' crap then I would most certainly congratulate him.

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Does it matter whether it's man-made or not? What's your point?
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The Nobel Prize is a joke and I'm seriously dissappointed in that fact.


DITTO, Jilluser....at least this year it is...

It's the Nobel Peace prize I might add. Can anyone tell us what AlGore has done in the work of climate change to promote peace? What's he done to deserve the "Peace" prize?

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Does it matter whether it's man-made or not? What's your point?


That most agree there is some global warming however there is little agreement as to the cause. Just adding to your comment.
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Any body that can give the peace prize to a known terrorist like Yasser Arafat, can do nothing to suprise me anymore.
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I assume you're american.


Does it matter? What's your point?
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Reply By: Adventure-DudePosted: Friday, October 12, 2007
I assume you're american.


Does it matter? What's your point?

Because if the person that asked the question is from Europe, they somehow feel they are superior to us, for the life of me why I have no Idea.

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Because he comes across as one of the largest hypocrites out there. WE should walk, ride bikes, take public transportation yet he ONLY takes his private jet everywhere he goes. Very little signs of personal conviction on his message. For me if I saw actual conviction and not this 'carbon offset' crap then I would most certainly congratulate him.
Amen! "carbon neutral" what a load of crap!

What's he done to deserve the "Peace" prize?
Exactly!

I assume you're american.

And I assume you have nothing useful to say. What's your point? What does being American have anything to do with it? Al Gore has done nothing to promote peace yet he was awarded the peace prize. That leads me to believe in has no merit.

Any body that can give the peace prize to a known terrorist like Yasser Arafat, can do nothing to suprise me anymore.


Excellent point!


My question is. How does fight against Global Warming have ANYTHING to do with peace?


Great question.

Most scientists on the planet agree that global warming is a fact, not a theory.


Oh really, who are these scientists and what proof do they have because opinion does not equal fact. Most people on the planet agree that there is a God, that doesn't make it a fact.

You know Jill, as an outsider, I often wonder why some Americans don't congatulate instead of being critical of everyone who gets kudos for some achievement.


I criticized two winners of the prize. How does that qualify me as never giving kudos? I give credit where credit is due. Beat the drums for whatever you like. It has nothing to do with my being American. It has everything to do with merit.

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Most scientists on the planet agree that global warming is a fact, not a theory.

No, Scientists do not.  Many believe in the "theory", but as scientists, facts are a precious commodity that is not used lightly.  No scientist worth their salt believe it to be fact.

As for Al Gore, if indeed this was a "fact", why did the high court of the UK label the movie as political propaganda?  Citing the non-proved and unprovable statements of facts made in the movie?  Has that vast right wing conspiracy that has the US in its grip now conquered Great Britain?

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The Nobel Prize is a joke and I'm seriously dissappointed in that fact


I normally would ignore a post like this but in this instance, I just couldn't.

I have to ask a question? If George Bush had won instead of Al Gore, would you still think the Nobel Prize is a joke? I mean, come on, just because you don't agree with the man, doesn't mean you have to denigrate the institution, the same institution that has awarded prizes to people such as Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa, the 14th Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela.

And yes, just in case you ask, I happen to think Al Gore deserved this award because he brought a message to the world very few other leaders were willing to talk about. He got it in the press and in the faces of those who can actually do something about it.

Global warming, whether you believe it or not, is very real. Just ask the farmers being decimated by the worst droughts ever in Australia.
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Global warming, whether you believe it or not, is very real. Just ask the farmers being decimated by the worst droughts ever in Australia.


The issue is not Global Warming. The issue is man made global warming, and that is very much in doubt.
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I have to ask a question? If George Bush had won instead of Al Gore, would you still think the Nobel Prize is a joke?


Absolutely! What has W done for world peace? It isn't his political leanings my friend. It is lack of merit. Sure, many people have rightly been awarded but after Arafat, Carter and Gore, I can't help but think it's a joke.

Oh, and very scientific of you to say drought in Australia=GW----FACT! Science doesn't work that way my. There are plenty of explainations to what is happening with global climate changes and none of them resoundingly conclude that human beings have caused global warming...and that's a fact jack.
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Doc,

The issue is not Global Warming. The issue is man made global warming, and that is very much in doubt.


Did I say 'man made' global warming? I said I happened to believe Al Gore deserved the award for bringing this issue to the attention of the world's media. My reaction was to the view that the Nobel Peace Prize is a crock because it chose winners who some might not agree with or like.

Jill,

\very scientific of you to say drought in Australia=GW----FACT


To start with, I'm not a scientist. But I am living with increasingly high prices for just about every sort of food product because of the decimating drought. I believe this is caused by global warming. Whether it is man made or not is still up for debate. Al Gore might be presenting something which is provocative to a lot of folk but at least he is trying to do something, which was totally my point.



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Most scientists on the planet agree that global warming is a fact, not a theory.


True.(Well, perhaps not solid fact, but a damned plausible theory.)

But do those agree that humans are responsible? NOPE.


Also true.


I'm only here for the science, to hell with politics.




~Zoo
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To start with, I'm not a scientist. But I am living with increasingly high prices for just about every sort of food product because of the decimating drought. I believe this is caused by global warming.


dynamaso, would you agree that this is not the first drought ever seen on Australia? How about 1942-1945?

Al Gore might be presenting something which is provocative to a lot of folk but at least he is trying to do something, which was totally my point.


point taken and I'll leave it at that.
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Al Gore might be presenting something which is provocative to a lot of folk but at least he is trying to do something,


Yes he is. He's trying to make money and become more powerful. Nothing wrong with that, right?

Before you say it, yes, I am harsh on Al Gore and his lifestyle in relation to what he preaches. To me it is no different than the preacher who begs for the congregant's last penny, yet drives a Mercedes. If you're going to preach a lifestyle, you should LIVE it (and no, indulgences don't count).

While I would never have wanted him for president, I at least respect Ralph Nader for his consistency. Nader is a true believer. Nader has been preaching environmental responsibility since before Gore was sitting in Congress. And Nader LIVES the life he encourages others to live. Gore does not.

If working towards climate change merits a Nobel, Nader should have had TEN before Gore had ONE!
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If working towards climate change merits a Nobel, Nader should have had TEN before Gore had ONE!


Bingo!
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If working towards climate change merits a Nobel, Nader should have had TEN before Gore had ONE!


Bingo!


Excellent point to Gideon! And my dittos on AD.
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So basically, what you're saying is, you shouldn't have to DO anything to win a prize, you just have to talk about what others have accomplished? Oh man, I am so going to win next year.

I don't have to stop wars, I just have to talk about how other people ended a war, and bring the threat of new wars to the attention of the public, never mind who is actually stopping wars.