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Lesbians Do Not Have Special Rights Says Judge

Lesbians Do Not Have Special Rights Says Judge

Didn't Want Mom to Know

I guess mom knows now that her daughter is a lesbian and it didn't go over very well. So the school got sued.

Two girls were caught kissing in California's Santiago High School, and like all kissing infractions parents were notified. The administration was just following the rules like they always do, but this time they were sued. Why? Because one girl was now "outed" to her mother.

The American Civil Liberties Union and the Gay Straight Alliance Network brought the federal suit, claiming the girls were disciplined because they were gay.

The judge disagreed saying this was not motivated by sexual orientation, but the school was just enforcing their policy.

"Schools have a right to set rules for public displays of affection, and they have a right to enforce these rules with appropriate discipline," said Kevin Snider of the Pacific Justice Institute. "If the student had won in this case, that would have undermined the Bill of Rights. It's not surprising in many ways that the ACLU once again shows its confusion over due process rights."

Is this just another tactic by the gay activists to look like helpless victims? Did they really think they had a special case here even though school policy is clearly written that kissing in the school by students is against the rules and parents would be notified? Did they really think they are a specially protected class that doesn't have to abide by the same rules that heteros have to abide by?

Well I guess our school doesn't have this policy. Last year two girls were sitting on the front steps of our local HS, kissing away. But then our school prides itself on being social progressives. Problem? What problem? Girls will be girls?

I've got to remind myself I live in a blue state. What else can I expect? At least I know I'm moving to a "warmer" state soon both physically, socially and politically.

Florida here I come.



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Reply #26 Top
The rest of the 18 hour day......kiss away.


Then how are you supposed to be gay without letting your parents know?

~Zoo
Reply #27 Top
Then how are you supposed to be gay without letting your parents know?


You're not.

Reply #28 Top
the problem here is that in the bible it male on male sex that is a sin.

why because it is the male that propagates the species. the males are wasting the sperm.


females aren't waisting anything. the only exception is mother daughter.

Reply #29 Top
the problem here is that in the bible it male on male sex that is a sin.


this is not true. It says clearly in scripture:

"For this cause God gave them up to vile affections, for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature." Romans 1:26
Reply #30 Top
"Greet one another with a kiss of love. Peace be to you all who are in Christ." 1 Peter 5:14

"O that thou wert as my brother, that sucked the breasts of my mother! when I should find thee without, I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised." Song of Solomon 8:1

"And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him." Matthew 26:48

"Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you." Romans 16:16

" All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss." 1 Corinthians 16:20

"Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss." 2 Corinthians 13:12


Reply #31 Top
hahahahah yes Larry, but I'm going waaaaaay out on a limb here......and going to say, that's not what we're discussing here. I'm pretty quite sure (and being a HS coach helps) that they were not greeting each other with a holy kiss here.

Reply #32 Top
that they were not greeting each other with a holy kiss here.


They couldn't even if they wanted to, could they?

I hope Jesus doesn't show up in a highschool when the second coming rolls around...or he's going to be in trouble.

~Zoo
Reply #33 Top
the males are wasting the sperm.



I can hear the Monty Python song now . . . "Every Sperm is Sacred" . . .



You make me laugh sometimes, danielost.
Reply #34 Top
it is in genesis someplace i think. where the second brother marries the wife of the first as per the law. any ways he dumps his seed on the ground so that the son wouldn't be his brothers. god killed him
Reply #35 Top
"Every Sperm is Sacred" . . .


Ah...I have this movie.

~Zoo
Reply #36 Top

any ways he dumps his seed on the ground so that the son wouldn't be his brothers. god killed him

Not for ejaculating outside a vagina.

He was rebelling against God's law by not impregnating his brother's widow.  Yeah, he'd have sex with her, that was GREEEEAAAT!  But he didn't want to fulfill God's law and give her children.

If every man who ever ejaculated outside a vagina angered God enough to take their lives...well, there wouldn't be any men after puberty would there?

It's not about semen, its about obedience.

Reply #37 Top
If every man who ever ejaculated outside a vagina angered God enough to take their lives...well, there wouldn't be any men after puberty would there?


We'd all be dead, a thousand times dead!

~Zoo
Reply #38 Top
Sorry fellas, This is CharlesCS1. I forgot I was signed on under my wifes name when I posted above. But I will answer the question made to me.

I'm curious, what is your position on the practice of abortion?


I don't believe in abortions but I can not stop people from doing it. I can only stop them from using my money to pay for it. I agree with many here that people refuse to take responsability for their own actions and are using abortions as a means to steer clear of losing their freedom once the child begins to grow in their bodies and is born. But as I explained I have no power over stopping people from doing abortions I can only stop them from using my tax money to do it.

Here's a question for all of you who don't think a baby is a baby till they are of a certain amount of months in the mommys body. Do you think women should continue to smoke, drink and use drugs till the time it is believed a fetus is a person? (sorry for diviating on the topic, just had to ask since I was asked about abortion)

Oh Christ...that has nothing to do with lesbians.


Though you are right Zoo, it's OK with me. I'm not surprised to have been asked since people need to have specific details about ones beliefs now a days. God forbid one would have a single soldier out of place when having an opinion.
Reply #39 Top
LOL, Charles, I hope your wife doesn't see the things you've written about her!
Reply #40 Top
Here's a question for all of you who don't think a baby is a baby till they are of a certain amount of months in the mommys body. Do you think women should continue to smoke, drink and use drugs till the time it is believed a fetus is a person?


If they're actively trying to kill it or damage it they can continue to do so at any time. Drugs(including nicotine and alcohol) will come into play at any time during development.

A fetus is a person at the moment you start calling it a human fetus. Fetus stage comes after embryo stage, though...so that's probably where the abortion argument lies. I stay out of that particular debate, myself.

~Zoo
Reply #41 Top
So rules of proper conduct don't mean anything to you?

There are proper times and places for romantic displays of affection like this type of kissing is. The school isn't one of these.


Rubbish... So they teach kids sex education then tell them they can't kiss? What's next? Banning adult couples from kissing in public because it might disturb someone else's sense of 'proper conduct'. This is the 21st century, not the 19th, people. Get a grip!
Reply #42 Top
DrGuy's scenario of "social interaction".....14, 15, 16, and 17 year olds in the classrom and the bell rings...all exit and pair up smooching away...guy and girl...girl and girl...guy and guy...same deal during lunch....

Like I said, there is a proper time and a proper place for kissing and the school ain't it.


Not pure non-sense, a difference in opinion. There were no such idiotic rules when I was in school, and WOW! I guess we all turned into sexual predators! NOT.

I guess you took my statement to an extreme to prove a point of purience? However, nowhere in any of my statements, nor in the article, nor in any study I have seen supports your scenario as being typical or even wide spread.
Reply #43 Top
While I agree I'm sure it wasn't just a peck on the cheek or a quick buss on the lips. I'm sure it was more involved and I believe the school had every right to enforce its policy. I applaud the school for doing this.


I only applaud the fact that they are not being discriminatory in enforcing the rules. I still say the rules are ridiculous.
Reply #44 Top
A lot of the argument against the ruling has had to do with people who think rules against kissing in the hall are archaic. I'll be naive here for a second and pretend we're talking about a simple peck on the cheek and not a tongued examination of the upper GI tract.

The FACT is, the school had a WRITTEN policy against PDA. The FACT is, regardless of HOW archaic YOU think it is, it was the school district's RIGHT to set policy for its students. If the parents and students felt it was archaic, it was equally THEIR right to address the issue before the school board, and to move the students to another school if they felt the rules at this one were too strict.

The court in this decision made the right decision, e.g., we shouldn't change the rules for homosexuals that we have in place for all students. As for the students' "privacy", well, parents should be able to be aware of what their children are doing in the time at school. Parents are, after all, legally responsible for their children, and have a right to know.
Reply #45 Top
, Charles, I hope your wife doesn't see the things you've written about her!


I have a pretty honest relationship with my wife and she knows very well how I feel about the way she is. Consider the fact that it was I who told to to join. It is kinda funny though. Maybe even a bit suicidal.
Reply #46 Top
Well said Gid. In a nutshell....if you don't like the rules, change them by going thru the proper channels otherwise you have nothing but chaos.

Kissing is not necessary in school and knowing what usually goes on in the HS most of us know exactly what this "kissing" entails when it comes to hormone charged young people.

A little discipline in this area is a good thing for them to learn.
Reply #47 Top

well your honor, my friend said to me that she had this piece of something stuck in her teeth way back in her mouth and could not get it out, so me being such a good friend tried to remove it using my tongue so as not to hurt her, yes I had my hands holding her face in what COULD BE construed as a romantic gesture but in truth I was just holding her head still so I could get the something out of her mouth, of course we had to be close during the procedure due to the limits of the length of my tongue.

Reply #48 Top
If being gay is really a-okay, why would she be so pissed that she was outed? Why didn't she just tell her parents herself?
Reply #49 Top
If being gay is really a-okay, why would she be so pissed that she was outed?


That's what I was thinking...why would they all be up in arms about keeping it a secret?

~Zoo
Reply #50 Top
kids, make sure you study the story,,PDAs is a no-brain people ever done...MASYAALLAH......