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Racism at the BET Block Party

Racism at the BET Block Party

Misleading title - sort of - but whatever

Let's see...where to start with this one...

I guess with:

I have now met BUNCHES of Africans spanning a few countries in West Africa, namely Ghana, Togo, Angola, Gabon, and Sao Tome and Principe, and it taught me something funny. Afro-American is a really really silly term. I've met a lot of "Afro-Americans" spanning most of the continental United States, and after doing some elaborate math which I won't bore you with here, the number of relevant instances of resemblance between the two subsets of humans is...*checks notes*...ah yes. Here it is. Zero. (I don't count dark skin as relevant...in fact, I count that as obvious.)

I do realize that the "Afro" part of the phrase is supposedly due to pride in heritage, but I very rarely encounter it as such. What I usually observe is that it is a statement of resentment that won't die, and, in fact, a statement that some black folks don't WANT that resentment to die. And here comes the most recent example that will explain the title of this blog.

For the last few days, I was sent, with 23 other Navy band members, to Cannes, France to play a few gigs. We stayed on an air craft carrier. (Can't tell ya which one, although it might be published somewhere...I dunno, but Operational Security forbids me)

For sleeping arrangements, (which is a pretty funny joke since it was impossible to do any sleeping), they put us in the "hood." The berthing was mostly *cough* "Afro-americans" *cough* who were probably the most rude and obnoxious people I have ever seen. Up late at night until the wee hours of the morning shouting expletives at the top of their lungs while playing Xbox or watching porn while other people had the audacity to try and sleep.

So...I was in a bottom rack, and two racks above me was this little white guy. For those of you who don't really understand sleeping arrangements on ships' berthings, a "rack" is about the size of a coffin - in fact, the locker for your stuff which is accessed by lifting your bed up is called a "coffin locker." They are usually stacked in threes.

On the last night we were there, there was a VIP reception that I played some jazz at. They almost always have alcohol at these receptions which played into what happened.

After the gig, and we had packed and stowed all of our gear, I returned to my rack because it was going to be an early morning for our departure. The BET Block Party was already in full force...actually, it had never stopped since the moment we arrived, but let's not split hairs. One of the guys who had been a server at the reception returned shortly after proclaiming loudly to his niggas (his word, not mine) that he was drunk. I guess he considered the proximity of the alcohol he was serving the guests to be a license to get drunk on duty.

He proceeded to "nigga" this and "nigga" that at the top of his lungs for about an hour wherepon the little white guy two racks above me returned from liberty on shore. From my rack I hear him exclaim "Damn...someone stole my curtains!" (The curtains on your rack are all that you have to get a little privacy while in your rack - privacy that you obviously need when you need to beat one down, as we say.)

So he walks into the BET Block Party and after all of these "Afro-Americans" had been shouting "nigga this and nigga that" for about an hour, this guy says to them "I really would like to know who stole my curtains" and he was pretty nice about it. Laughter ensued, and the little white guy says "Listen, you know I love all you black people, and stealing my towel is one thing, but I NEED my curtains," to which I heard this astonishing response. "Oh you are NOT going to go there..."

I muttered "you've been shouting "nigga" at the top of your lungs for an hour, but if this guy says the word "black" he isn't supposed to? Why?

Well we all know the answer to that. It's because he's white.
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Reply #26 Top
Wow, my respect for the Navy just keeps growing.

*cough*
Reply #27 Top
asaxygirlJuly 30, 2007 14:53:53Reply #39


Yes, MM...I am Mrs. Razor. Thank you for your kind comments. Hope they hold, in light of my recent rant. Ciao, Bello!


hey a good rant just makes you more human to me at least, defending your hubby makes you even better. As far as rants go DO NOT read some of my stuff where I go off, you might be surprised at what comes off my fingertips, I was born and raised in East Harlem, an area NOT known for gentle qualities.
Reply #28 Top
Very interesting conversation.

On a nit-picky side note (because I have nothing useful to add to the larger conversation)...

When we have a 'Irish-American' caucus in congress


We sort of do -- the "Congressional Friends of Ireland" (started by Kennedy and currently headed by Congressman Neal).
Reply #29 Top
You should congratulate yourself on establishing that you are far more supreme than a white supremicist.


when someone (KINGBEE) speaks for me without my permission I get mad. HOW DARE YOU! Steve is not a white supremacist, NOR do I think he is, NOR do I see him as such, NOR did I EVER SAY THAT! You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.


it appears the two of you are reading something i never wrote. please also note i put no words into anyone's mouth.

these aren't my words:

Mari was concerned that the whole thing would be taken as some white supremicist statement on my part


my comment--she seems able to see you more clearly than you see yourself--seems to me even more accurate & appropriate in light of this:

It is easy to pick and choose words from a person's writing to bolster ones opinion of that person


of course it is. although 'bolster ones opinion' presupposes an existing opinion; this isn't the case and i don't recall reading any similar previous posts on this topic so i had no preconception to bolster.

i don't know how else we're to perceive others here except by words they choose to include in their writing. after you've listed several of the more inflammatory words used in this article, this seems more than a lil bit disingenuous:

all play into the easy path of calling Steve a white supremacist because he is white and he is writing about his experience on board a ship in berthing populated with mostly blacks. My concern was that some readers would not choose to look beyond those few "fighting words" to hear what he was really saying.


those words don't play into some well-plotted trap by readers. exactly the opposite is true; it's only reasonable for readers to take an author by his words. when 'fighting words' are chosen, why fault readers for perceiving them as such?

Reply #30 Top
What I got from his blog is:

1) We are all people, so why the great disparity in treatment?

2) Why can one group use a "derogatory" term amongst themselves and it be considered OK and a person of another group say something maybe remotely offensive and he gets pummelled?

3) Why do a minority (and I believe they are in the minority) within the "African-American" community insist upon perpetuating the sterotype they purport to want to dispell?


i'm glad the two of you communicate so well with each other. for at least one of us outside your loop, the message wasn't quite so obvious nor so benign.

if those three statements are, in fact, what was intended, i'd have to say i saw nothing at all of #1 with only a hint of #3. ss to #2, hey there are no laws against saying whatever you want to whomever you want, however derogatory it may be. if you're not a member of the group you're disrespecting--no matter what group that may be and no matter whether they freely disrespect each other--it's very possible you'll piss em off.
Reply #31 Top
They seem like the questions of someone that reacts to certain subjects with "company lines" from certain camps


i've very limited experience with life aboard ship. i once spent the worst part of a winter living and working on several us steel ore boats in milwaukee harbor. my questions may have been prompted by naive idealism or too many viewings of 'mutiny on the bounty'.

as far as i know there are no canned 'company line' questions about life in the navy upon which i might have drawn.

thanks for the suggestion tho!
Reply #32 Top
What is js/payne? I use AGV anti-virus religiously...is that what went nuts or was it a malware, etc...blocker? I can't imagine what of mine would be a problem. Give me more info so I can lock it down.


it was avg. whatever it is is locked away in its vault and the log refers only to something in one of my temp ie folders.

i can't find the link you posted or i would already have gone back already to check on it. please post a link and i'll get back to you asap.