Tyranny Is Coming to America

It's already starting.

Our freedoms are beginning to be infringed upon by legislation, and it's only going to get worse. When the nation began, there was no need for so many laws. The people had self-judgement, based upon the scriptural principles that were held dear by the founding fathers. While they may not have believed that Jesus saves, they did believe that the Bible held the principles for governing a nation. The Constitution of this nation is only as morally strong as those who interpret it, as we have seen in recent years.

At this point, the people are split into two major camps - those with themselves as the moral guide, and those with objective moral guides, such as scriptures.

Atheism and agnosticism scares me. They are like kites, floating in the wind, with scriptural principles as the kite-flyer. While the religious and sensible enjoy the flight, these others cry, "Who are you to hold me back? If I didn't have this string attached to me I could fly higher!" In the name of freedom they fight against this tether - and when their iniquity is complete, when they finally take their scissors and sever this cord, they will find themselves as a kite would - on the ground. Not realizing until too late that the only way they had the ability, the freedom to fly in the first place was to have that connection.

They will crash to the ground, because as the people become more unhindered, less modest, things will start to get bad. Riots, mobs marching the streets, unhindered by law enforcement that has too many laws to enforce anymore. And the only way to fix it, to restore any order, is more laws. With each law passed, more of our freedoms that we hold so dear will be stripped away in the name of order. All because someone decided that there is no absolute truth, that character wasn't important anymore, and that freedom meant cutting the tether.

(Many thanks to my pastor - most of this came from him, if not all. Most of my religious posts are drawn from him - he's my pastor. But I feel compelled to share, so that we can discuss. :) )
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Good points Jythier.

 

I have a basic distrust for anyone who teaches that there is nothing bigger than, nor anyone more important than, one's self.

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Thanks, ParaTed. That's a healthy distrust. After all, if nothing is bigger or more important than oneself, one can justify any behavior in the name of self.
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Hi Jytheir,

Good article.

Man's love of himself over love of God epitomized in ideologies such as atheism, agnosticism, secular humanism, consumerism, materialism, hedonism, libertinism, modernism, radical feminism, homosexualism eventally lead to personal, governmental and societal chaos. Just look at the history books.
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Thanks Lula, nice to have you agreeing with me.
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Many thanks to my pastor - most of this came from him, if not all. Most of my religious posts are drawn from him - he's my pastor. But I feel compelled to share, so that we can discuss. )


I like your Pastor....  

My Pastor's been preaching on Revelation....guess what I'm blogging about?   

Here in our neck of the woods we had a triple murder. A young man blew three people away in a store for no other reason than they were mean to him he said. He later (while police were on a manhunt) took a ride from an elderly couple and did nothing to them. When asked why...he replied that the couple were nice to him.

It's all about me society coming to fruition and it's going to get rougher. We've only begun to reap what's been sown the last 30 years. This man is 31.



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Well, at least one under 30 guy is going to turn out all right, I think. Me!

My pastor seems to think the end is near, but also thinks that we still have a chance for revival. I hope he's right.
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My pastor seems to think the end is near,


Truth is every generation since Jesus' Incarnation has thought the end was near.

Jesus told us what to do....watch and pray for we don't know the hour or the day.

We must be ready as best we are able to meet our Maker which will come at our death or on the Last Day.
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My pastor seems to think the end is near, but also thinks that we still have a chance for revival. I hope he's right.


I agree. Tho not sure about the revival. I wonder if Billy Graham isn't the last big evangelist for the whole world. Nobody has been like him. He was able to go into communist countries that no one ever was able to do before. Time will tell.

It's been my thought that the end will come in my lifetime. I found a few things interesting of late. One is Al Gore doing his thing. Somebody sent me Gore on U-Tube in a holographic mode. Then I picked up Sunday's paper and a big article was given to this same topic.

It was really really like the Left Behind books coming true. Everybody getting the message at once in their own language. Gore was reaching the whole world via Washington speaking so that every language worldwide could understand simultaneously. Weird. Reminds me of Revelation where the world will wonder and worship the "image" of the beast. Also the whole world will watch the two dead witnesses for 3 days. How could this have been done even 20 yrs ago?

I agree with your pastor.

Well, at least one under 30 guy is going to turn out all right, I think. Me!


Thank your parents!!! They did something right!!




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When this nation began there was no mail, no masses of people and scare resources, no A-bombs, no highways, no automobiles, people knew how to raise and cook their own food, produce their own energy: there were no standing armies, save he militia. Our Founders were literate men who studied a variety of scripture. Thomas Jefferson, for example, studied Hindu texts. Ben Franklin supported public education, libraries, and (I suspect) would not have understood the need to burn a book.

Where in our constition are these scriptual principles that can govern a nation? A scriptually based governance is a theocracy, much like the Muslim world values.

Tyranny is indeed coming to America. Its name is fundamentalism: Christian, Islamic, Jewish.

Be well.
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Tyranny is indeed coming to America. Its name is fundamentalism: Christian, Islamic, Jewish.


But is that not what they guarded against with the constitution? That so many sects push for something that is not yet to be, indicates that so far, it is working.
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Tyranny is indeed coming to America. Its name is fundamentalism: Christian, Islamic, Jewish.


I don't see how you can come to this conclusion Sodaiho. First of all the Christians and the Jews are on the way DOWN. They are losing more and more power and rights daily. So that can't be true. But where I'd agree with you is Islam. They are breeding and spreading all over the world at an alarming rate. That's where I'd put my money on. Watch Europe and do a bit of research and you'll see that the Muslims will soon out populate the Europeans in the next few years.

Their hatred for anyone outside of their own religion will be something we are going to have to deal with in a real big way soon.

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I deal with fundies all the time, entirely Christian and Jewish. I have yet to have to deal with a Muslim. You yourself have said your religion is superior, that you believe our government should be run on Christian principles. f it were up to you, my children and grandchildren would be saying the Lord's prayer in school, attending Christmas pagents in school, and your particular beliefs would be the rule of law. This is a theocratic belief, whether you acknowledge it to be so or not, and it is the same as the Islamic fundamentalist believe. When a non-Christian is offered an opprtunity to lead a prayer in the House or senate, it isn't the non-fundies who get all in a tither. It is the fundie Christins who squak like chiken little, oy, the sky is falling. Fundamentalism and absolutism are the marks of tyranny, and in my mind that;s evil.

Be well.
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When a non-Christian is offered an opportunity to lead a prayer in the House or senate, it isn't the non-fundies who get all in a tither. It is the fundie Christians who squawk like chicken little, oy, the sky is falling. Fundamentalism and absolutism are the marks of tyranny, and in my mind that's evil.




Well spoken, friend. With palms together and all that. Namaste.
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The sky is very high. It takes a long time to fall. You don't believe how great this nation was when people prayed in school, people allowed Christmas pagents, and we didn't have to have so many laws because people had self control, and took responsibility for themselves. Those days are over. Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint. And we've lost the vision that kept this nation from falling apart. It's not going to finish falling apart today, maybe not even within our lifetimes, but the course is set.
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I think you're being brainwashed dude.

Christians don't "hold the kite strings" of all people. How do you think rules and "morals" came about? Cooperation, society, social norms, all that far predates Christianity.

Humans have, from early times, learned and put into practice, behavioral expectations that were advantageous to them as individuals and as a group.
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This is a theocratic belief, whether you acknowledge it to be so or not, and it is the same as the Islamic fundamentalist believe.


Well not really. In the Islam religion you have no choice. To come to Christianity means certain death if found out. We're seeing that all over the place right now. That's not so with Christianity. While Islam is propagated by a sword, Christianity is propagated by love. I'd say that's a big difference. There's no "off with your head" if you don't take Jesus as your Savior.

When a non-Christian is offered an opprtunity to lead a prayer in the House or senate, it isn't the non-fundies who get all in a tither.


Anyone that truly has Christ as their Savior are appalled that a Hindu led a prayer in the US Senate. Some may shrug their shoulders and say "what are you going to do" while others are enraged but they all believe it should not happen in a Christian country. We all agree but just have diff reactions.

In reality tho, we know that we shouldn't expect anything else. We were told this would happen and are supposed to remember we are citizen in another land that is not here. We are Kingdom Citizens so why get all in a tither as you say. So in some respects you're right, but in another we still want it to stay a Christian Nation as we started for our kids and grandkids. But all in all we are going to lose the battle because that's just the way it's going to happen. It's just shocking to see it in our lifetime.



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Christians don't hold the kite strings. Christian principles do. They were the only thing holding this nation together.

As we move away from these principles, behavior is getting more disorderly. Eventually, to restore that order, we will no longer have the freedom to speak out against sin. The press is already getting less and less free. You can't say whatever you want on television or radio because people said things that they should not have said in the first place, so now we have censors. Because of those censors, we now have paid TV and radio where the censors cannot touch, in the name of freedom of speech, but actually for the freedom of obscenity. Their ideas weren't shut down, they just wanted to swear more.

They call us Christians intolerant, as they ride our tolerance all the way to the death of America. If more Christians were intolerant, you wouldn't see garbage on TV. It would be morally based programming. But we're tolerant, so we watch your shows, we listen to your radio, and we slowly become less like Christ. Then you wonder why Christians start blowing up abortion clinics. They took the value, but instead of being Christ-like in that value, they are world-like. So they do something Christ would have never done, even though it was against something Christ did not approve. It's not right, but it's getting harder and harder to be like Christ when we can't drive down the street without having the world's view with relative truth, and taking what you want when you want it because hey, you only live for a while, so you might as well enjoy it, shoved down our throats.
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JYTHEIR POSTS:
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The sky is very high. It takes a long time to fall. You don't believe how great this nation was when people prayed in school, people allowed Christmas pagents, and we didn't have to have so many laws because people had self control, and took responsibility for themselves. Those days are over. Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint. And we've lost the vision that kept this nation from falling apart. It's not going to finish falling apart today, maybe not even within our lifetimes, but the course is set.


TEXAS WAHINE POSTS:
I think you're being brainwashed dude.


Actually, Texas, Jythier knows of what he is speaking. Just look at the stats taken in the 2000 census. Ever since 1960, everywhere in the country there has been a tremendous increase of abortions, divorce, immorality and filthy propaganda reaching Americans through movies, music, TV, videos, and literature. Money, material possessions, fame and power have become 'gods' worshipped by millions of Americans. Success is measured by what a person has..and it matters little how he gets what he has.

In 1962, the US Supreme Court prohibited the saying of the simple non-denominational prayer in public schools. It was "Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon thee, and we beg thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our country."

In 1963, the Supreme Court banned Bible teaching in schools. And in 1980, the SC ordered public schools to remove the Ten COmmandments from student view.

Since 1960-2000--- SAT combined math and verbal scores have dropped consistently 10 % on tests that have been made easier. Source: College entrnace Exam Board

Since 1960-2000---Teen Suicide (15-19 year olds) is up 450%. Source national center for Health Statistics.

Since 1960-2000---Child abuse is up 2,300%. Source: US DEPT. of H & HS and Child Maltreatment.

Since 1960-2000---Illegal drugs (% of Youth who have used them)is up 6,000%. Source: National Institute on Drug Use.

Since 1960-2000---Births to unmarried girls (15-19 yr. olds)is up 500%. Source: US DEPT. of Commerce;Bureau of Census.

Criminal arrests (robberies and assault) of teens (14-17 yr.olds) is up 150%. Source: US DEPT. of Census; Historical Statistics of US.

The most graphic means of highlighting the alarming trend is to contrast them with the top offenses of students in the 1950's:

They are in order Talking, chewing gum, running in halls, wearing improper clothing, getting out of line.

Top offenses of students 40 years later, rape, robbery, assault, personal theft, drug use followed by alcohol abuse, carry8ing weapons, absenteeism, vandalism, gang warfare, pregnancies, abortions, suicide and venereal diseases.

I'd say the Devil is saying the ol' USA is nothing but a political contraption that used to be the uniquely last great hope on earth when the whole was greater than the sum of its parts (Not any more). It was a place for something called the "quality of life" when an individual mattered not just for consensus but for the common good (Not any more). Oh, yes, these are things we must strongly consider for they are key to understanding that we have become a pluralist State fomenting out of both sides of its mouth against the Church.

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We may lose this battle, KFC, but who is going to win the war?
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While statistics are always neato to look at, it's also important to remember that nobody really cares about them. After all, the cause of these kids being so out of control could be that their parents aren't disciplining them.

That's another thing that's out of control - parents, and the regulation thereof. Because parents started beating their kids, molesting kids, now you can't touch your kid in any way without wondering if you're going to jail over it. I can volunteer at the nursery at church, but I can't change diapers. I was in there today, and I was afraid to interact with the babies. If I hold this baby in my lap, will I get sued? If I tossle that boy's hair, will people look at me differently? My freedom to be a good Dad, and a good child care provider, is gone.

Heck, I worry about a time when I won't be able to change my own son's diapers. Actually, I think they should pass that legislation, because I'm lazy and it's kinda gross. But, you know, when I feel like helping my wife out, I guess I should have the freedom to do it.

Never mind that freedom, how about having the freedom to interact with the opposite sex at work without that niggling thought in the back of your mind. If you make a slip, perfectly accidental, you can lose your career.

Of course, you can also lose your career with a girl anywhere. Sexual harrassment suits are big deals these days, make for good headlines. "Man Looks at Woman, Sued for $15M"

When I was in elementary school, ELEMENTARY school for crying out loud, this girl pretended to like me for a couple days, just to mess with me, and gave me a fake number. I got her real number from her ex, because he's a dick, and I let the girl know I had it...

"Why didn't you call me?"
"I'll call you tonight, its (real number) right?"
"Where did you get that number? Don't ever speak to me again. Don't even LOOK at me..." Then, my favorite part... "or I'll sue you for sexual harrassment!"

...

8th grade sucks.

Anyway, I was afraid of litigation in those days. She wasn't even hot hot. But when someone says "Don't ____" what's the first thing you do?

No, I didn't end up in court, but I was always paranoid and nervous around her after that, because who would believe me, this ugly little 8th grader, against an attractive 8th grade girl? Nobody. At least, that's what I thought.

Anyway, sexual harrassment lawsuits are way out of control but at the same time, I don't want women to be sexually harrassed. If men didn't harrass them to start with, it wouldn't matter, but once the men through off their restraint, the women through off theirs and used the legal system for personal gain, making a huge joke out of everything.
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Ever since 1960, everywhere in the country there has been a tremendous increase of abortions, divorce, immorality and filthy propaganda reaching Americans through movies, music, TV, videos, and literature.


You have the most fascinating bureau of statistics! How do they quantify the amount of 'filthy propaganda reaching Americans'? Does it have its own unit of measurement?

And what about immorality? Does every citizen dutifully fill out forms on their sexual experiences in order to maintain the database? It sounds like a goldmine of blackmail material!

I've tried googling to find these figures but I haven't been able to; possibly they're stored in a US-only part of the Bureau website. If an American could summarise the methodology for me I'd be fascinated to see it!

The most graphic means of highlighting the alarming trend is to contrast them with the top offenses of students in the 1950's:

They are in order Talking, chewing gum, running in halls, wearing improper clothing, getting out of line.

Top offenses of students 40 years later, rape, robbery, assault, personal theft, drug use followed by alcohol abuse, carry8ing weapons, absenteeism, vandalism, gang warfare, pregnancies, abortions, suicide and venereal diseases.


You're not being scientific here. Where do you get these claims from? I wasn't aware talking and chewing gum were tracked by the government, and if they are how can you be sure they're not the most common student crimes today? It has been a few years (six now) since I was in high school but I don't remember seeing any mass orgies of rape, robbery, assault and drug use in the classroom. But there was a hell of a lot of talking.

I guess your kids go to a very different kind of school - are you sure they're not in prison instead? It is an easy mistake to make!
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Anyone that truly has Christ as their Savior are appalled that a Hindu led a prayer in the US Senate.


Wow. In one blanket statement, KFC calls me, Mason, and a whole slew of other Christians non-Christians. Nice.
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Well, there you have it. If KFC said it, have fun in Hell.
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Anyone that truly has Christ as their Savior are appalled that a Hindu led a prayer in the US Senate.


Well, there you have it. If KFC said it, have fun in Hell.


I was going to make my reply to these comments here, but I thought I'd leave my meanness on my own blog, here. Keep in mind, you people have gotten me into a pretty sour mood . . .
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Thanks, SC. KFC saying something doesn't make it truth, I was just being... mean, maybe? I don't know. Probably. I didn't mean to question your Christianity, in fact I was just being mean to KFC. I apologize to you both.