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Do we really want the cranky Frog back?

Do we really want the cranky Frog back?

Spending more time in the community

Years ago, I lived on the forums on WC. Not just WC but on forums all over the place. There was a joke once that if you said my name 3 times on a forum, I would magically appear and havoc would ensue.

So why did I stop?  Too busy? That's some of it. But a bigger reason is that I tend to not always be..the most politically correct guy around.

Or to put it another way, recently I got hooked on a new show after having multiple, independent people tell me I am just like a specific fictional character -- Dr. House on the TV show House. Not that it's a perfect fit (I don't think anyone would say I'm unethical) but I can be pretty cranky.

I'd say I'm more of a cross between Rearden from Atlas Shrugged and House. But it's still the same difference. I'm an evil, blood-thirsty capitalist. I've been an evil, blood-thirsty capitalist from day 1.  When the first skinning sites opened, I was there. 

Here's an article I wrote on the subject:

https://www.wincustomize.com/Articles.aspx?SID=1&AID=136943

Another reason I was gone is that I felt WC2K5 kind of sucked.  The ugly light blue look. The way the site was poorly organized or crashing or just plain slow. I just didn't like it.

And too many of the people hanging out were boring or at least boorish and elitist. I saw people being snide and rude to new users as if applying little bitmaps to your user interface is somehow an intuitive thing. So I stayed away.

I also didn't like how ratings were done. T-man and I argued about this. If you watch House, T-man is like Dr. Wilson (i.e. super nice).  I'm not nice. I don't think most of you should be allowed to rate skins. I originally had it that only other skinners could rate skins. But it got changed so that subscribers could also rate which really bugged me. But once a feature is given, it's hard to take it away.  But with WC2K7, we changed that.  Now ratings are weighted. So non-skinners who have subscriptions can rate but if a skinner votes, it counts for a lot more in determining the overall rating.  If someone hates that, you can start your own thread and complain there. Like I said, if I were total emperor and could turn back time, only skinners would be allowed to rate things at all. If I work hard on a skin, I don't want some random guy giving me a 1 and wrecking my rating.

Getting back to WC2K7...I really like it. If they can get IIS to quit crashing randomly (which is why sometimes it's really really fast and other times you sit there waiting 30 seconds) it'll be totally awesome.  I love the bread-crumbs.  I find it easy to navigate and much easier to write articles.

But we need to do more. We need to start following up on the Stardock failures of 2006. Admitting you have a problem is only the first step after all.

So anyway, my question to you guys is, is WC better off with the main administrator face being the volunteers along with Jafo and Zoomba who are nice? Or do you think it would work out if I started to increase my presence again even though I'm kind of a jerk that should be locked up in a lab coding stuff rather than telling users that I don't want them to ever purchase our software again?  

You can tell me the truth. I'm already in the fetal postiion.

 

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Reply #26 Top
Bring it on !~! Your presence here and site improvements have been noted and appreciated.

We're all big Girls & boys and can handle it, would rather have a cranky & crazy frog than none at all.
If you think this site is important enough to be a visible presence on than I see more members making it important too.

OMG Zubaz that is too funny. Frogboy I can see you buzzing around the forums just like that

So say your piece no matter what, let the chips fall where they may and a closer knit community will come out of it. p.s. Not condoning flaming or insulting, thats why I only recently started back to the forums. People that can't take it and respond with insults will be weeded out. And those that are left are the people that will make you want to come back regardless of whether you agree with them or not.

It's My Secret


Reply #27 Top
Everything that has been written makes sense but I'm not sure it gets to the root of the problem. There needs to be an Adult in the room if you want the Children to behave. Not trying to make lite of the concerns expressed here, just alittle basic human behavorial traits need to be understood when there are more than two people trying to control the conversation. Got to go now feel a draft on the back of my neck, someone must of left a window opened.   
Reply #28 Top
Thought about this some more. Over the last year or so there's been a considerable improvement in many of Stardock's ventures.

Not that I don't enjoy reading your opinions I'm just wondering if the best use of your time isn't focused in behind the scenes leadership?
Reply #29 Top
It's starting to sound an awful lot like you........care.

Now I'm confused.
Reply #30 Top
Political corectness is the root of all evil as I.R. said.
Bring forth the multitude of enlightenment that only a sloven enraged Frog can put forth. It might put some of the whiny ass "oh don't hurt my feelings or I'll sue" people on the proper course.
Reply #31 Top
What would wincustomize be without you Frogboy? Last time I checked you're still awesome!

Zero and out.
Reply #32 Top

I would rather hear the truth, which has been your strong point (at least during my 2 - 3 years here).

I think your presence would be fine. I have always found your comments to be predominately mature and eloquent. A fine example for anyone posting in the forums, especially in some of the more enthusiastic (heated?) threads here at WC.

I would also like to thank you for supporting the customization community by providing company funding for the site. Although it strongly supports the Stardock software by providing a lot of content for use with the programs, it is nevertheless a great gesture on the part of you and your company.

BTW - I do not have T-Man's e-mail addy, and noticed that there is no longer a link to the former moderators forum when I logon. Has it been removed, or is it now limited to certain moderators and administrators? A comment here or an e-mail would be great.

Thanks again, Brad.

Reply #33 Top
I would love it if you were around here more, Brad. I always enjoy seeing your posts.
Reply #34 Top
I always love arguing with capitalist pigs. Go for it.
Reply #35 Top

If indeed, "And too many of the people hanging out were boring or at least boorish and elitist. I saw people being snide and rude to new users as if applying little bitmaps to your user interface is somehow an intuitive thing." The resolution of these issues would have been enchanced by your presence rather than your absence. I think you agree based on your review of the year statement not long ago.

I agree with you. But I don't care care.  But now the site is really fun to be on and if I see people being rude to new users and such I'll just whack them.

Reply #36 Top
GRR. Kwilas! Signed on my machine and didn't log out!
Reply #37 Top
Political correctness was invented by those who lack the nads to say what's really on their mind. How can anything be resolved if discussing certain subjects is taboo.
I respect outspokeness whether I agree or not. It's those fake, phoony people who really scare me...kind of like the dog who doesn't bark but sneaks up behind you and bites you in the a**!
Reply #38 Top
phoony people


???????????????????
Reply #39 Top
Edit: Phony...Sorry, my typing skills suck
Reply #40 Top
I'd ask him to call you on the telephoon to apologise...
Reply #41 Top
But now the site is really fun to be on and if I see people being rude to new users and such I'll just whack them.



Sounds about perfect!
Reply #42 Top
Politicly correctness is a bloody pain in the arse if you ask me. It's gone overboard. This is a forum. A place to share thoughts and opinions and noone should be forced to be more opolitical correct than others.
Reply #43 Top
phoony people


Reply #44 Top
I just thought I'd bump this given recent events...
Reply #45 Top
Said what you think, Make what you want, make what you said...
That is what i think Brad.
You make your job like you think and for me it's good.
Reply #46 Top
LMAO Brad.

I think your presentation sucks but I agree with what you've said.

You an i have disagreed a few times publicly and privately but I have grown to respect the company you've built.  I have never worked (if that is the right word) with better people.  The fact that the staff you have stays with you speaks volumes.  Your software has made my life better and better over the years.

I expect that we will disagree in the future.  I expect that you will express your feelings about things aggressively and will piss people off.  You will win friends and influence people one way or another.

In the end, I'd rather have you here where I can see you than pulling strings behind the scenes.

It sounds goofy saying it . . but I wish you had the chance to be here more.  I'd like to know you well enough to be your friend like I am with so many people here on WC (or dismiss you as an ass and be done with it )
Reply #47 Top
Since reading this, I have found out just who frogboy is, and WHAT he is....but I do have a question for you Frogboy.....(im no business brain...so give me some accomodation here)
this is your site, but how come you dont have the last say on certain things, like ratings and stuff you werent happy about? ....(shrugs....truly curious..) Im guessing its cause your busy....
Reply #48 Top
I just thought I'd bump this given recent events...


Yeh, just can't let it go. I realise I'm not even a customer (I haven't purchased anything from Stardock), but I want any and all info related to me deleted from WC. Should be easy for you to do, Frogboy. I'd do it myself, except I haven't found an option and I'm tired of searching. No need to answer/post anything. I won't be here to see it.
Reply #49 Top
#46 pretty much says it for me, and more. Thanks, Z.
Reply #50 Top
To: Mr.Frogboy

I Have been coming to this Website for a long time now.
I even bought a new PC so i can run Window Blinds I love this site.
I love to read and learn from every one here.. I still can't make any thing other then pics
but I have not gave up Any way ....
I Glad to see you back